What are the odds that price transfers?
- By NWfor3
- Under the Dome
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IF Price stays, what’s the breakdown (%) of carries between…
Love
Price
Williams
Young
Payne
Love
Price
Williams
Young
Payne
I understand the argument that schools like Ohio State should earn more than Rutgers. However, this approach impacts competitive balance. Among major sports leagues, the NFL has the best competitive balance. You never hear NFL owners citing cold weather, low ratings, smaller markets, or financial constraints as reasons they can't win the Super Bowl. While the NCAA is not supposed to operate as a financial enterprise, it has effectively become one, leading to the chaotic landscape we see today. I often find myself torn between supporting a free-market approach and advocating for regulations or salary caps. It’s a complex issue, but I think most would agree that reforms are needed.
I haven't heard or saw anything restricting Love. Love will be in the air as expected hurdling Miami defenders in the opener unless something bad happens.Does any of this depend on the condition of LOVE'S KNEE?
What sort of injury was it? A sprain? A ligament tear that didn't require surgery? MCL? ACL? Loose cartilage? Is it likely to recur or slow him if he takes some additional hits there? Were they hoping what he had wouldn't require surgery? And if so, has the issue been resolved?
I think this could CONCEIVABLY be a factor in what Price does. If Love is IFFY, PRICE IS IT.
Any news from anyone on any of this?
I ask as I've never seen the EXTENT of Love's injury discussed ANYWHERE.
Love is fine. No surgery. No issuesDoes any of this depend on the condition of LOVE'S KNEE?
What sort of injury was it? A sprain? A ligament tear that didn't require surgery? MCL? ACL? Loose cartilage? Is it likely to recur or slow him if he takes some additional hits there? Were they hoping what he had wouldn't require surgery? And if so, has the issue been resolved?
I think this could CONCEIVABLY be a factor in what Price does. If Love is IFFY, PRICE IS IT.
Any news from anyone on any of this?
I ask as I've never seen the EXTENT of Love's injury discussed ANYWHERE.
Does any of this depend on the condition of LOVE'S KNEE?Um, I guess he could. But given our situation on the depth chart, I think he would have already decided by now, unless someone makes him an offer he can't refuse, a 'godfather' offer, to use the NIL slang. He knows where he stands, he's 1B, to Love's RB1A. So I don't think we have to worry about that.
Hopefully would ND match any offer, or at least try to. Because it is possible to imagine Price and certainly Love being sought after.
BTW. Shame on me for giving the white guy punt returner heat.I DEFINITELY don't buy it either. Agreed probably 4.5. Understood.
I DEFINITELY don't buy it either. Agreed probably 4.5. Understood.Was Harrison successful on that kick return because of his supreme athleticism, or was it because of his skills as a returner as well as the way the play unfolded? He was billed as a sub 4.4 guy but I don’t buy that. I’d say he runs in the 4.5’s.
I don’t mean to imply that the coaches just had a mindset of “just catch the punt” like we saw during the Kelly era. I think Hurleman provided some legitimate playmaking ability as well as confidence in his ability to field punts. I think it was during the Louisville game where he broke like 4-5 tackles on a single return. There was another punt I believe in the playoffs where he had to aggressively attack the ball in order to field it and picked up 7 yards. If the ball hits the ground, maybe it rolls for 10-20 yards resulting in a loss of 17-27 yards of field position. He wasn’t by any means perfect either.
What I’m trying to say is that a superior athlete doesn’t mean a better punt returner. Good convo.
Was Harrison successful on that kick return because of his supreme athleticism, or was it because of his skills as a returner as well as the way the play unfolded? He was billed as a sub 4.4 guy but I don’t buy that. I’d say he runs in the 4.5’s.I can't argue with anything that you said there. Agreed. Securing by far most important.
Just feel like sometimes, a big uppercut to the jaw to Bama or OSU would be enough to finally take them down. Whether chase agrees or not, we are close.
When Harrison ran back that kick off vs Georgia, that shook Georgia big time. The threat of the SEC champ losing to the hated, annually overrated Notre Dame was staring right in there face after that. The game changed, they are down multiple possessions and can't play there game. Clock is against them as a primary running team.
Would be nice to add a dangerous element to both punt return and kick off is all I'm saying. I think freeman and denbrock definitely had your mindset last season for punt return.
Personally I hope that mindset changes drastically. Just don't fumble!
He's tough. Definitely underrated.Bull shit. He'd be the starter on most sec teams
Talent just ok. Maddy is horrible and doesn’t try. Citron can’t handle the ball and can’t create. Defenses have Miles number and she can’t play d. King has regressed under our staff. Our bigs are so so. Hannah only true great playerI was worried about Hidalgo who is pretty much back to normal and then Westfield is in a funk and Citroen is also in la la land.
You are not going to win Tournament Games with only one real scoring threat
they have a week of practice, almost, to get their heads back together.
The TALENT is clearly there; its just not performing
Bull shit. He'd be the starter on most sec teamsJadarian Price is not going to be the main weapon on any offense in the SEC.
He's a starting caliber player in the P4 who will take advantage of having a great offensive line. He's an above average RB2 and a nice weapon to have on the roster though. Against good to great teams, he's below average.
Look the paid board. Tons of injuries and surgeries to starters.Telx -- this from the South Bend Trib:
"Sophomore left tackle Anthonie Knapp (right ankle surgery in January) and defensive end Cole Mullins (left knee surgery last fall) will see modified activity this spring." Sounds like a cleanup surgery.
Really hope our top guys get healthy! But nice to know there is real competition to start.
I can't argue with anything that you said there. Agreed. Securing by far most important.I’d say the primary goal of the punt returner is to secure possession for the offense. Some players are less reliable when it comes to fielding punts. Greathouse returned some punts as a freshman if I’m not mistaken and possibly as a sophomore, so the coaches obviously saw the two and decided that Hurleman was a better fit. Price is a good athlete and yet I don’t believe he has ever returned punts at ND; just kickoffs. It’s not just about athleticism. Kyren Williams is far from an athletic specimen in terms of measurables yet he was good enough to be an NFL All-Pro.
A lot of punt returning has to do with the punt itself as well as the blocking. I think Hurleman did a nice job and even broke a decent amount of tackles despite lacking bonafide athleticism.
Completely agree. Playoff basketball baby.One thing I’ve noticed throughout the year in the dozen games I’ve watched, is that this team depends heavily on defense and scoring on up tempo transitions. It’s a great formula for winning, and it’s a great fit for our talent. But, it’s damn near impossible to depend on this at seasons end when tourneys begin. To win championships, you need to be able to play effective half court offense against swarming defenses that put constant pressure on the ball. There have been several periods during our dominant winning streak where teams were successful in forcing us to play half court offense against pressure defense, and we looked vulnerable. This team is used to taking uncontested threes and getting lots of layups, and my concern is whether they have adequately developed the passing and cutting and timing necessary to beat half court pressure defenses.
I’d say the primary goal of the punt returner is to secure possession for the offense. Some players are less reliable when it comes to fielding punts. Greathouse returned some punts as a freshman if I’m not mistaken and possibly as a sophomore, so the coaches obviously saw the two and decided that Hurleman was a better fit. Price is a good athlete and yet I don’t believe he has ever returned punts at ND; just kickoffs. It’s not just about athleticism. Kyren Williams is far from an athletic specimen in terms of measurables yet he was good enough to be an NFL All-Pro.Thank you for reminding me his name.
Hes reliable at fair catching the ball and going 5-10 yards, sure. Only fumbled once.
However....
A punt return for a touchdown would come in handy versus a say.....Ohio State wouldn't you agree?
It sure came in handy when we were at the big house that one time versus a top ranked wolverine team. Came in handy twice actually....
When teams like ohio state have Jeremiah Smith
Or Bama has a devante Smith....
I just feel we need to go all out and do everything we possibly can to beat them.
I bet we have a speed burner returning punts next year. No more Max.
I mean , not trying to sound mean but , let's be real. Would max return punts for...Texas? OSU? Bama? Absolutely not right? They putting a weapon returning punts.
Thanks Stu.Telx -- this from the South Bend Trib:
"Sophomore left tackle Anthonie Knapp (right ankle surgery in January) and defensive end Cole Mullins (left knee surgery last fall) will see modified activity this spring." Sounds like a cleanup surgery.
Really hope our top guys get healthy! But nice to know there is real competition to start.
One thing I’ve noticed throughout the year in the dozen games I’ve watched, is that this team depends heavily on defense and scoring on up tempo transitions. It’s a great formula for winning, and it’s a great fit for our talent. But, it’s damn near impossible to depend on this at seasons end when tourneys begin. To win championships, you need to be able to play effective half court offense against swarming defenses that put constant pressure on the ball. There have been several periods during our dominant winning streak where teams were successful in forcing us to play half court offense against pressure defense, and we looked vulnerable. This team is used to taking uncontested threes and getting lots of layups, and my concern is whether they have adequately developed the passing and cutting and timing necessary to beat half court pressure defenses.Really makes me think how much different basketball is versus football.
Jeeze, not even Vandy!? Mississippi State?!Jadarian Price is not going to be the main weapon on any offense in the SEC.
He's a starting caliber player in the P4 who will take advantage of having a great offensive line. He's an above average RB2 and a nice weapon to have on the roster though. Against good to great teams, he's below average.