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Reggie Bush & Heisman

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Holycrossover3 said:
I believe breaking different rules are deserving of different punishments. In the eyes of the law, is there a harsher punishment for laundering money vs stealing a candy bar? Yep.

Am I saying Reggie “stole a candy bar?” No. But I don’t believe his crime benefited him on the field, therefor, I believe the sanctions placed on USC for the benefits he received was fair, and the Heisman trophy rightly belongs to him.

Would I feel differently if he took steroids? Yes, because that benefits him on the field. But, as you know, he didn’t, so the point is moot.
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so if a investor shot someone but it had nothing to do with his business that is OK
THAT is what you are saying
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Patrirish said:
So you’re an advocate for selecting which rules you want to abide by
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I believe breaking different rules are deserving of different punishments. In the eyes of the law, is there a harsher punishment for laundering money vs stealing a candy bar? Yep.

Am I saying Reggie “stole a candy bar?” No. But I don’t believe his crime benefited him on the field, therefor, I believe the sanctions placed on USC for the benefits he received was fair, and the Heisman trophy rightly belongs to him.

Would I feel differently if he took steroids? Yes, because that benefits him on the field. But, as you know, he didn’t, so the point is moot.
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Holycrossover3 said:
Except he wasn’t taking steroids? One directly impacts on field performance, while the one he was implicated for does not. It’s simple actually.

Does it impact life? Sure, nobody says it doesn’t. Did it truly impact him on the field? I would say highly doubtful. Mom having a house doesn’t help him take a punt back. Also, there were many players receiving illegal benefits that didn’t win the Heisman trophy.
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So you’re an advocate for selecting which rules you want to abide by
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ND NFL Draft Predictions

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Golson5 said:
Where does everyone see ND players getting drafted?

Mine are

Alt - 1st round
Hart - 3rd round
Fisher - 3rd round
Estime - 4th round
JJB - 6th round
Liufau - 6th round
Bertrand - 7th round
Hartman - 7th round
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Alt top 10 (probably #7 to Tennessee)
Hart has been mentioned anywhere from late 2nd to 4th round.
Estime late 3rd or 4th.
There is always that one team, that one pick that sort of changes things. The #25 projected pick that ends up going top 10 or the top 10 pick that slides down the board.
3-4 QB's in the top 5 or 6 picks. I am not totally sold on any of them that are mentioned that high (Williams, Maye, McCarthy, Daniels). What I am watching for is the team that will pick Bo Nix (Auburn / Oregon). I think he will make a good pro.
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OT Stock Market

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d1042 said:
Yep, someone ? Dumping gold/silver to counter the demand; has to be someone with a lot of gold! Know anyone like that? DJIA. Off500 and gold dwn! Both sides making a move now.
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I was listening to the Schwab Network this morning before the market open and Google and Meta were down by the exact same percentage and it was said that algorithm were causing the shorts.
This sound wildly manipulative.
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Most interesting or unique ND football player

Drinking The Green Koolaid
theskibro said:
Mario Tonelli Not even close

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Notre Dame's Tonelli faced horrors of Bataan, refused to die

SKOKIE, Ill.On the afternoon of Nov. 27, 1937, in South Bend, Ind., Notre Dame needs a miracle, the kind found in Hollywood screenplays, not football pl...
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That was a nice story. Thanks for sharing. I love that kind of stuff. I knew about Tonelli being a POW during WWII, but I didn't know the whole back story. Tonelli's interaction during the Bataan Death March with the English speaking Japanese officer who had been educated at USC was fascinating. The Japanese were brutal toward the Americans, yet this officer put the respect he had for ND due to his attendance at USC above all that, and made sure Tonelli's ND ring was returned to him. That was an incredibly powerful statement. Due to the Japanese military's "no surrender" philosophy it is very likely the Japanese officer died later during the war, but his gesture of good will toward Tonelli is something Tonelli didn't forget.
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Reggie Bush & Heisman

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bizzybecknd said:
If you’ve ever strapped on a jock, you know the mental side is a massive component. If you were gifted a life changing sum of money, parents a new house- don’t think you would be better equipped to excel at hobbies/sports in your life? And why is that? Time freedom, less stress, access to resources?

CN you elaborate on what the USC monthly stipend was in 2005 compared to Reggie’s payment?
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Odd post.
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bizzybecknd said:
If you’ve ever strapped on a jock, you know the mental side is a massive component. If you were gifted a life changing sum of money, parents a new house- don’t think you would be better equipped to excel at hobbies/sports in your life? And why is that? Time freedom, less stress, access to resources?

CN you elaborate on what the USC monthly stipend was in 2005 compared to Reggie’s payment?
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I did play D1 football before transferring to ND actually, so I will comment on this. If anything, receiving money and benefits could allow a player to take their foot off the gas pedal and not work as hard. Players who are broke and working for the draft and life changing money have even more incentive to perform.

I cannot comment on the monthly stipend, but even at a MAC school where I played, we all received a stipend so we didn’t have to get a part time minimum wage job.
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