Well. How about the very origins of this entire investigation.
OT: Please someone explain the dichotomy with these comments
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Well. How about the very origins of this entire investigation.
Again, what bombshell are you thinking is going to come out of this 'origin talk'? The facts speaks for themselves and the Trump campaign did some shady, shady stuff. Campaign staffers and affiliates had many direct contacts with the Russian government. Why is your bar set so low man?
Today's MSM coverage reminded me of Election night in 2018. Every pundit tripping over each other dicks to deliver their scorching hot take that Dems had a bad day. But after the dusts settles and they replay the key moments of the hearings the media will have to walk this back as well.
No the FBI and Fusion GPS did some very shady stuff
Even Mueller said there was no collusion by the Trump campaign but you know who tried to collude with the Russians?
Adam schiff
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...omise_him_naked_photos_of_trump_from_fsb.html
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None of the findings needed to be refuted today. Except of course if you mean the conclusion that there was no conspiracy between the Russians and the Trump administration. I'm sure the Dems were hoping that one would be refuted, but it wasn't.
While it's possible that the Dems will get routed in 2020 anyway, if they don't drop this whole fool's errand and get back to being legislators, it's a guarantee that they will.
Lol sure they did so well but lost seats in the Senate.
I think you are thinking about the 2016 election pundits tripping over themselves.
As has oft been repeated, this is the largest Democratic House gain since 1974. It's a larger gain than Democrats had in the wave electionsof both 1982 and 2006.
We can go back even further and see how unusual it is that Democrats picked up this many seats. If you go back all the way to first election of the post-World War II era (1946), there have only been three elections in which Democrats net gained more seats than they did in 2018. Put another way, this was the fourth best performance for Democrats in the 37 general House elections since President Donald Trump was born.
And now you have the squad and nothing getting done
The Republicans will uses them for their gains
And all they've managed to accomplish is a futile attempt to get Trump out of office and a successful attempt to not fix the immigration debacle. And make no mistake, they do NOT want to fix the immigration problem.
I don’t know how it was ever even a question it was biased. You think he just conveniently ran into 14 other Democrat Trump haters and no Republicans? I mean how stupid does he think we are, You’re going to tell me there wasn’t one Republican out there qualified for the job? Him pretending like there was no bias, and the Republicans constantly calling him out on it during the testimony just made him look like a bumbling fool.
This whole situation has made Democrats look even stupider than they already looked, and that’s with the “radical” crazed left being the face of their party.
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Not at all, Mueller was charged with finding out if Trump conspired and/or coordinated with the Russians and Mueller decisively concluded that neither Trump nor any other American conspired and/or coordinated with the Russians.
You just don’t like Mueller’s committees’ findings.
You wanted Mueller to find that Trump conspired and/or coordinated with the Russians. Now you’re sadly disappointed and deflated and like a loon, still insisting that Trump conspired and/or coordinated with the Russians.
Not true, this wasn’t an investigation seeking the truth, this was a fabricated investigation intended to find a crime where no crime existed.
You don’t like the fact that a large team of anti-Trump attorneys couldn’t find one iota of evidence that Trump conspired and/or coordinated with the Russians.
You failed to acknowledge that that same team tried to coerce witnesses and encourage them to change their testimony.
Evidently you didn’t watch or listen to the entire proceedings today.
Yes people lied, but not about Trump conspiring and/or coordinating with the Russians.
And what you seem oblivious to is the following, those Trump supporters who lied were charged, tried, convicted and sent to prison, but not one anti-Trump witness who lied was charged with the same offense, clearly illustrating the inherent bias in the committee
Are you kidding me ?
You must watch CNN where they’d never report that information.
Do your own research with contemporaneous sources and you’ll see where the texts were mysteriously lost and the phone’s reprogrammed such that the texts couldn’t be retrieved.
FBI agents/executives were corrupt and essentially attempted to prevent Trump from becoming President and then attempted a palace coup once he was elected.
You just had the Mueller report declare that Trump did not conspire and/or coordinate with the Russians, now let’s see what the a Inspector General finds out about the FBI conspiracy and/or coordinated attack against Trump.
Actually, you didn't characterize the conclusion correctly. The conclusion was that there was "no evidence" of conspiracy, which is quite different. In fact, Eric Swallwell did a very good job of explaining the problems Mueller had in gathering evidence: wholesale lying by witnesses, destruction of data, encryption, and certain witnesses being subject to attorney/client privilege. The report event said that had the investigation been granted greater cooperation and access, a different conclusion may well have been drawn.
Well this is weird...
2006 Senate passes Bi-Partisan Immigration Reform bill House Republicans block it.
2013/2014 Senate passes BiPartisan immigration bill House Republicans block it
The amount of powerful people with unlimited funds that want this guy dead has to be staggering Trump, Clinton, multiple Intelligence agencies, the Russian Mob and God knows how many billionaires, but still no prayers from LA
Democrats are Badly behaved, Desperate children who need to go in the corner for time out
An embarrassment who need to be terminated as a political option
Muller ruined his reputation and was a bumbling fool who did not know his facts from his own report
What a s— show.
If republicans don’t dominate the next election God help this country cause it would show stupidity beyond belief. As an independent, there is only one option now
The best Dem candidate is WILLIAMSON
The rest all are socialist morons
Here is your answer Quest- Trump is transparent. If he later finds information that questions or disproves his prior statement, here owns up and tells the truth
Name one Dem who has done that?
Pocahontas on her heritage?
Any Dem on their 2 year bs witch hunt that Mueller proved that the Dems were wrong?
Dems lie twist cheat. They have become scum
Everything was refuted because it was clearly shown to be a biased investigation. There is absolutely nothing you can stand on in the report even if true because of the complete disgrace they took during the investigation.
Remember, there was no cross examination, no countering to refute claims. This was a one off opinionated report, and guess what, yesterday it clearly came out how biased the investigation was and how you can't take any of it seriously, even the Russians impacting our election. The fact he didn't even investigate how it happened is such a joke.
They've been scum a long time. They've just managed to bestow scum thinking upon the likes of Quest, Benko, etc...
The youth of today never had a chance.
Their idiot parents have changed from patriotic, respectful, full of class...with a we, us and our mindset...
they changed 180 degrees to the purple hair wearing, me myself and I attitude, worry about all nationalities before Americans, whoever's fault it is it's not my little Johnny's fault, bearing nary an ounce of respect for anyone or anything other than their own weird dyed hair and tee ball trophy hugging self.... ****ing cretins..the whole mother ****ing lot of them.
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Do you mean that if Peter Strzok’s phone hadn’t been wiped clean of thousands of texts that a different conclusion would have been reached ?
This was a corrupt investigation from the get go.
The entire investigating team was anti-Trump, that’s undeniable!
Those anti-Trump witnesses who lied were never prosecuted, why was that.
What “access” was Mueller denied ?
“Cooperation” from whom ? Be specific.
What will you say if the IG discovers a concerted effort to nullify Trump by roques within the FBI, including a fabricated FISA court application ?
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My response was to TWalsh, who has proven to be an adult in these discussions. Fulminate to those who take you seriously.
As this is a public forum hiding your real identities, I fully understand how you could profess your unvarnished loyalty, love for a man like Donald Trump. Republicans love for Donald Trump reminds me of the quote in the movie Usual Suspects. The greatest trick the devil ever pulled off was convincing the world he never existed! Trump and Republicans trying to make Obama illegitimate by birthersism and other techniques was the start of extreme gutter politics. Just when you thought politics couldn't get any worse that same man accepted and encouraged a foreign adversary help to the highest office of the land. ALL Americans should not feel comfortable with this current political culture. If you're not, ask yourself why? There used to be a majority of people who cared about doing things the right way. Now a segment shrugs off a man who is called president but has more failed businesses than successful. A man who has shady finances and refuses to be transparent about them. A man who has at least 5 kids by 3 different woman. A man who when confronted with something he doesn't like calls them fake instead of substantive replies. Republicans will look back and wish they stood up to the man that forever ruined their once proud party.
When you've got no response...
It's cool story.
Cool story is the new racist battle cry.
When in doubt say racist or cool story bro
As opposed to such virtuous men like Clinton, JFK, FDR, Weiner, Harvey Weinstein, Johnson, Hart, your favorite Barney Frank, John Edwards.......to name just a few.
That was short term fix bill, and it did eventually pass. It was not even remotely a solution to the problem.
Never forget when Trump praised the founding fathers for overtaking the British airports during the revolutionary war........ oh and when he said "take the guns first, due process second."
Blind followers only hear what they want to hear.
Blind followers only hear what they want to hear.
The irony of Bill Clinton is in response conservative evangelicals defined the idea that there was a minimum moral standard for an individual to be considered president. Bill Clinton did go through an impeachment process for lying about getting a blowjob. Yet now the same evangelicals who made this solemn oath who also sabotaged the campaigns of Dole, McCain, and Romney, embrace a man who has made womanizing his passion in life. Never mind that he attempted to build an empire on gambling.
Just as The Tea Party movement was never about deficit reduction I make the same statement about evangelicals. Morality was never really that important. All that stuff spouted in church was all fake. When someone tries to give me that old time religion I just start laughing at them.
On the record I'm a Buckley Republican leaning towards libertarian.
Your point is accurate. But in this country, the interpretation, right or wrong, is that if there's no evidence that it did happen, then it effectively didn't. So it would be in the Dems best interests to accept that and move on. At this point everyone on both sides is aware that the main objective of the Nadler and Shiff ilk is to keep this story in the news cycle. I'm sure that, with Mueller having come and gone, they will come up with another way of doing so. But they do that at their own peril, or more importantly at the peril of Dem colleagues who do not reside in safe loony left states like they do.
It cannot be easy to be a Democrat from Ohio or Nebraska or Idaho, when your party has been hijacked by left leaning members from far left states who are pushing agendas or issues (open borders, slavery reparations, abortion on demand up to delivery, elimination of private health insurance, green new deal, etc.) that you know are overwhelmingly unpopular everywhere but in those far left states. What the hell do you tell people when you go back home?
I can live with that......everyone knows he isn’t Saint Trump....but fake virtues of Democrats is laughable. He’s not my President but love how he exposes their hypocrisy!
