Basketball MBB: Game Thread | Elon 84, Notre Dame 77 (Final)
- By Tyler James
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Thx ForrestWe got tools to answer this question. That's why F+ and other advanced ranking systems exist.
Despite the head to head loss Texas has done more vs their schedule than Georgia has vs theirs which is why F+ has them rated higher.
Texas has 11 five star players on their 85 man roster to NDs 1 five star player.
Texas is the #2 team in F+ through week 12 to NDs #8 F+ rank. Texas has the #1 defense to NDs #3 defense (but they also have a top 10 offense as well)
Am I the only person on this forum who gets really fed up with people doubling down/ arguing in the face of ever mounting evidence against their point of view? Only to return weeks later (after the evidence/data is proven correct) to continue to argue in the face of the evidence again and again and again (even with the benefit of hindsight)?
At what point does your desire for reality kick in and become more important than your ego?
You said similar in 2022LSU still has the #6 class in the country to NDs #12 class. LSU still has 2 other 5-star commits in '25 to NDs zero 5-star commits. LSU still has a 30+ year tenured head coach in Brian Kelly with a long track record of producing above the baseline that his talent suggests that he should.
If I had to make a best guess at what program has a brighter future at this point, my money is still on LSU/Brian Kelly. If we're going to evaluate these two programs into the future, its important that we use a metric that adjusts for opponent quality though (like F+) because the schedules are vastly different in terms of the level of competition.
You sound like the DNCLSU still has the #6 class in the country to NDs #12 class. LSU still has 2 other 5-star commits in '25 to NDs zero 5-star commits. LSU still has a 30+ year tenured head coach in Brian Kelly with a long track record of producing above the baseline that his talent suggests that he should.
If I had to make a best guess at what program has a brighter future at this point, my money is still on LSU/Brian Kelly. If we're going to evaluate these two programs into the future, its important that we use a metric that adjusts for opponent quality though (like F+) because the schedules are vastly different in terms of the level of competition.
We got tools to answer this question. That's why F+ and other advanced ranking systems exist.It's hard to tell with Texas because they haven't played anyone good besides Georgia
Texas has 11 five star players on their 85 man roster to NDs 1 five star player.Miami 🤣🤣🤣 Here's the teams....then includes Miami. Thanks for the laugh boss.
Texas....oh no, not mighty Texas with their big win being Vanderbilt. How can we compete with a team that struggles with Vandy. Oh noooo
Rel question, no BS. What has Texas done to be put in that category when you say we can't compete with them. Seriously.
There's no team on there that you put that we can't beat. There is no elite team this year
LolRight between Utah State and Nevada.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/fpi/_/view/resume/sort/resume.avgsosrank/dir/asc
Says the guy whose team played Indy StateGood luck against those Army Black Knights. You domers must be weally worried about this game.
226Where is the O/U for Purdue's combined margin of loss in those 5 games? Has it reached 300 points?
HeyI agree, the Boilers are pathetic. But note the 8 toughest schedules in the nation are 7 SEC teams and Purdue.
Tell us how we can't compete with mighty Miami Hurricanes 🤣🤣Delusional 1%! I'm out your a ****ing clueless child! Tell us all again about Riley's first round talent👨🦯
Delusional 1%! I'm out your a ****ing clueless child! Tell us all again about Riley's first round talent👨🦯Miami 🤣🤣🤣 Here's the teams....then includes Miami. Thanks for the laugh boss.
Texas....oh no, not mighty Texas with their big win being Vanderbilt. How can we compete with a team that struggles with Vandy. Oh noooo
Rel question, no BS. What has Texas done to be put in that category when you say we can't compete with them. Seriously.
There's no team on there that you put that we can't beat. There is no elite team this year
Hello kettle. When you go a day without mentioning Kelly’s contract value, or the NIU loss….then you can post above. Until then, get bentSame shit.
Different Day.
Apples to oranges“LSU Fans are losing their minds…”
So were Notre Dame fans in 2016 who wanted Brian Kelly fired after a 4-8 season.
And that went nowhere.
BoomI applaud your confidence in your posts, truly. There’s no need to go into what economists and data analysts do on the board, no patronizing necessary.
This idea that “more schools would bid beyond 10M if it weren’t for the economic power struggle” is just a statement that you claim, with no actual data or source. It reminds me of the person who starts a claim off with “statistics say….” and never actually claim their source. I’m well aware of revenue sharing ideas and university’s reluctancy to share with the players.
That really doesn’t have much to do with paying a high school kid $10M. You see, recruiting in college is far more unpredictable than the NFL draft. So many more players, all different levels of competition, and the most difficult aspect of recruiting as a whole: will this player continue to improve and progress? Or, are they at their peak athletically. Thats a very difficult prediction for a 17/18 year old.
For instance the class of 2020 pro style QB’s on Rivals. #1 QB was DJ Uiagalelei, only other 5 star was QB #2 Harrison Bailey, no idea who he is today. 4 star CJ Stroud after them. So only 1 of these 3 is probably worth big money right? What are the odds someone realizes it’s neither 5 star at the time? After going over the top 20 QBs from that class, maybe 2 were even decent?
This idea teams pay all this money up front before athletes prove they can even play at this competition seems misguided, and somewhat foolish.
And maybe you’ll prove me wrong and there will be a line of teams waiting to spend $10M on a recruit. I would imagine if they do it’s from the pocket of the wealthiest of donors who aren’t looking for a good business decision.
Haha. Sounds like you are the accountant for Cackle’s campaignAs for whether or not Bryce Underwood is worth it I think any business investment comes with a certain degree of risk. So Even though Underwood may not specifically return 10 million it might still be a really good business practice to risk 10 million at the chance that a prospect of his caliber fully reaches his potential and the organization strikes gold