Coming from another left wing moron!! Go watch Clinton Cash video you horses ass and find a conscience. God forbid anyone mention anything negative ( true) about our great Dear Leader Obama .
Updated. 6 ND players arrested
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This is a social issue. Everybody wants to be a gangsta. They all watch too many movies that glorify the thug life and listen to garbage on their ipods. You see it in middle school. You see it in HS. This fantasy world transfers over to adulthood. This behavior would have happened with the ND six whether they were at ND, Bama, or FSU.
You right wing lunatics have been after Obama since the day he was elected. And what have you got? Nothing but a fistful of air. In the meantime you nominate a candidate who preaches hate, encourges violence, and lies so often even he doesn't know what's really true. And you tell me to get a conscience. The GOP has gotten largely everything it has wanted for 20 years and we now have a soceity teetering on the brink of civil war. And yeah, I know you guys will win because you have all the guns. In the meantime, I'm done with this discussion, but you can kiss my ass, you wanker.
I never said kick them out of school. But, I do want them kicked off the football team.
They are not kids. They are young men. How did it come to this: 18, 19, 20 year old men are called kids?
Guess I didn't spell out what I meant. Tommy was found guilty of assault on an officer. It was brought from a felony to a misdemeanor, but he was still guilty of it. And should have never seen the field again. Like it or not, he represents the university and the fact he is getting a 50k / year free college degree should cool his jets about it.
With Floyd and his drinking, eh, drinking is drinking. But he should have seen multiple games on the bench before coming back on the field.
Now as for this. Weed, eh it's weed. No different than the drinking. If the player has no other discipline issues give them a slap on the wrist and maybe a game or two on the bench.
As for the gun, there are several issues here. It was being illegally transported according to reports. Not to mention it is against university policy to have it on campus. So if the player was living in the dorms and keeping it there or in their vehicle. There should be discipline for that. And most likely that player is gone.
As for Butler and his assault. If he is found guilty (and there hasn't yet been a formal charge, they have until Wednesday to do so) he should be gone. Same as Tommy. If you are willing to assault an officer you shouldn't represent the university. And definitely you shouldn't receive such an awesome scholarship.
You can pull out the knee pads for me you Tool!! Oh wait you've already done that for Obama. I never said I support Trump bc in fact I'm unsure I can vote for him. I don't own a gun and never hv or fired a gun in my life. Everyone who dissent s from your poltical preferences is full of hate, racist , homophobic, sexist, and a gun nut in your pathetic self serving narrow minded sanctimonious mind. Otherwise you'd hv to deal with the facts . Those being that the Clinton's net worth went from practically zero in 2000 to aprox 200 million . How did they do that ????? Duh ..... they're both criminals who belong behind bars . Resembling the poltical version of AL Capone. One being a repeated rapist and abuser of women ( who work for him ) and the other being a high govt official who traded influence and govt policy for her financial gain in the form of 250 to 750k a pop speaking fees for her husband from foreign govts. Who is no running for president and no doubt enjoys your full support. No problem for you I'm sure . Nothing to see here ... nothing sticks... reflexively being liberal and voting for anyone with a D bf their name somehow increases your view of yourself as self - enlightened. Pathetic and intellectually dishonest would be closer to the. mark.
The conservatives have gotten what they wanted? Get the hell out of here DHK. I hope this is sarcastic, we are all aware and subject to the overreach of government and this socialist movement in America. Come on
It's all a " vast right wing conspiracy ". The 20k + emails from Saint Hillary ' s email server that we're under subpoena and hv been destroyed or lost are all irrelevant. HRC says they all pertained to personal issues like her daughter's wedding and yoga class . That works for HDK . He's all good with that. We got " nothing but air".
HDR
U lie like Lochte
At least be accurate. Republican candidate spews hate and encourages violence? Bs.
Not only did the school do nothing but remember the DA was bought off by Alabama to never go through with charges which were felonies.
As someone else mentioned I don't think kids smoking weed should be kicked off the team. I guarantee a high percentage of student athletes smoke weed, I personally know of some as well as NFL players so it must not be regulated that much considering it stays in your system for several weeks. Regardless if they want to suspend a couple for the weed I have no issue but the gun worries me more, however the problem is the fact you had 1 weapon and 3 players charged. All misdemeanor but I'm not sure how ND will deal with that.
In terms of Butler I'm curious to see how he is charged. it would always be interesting to see if anyone has video of it because I believe in innocent until proven guilty and charges like "resisting arrest" and "assault of an officer" are not cut and dry like being caught stoned or drunk. We all know police can exaggerate what happened so if there is no felony I say suspension of some games is warranted.
Just because this is Notre Dame doesn't mean kids won't make mistakes, it is a stupid assertion and all the ND haters love it when something happens to our players. The difference however is that most alumni and diehard fans will accept multiple game suspensions unlike you will see at say, Alabama! Of course when kids from other schools get suspended it is normally 1/2 a game against an FCS program.
There is also the university policy about guns on campus. If they had a gun in their car then they had the same gun on campus. Its tricky in Indiana because you can have a gun in your car (secured and out of sight) on most school properties but the university has the right to make their own rule on the matter. ND does not allow firearms on school property. It can result in dismissal but doesn't state that it will result in dismissal.
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btw
how does Bama win NC's?
1. recruiting
2. to quote a truck commercial using a Walking Dead theme: "you have one of those!"
Another former recent Bama player now in NFL tests pos!
$ and pos drug test = 'success'
how does Bama win NC's?
1. recruiting
2. to quote a truck commercial using a Walking Dead theme: "you have one of those!"
Another former recent Bama player now in NFL tests pos!
$ and pos drug test = 'success'
It's strange to me. The kids are in jail not for the gun. All 5 were in jail for MJ possession. Not for having a loaded gun.
Max is from California (hometown of MIssion Viejo). He could very well have a doctor's note that allows him to have MJ and use it. If he does, does that affect his punishment?
Don't think that would work for him. Indiana isn't a medical marijuana state. Might work say in Michigan where they have different rules. But transportation of it in non pill form I think is still a crime. Would be an interesting question to know though
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/08/21/6-notre-dame-players-arrested-1-for-tackling-policeman.html
Look we made the national news. Say goodbye to these guys, unless something comes out that changes the facts as we know it now, they done.
Look we made the national news. Say goodbye to these guys, unless something comes out that changes the facts as we know it now, they done.
Iowa, I think the point is we don't now the facts! Was the gun in a back pack without anyone other than the owner aware? Was one guy smoking and the rest going along? Etc...etc... The facts should come out pretty quickly and then we can debate what we think is the appropriate response from the school.
And I guess you think we care what a Cane fan thinks!
Of course you don't care what a Cane fan thinks - I wouldn't expect you to. By the same token, I don't care what you think other than the fact that I was curious as to what you thought about the arrests. I respect many of the comments you fans made as to not tolerating this type behavior. Regardless of what you may think, our fans felt the same way. A few years ago we had 2 players in a sexual assault case who were immediately suspended and subsequently kicked off the team and out of school and 100% of our fans were in agreement.
For the most part, ND and Penn State fans over the years felt they had no thuggy jocks who committed any wrongs that the rest of the college teams did and very arrogantly put down other teams. Many, many ND fans have posted derogatory remarks about our players on our boards. Thus, perhaps you can understand how we feel about karma visiting your team. Just remember, "this too shall pass". As a Cane fan that has been my motto for years.
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I didn't vote for either but that said, if forced to, I would take Bush over an incompetent Obama every day. I'm not a far right wacko nor a libtard like yourself. I'm an Independent who has voted for democratic Presidential candidates 4-1. Obama is still a moron. And Hillary is a criminal and pathological liar.Wow nole or scotch
expel them - kick them off/out !?????
let's wait till they are questioned and processed by authorities, both legal and university; that is unless one of you guys was either in the car or the arresting officer.
let's wait till they are questioned and processed by authorities, both legal and university; that is unless one of you guys was either in the car or the arresting officer.
And all of this political BS on a Football board is for what? Please all, take all the conservative, liberal, political crap to the correct forum. This board is and should be about ND Football.
Their girl parts hurts because someone on the internet doesn't agree with their politics.
Arguing politics on the internet is like calling your wife fat. Only stupider
Can you site a law or ordnance that updates this?
My understanding was that in Indiana just the transport of it rather 'medical' or not was illegal. If you have more correct information share it. I would honestly like to know.
http://fox59.com/2016/04/20/where-issue-of-legal-marijuana-stands-in-indiana-on-weed-day/
Nope, not currently legal in Indiana.
Nope, not currently legal in Indiana.
Wow, is this a new recruiting tactic - "Come to our school since we are lenient on illegal activities!!"
I like how we care about the student-athletes grades and actions - particularly since they are very public representatives of Our Lady's university.
ND should relocate off shore beyond the 3 mile limit: 'anything goes, n bet on it!' JMO but that would get the #1 class.
You would advocate expelling people for being in the presence of a handgun? I am not a huge gun guy but I am not sure how being willing to be around guns is grounds for expulsion.
SAL, if they knew it was unregistered and in the car, does your opinion change?
Funny to me how polarized this one is. Some want expulsion for the weed, some for the gun.
Unregistered illegal handgun. You left that part out. Why are they driving around, smoking weed and sporting an unregistered illegal handgun? Are they gangstas? If that gun was used in a crime, would that change your mind about the severity of an unregistered illegal gun in the possession of minors who, by the way, just happened to be high. Either we are going to enforce laws or we are not. You can't cherry pick.
Not really but part of that is because in Texas for example just because I don't have a license for a gun doesn't mean I can't own it, it just means there are limits to where I can carry it. I think you get arrested you deserve some punishment sure but I think that expulsion for either offense is silly. Now if that gun were being used in some way or they were waving it at people trying to intimidate them/rob them then yeah expulsion for sure.
1. I am not sure why we use the term "gangstas" here except that it is a generalization based on race generally, lots of dumb people break gun laws and do drugs but are not affiliated with gangs or gang culture.
2. Possessing weed doesn't mean you are high, and one individual having the gun doesn't mean they were "sporting it around"
3. They weren't minors
If you are under 21, you're a minor. You are right. They were smoking weed to help heal their bruises, not to get high. My mistake. Driving around, smoking weed, sporting an unregistered gun. Gangsta and wannabes never do that type of thing. What world do you live in? The movies, the music all glorify exactly that. If you are not role playing, why the hell are you driving around with an illegal unregistered gun? They are damn lucky they were pulled over in Indiana and not Illinois. They have hardcore anti-gun laws in that state.
If we are basing it on the drinking age sure under 21 is a minor. Still doesn't address the characterization issues and the reality that people owning unlicensed guns is not some unique to gun culture.
