THUNDERSTRUCK111 said:

He wants too. He didn’t qualify academically from the reports I’ve read.

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Golson5 said:

They're all underclassmen.

You're always negative. We get it. You wanted Freeman gone after his first game as a DC and you have to keep up that same energy because you want to be right

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chaseball said:

I usually will put some effort into my responses and provide all the numbers and data and evidence available. Site a bunch of sources use a bunch of advanced ranking systems cite the consolidated view of a prospect in the industry as rated by the professionals etc etc etc but I've done all that a million times and it simply doesn't resonate certainly not with you so I'm not even going to bother this time

I'll just say that I wish I could be as naive as you and find some kind of hope in this hopeless AF situation

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Golson5 said:

Williams is the most talented wr on the roster

With the 7 guys we have coming back plus transfers and the freshman, we'll be fine

Faison Greathouse Smith and maybe Thomas and Colzie coming back are 5 guys who have played in this rotation. Add some good transfers no reason to think we won't be okay

And we don't need either Richardson or Bettis to play at all next year. They will most likely redshirt. Thats for the future

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chaseball said:

Notre Dame has two players ranked inside the composite top 100 in 2025. Their competitors for national titles at the high p4 level sign about 10 of these kids and several of them are five stars

I don't understand how a program with Notre Dame's resources can fail so badly to correct the glaring obvious problem in the program which is the lack of upside in the talent

How is this not being corrected at Notre Dame? Can someone point me to how conceding your top talent in your class every year to your competitors is helping Notre Dame win national titles? Year after year after year after year after year after year of conceding nearly all of their best prospects to other programs

It makes no sense to me. What is the impediment? This question never gets asked and nobody at the program ever has to speak to it to the public in any way. I don't understand it

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BleedingBlueNGold said:

I really like this take. We have collectively as a fan base accepted mediocrity.

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sjb75 said:

How do you definitively know that will change with CJ Carr?

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chaseball said:

and supposedly turned it down.

If this is where the sport is going (8+ figure signing bonuses) what is ND doing to keep up?

No, thanks? Bryce Underwood posts he'll decline reported $10.5M NIL offer from Michigan

Michigan is reportedly trying to sway Bryce Underwood away from LSU with a $10.5M NIL offer. The top QB seems unwavering.

sports.yahoo.com

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sjb75 said:

IMO Army would not beat Oklahoma, Auburn, or Georgia Tech.

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chaseball said:

We got tools to answer this question. That's why F+ and other advanced ranking systems exist.

Despite the head to head loss Texas has done more vs their schedule than Georgia has vs theirs which is why F+ has them rated higher.

Texas has 11 five star players on their 85 man roster to NDs 1 five star player.

Texas is the #2 team in F+ through week 12 to NDs #8 F+ rank. Texas has the #1 defense to NDs #3 defense (but they also have a top 10 offense as well)

Am I the only person on this forum who gets really fed up with people doubling down/ arguing in the face of ever mounting evidence against their point of view? Only to return weeks later (after the evidence/data is proven correct) to continue to argue in the face of the evidence again and again and again (even with the benefit of hindsight)?

At what point does your desire for reality kick in and become more important than your ego?

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chaseball said:

LSU still has the #6 class in the country to NDs #12 class. LSU still has 2 other 5-star commits in '25 to NDs zero 5-star commits. LSU still has a 30+ year tenured head coach in Brian Kelly with a long track record of producing above the baseline that his talent suggests that he should.

If I had to make a best guess at what program has a brighter future at this point, my money is still on LSU/Brian Kelly. If we're going to evaluate these two programs into the future, its important that we use a metric that adjusts for opponent quality though (like F+) because the schedules are vastly different in terms of the level of competition.

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