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Who starts at QB next year?

But you have used injuries as an excuse time after time. Would you rather have someone behind center who can win games or keep a year of eligibility and then makes excuses.[/QU



hey s head injuries are a reason in sports -- they are excuses for those like you who have never laced em up .

Kelly himself stated two weeks ago that envelope has been pushed as far as it can go re injuries

internet trolls don't see injuries as a reason for losing a game they prefer to blame the coach
 
Cook is still day to day. Probably won't get much better until the offseason. He returned to practice yesterday like he has the last few weeks. They need to limit his time leading up to Clemson.

It's been great seeing Whitfield finally start making plays. He has crazy speed (elite track guy), but hadn't shown much on the football field. He returned a kickoff for a TD in the BCS title game and we had high hopes at that point, but didn't really do much last year. Very pleased with his performance last week and he and Everett really seem to work well together.
That explains the speed I saw. He looks like he runs angry too....
I have no idea how Cook is doing what he's doing......
 
Give me an injury that has made this season like last year? Zaire...You already have posted that he will never get his starting job back. Folston...Prosise is better. Smythe...Come on. Who else clown? Injuries have nothing to do with this season. Your excuses are no longer valid.
 
IMO the return of Fuller and CJ in 2016 is critical to the teams offensive game plan. Without CJ the run game losses the best back an ND uniform since Reggie Brooks. I compare the 2 because when Reggie became a RB I thought it was going to be a loooong year. He and Bettis proved to bet the best combo ever at ND . CJ runs in the worst offensive run system I have ever seen and he still averages 8 yards per carry. I reall belive that CJ and MZ would have been unstoppable for Clemson. They were able to key on CJ . If CJ goes pro Folston returning is a solid but not an explosive back like CJ. Adams has great flashes and Williams might be terrific . MZ gives that backfield the other runner. Kizer does not possess those skills. Fuller is the best deep threat I have ever seen at ND. Both QBs can make that deep throw. BK made a rediculous statement at the post game presser. St. Brown the super Frosh blocked the punt and BK praised him that he could start for most power 5 teams but he can't take Fuller off the field. Ok but what about Brown? This guy cannot get some reps / experience ? I don't get it ? They only use 2 WR's ? My point is Kizer ha a great cast . Next year , No Fuller, Brown at WR and it becomes a huge ?? Will Kizer be the same ? The 2 QB system will not work. The system will decide.
 
IMO the return of Fuller and CJ in 2016 is critical to the teams offensive game plan. Without CJ the run game losses the best back an ND uniform since Reggie Brooks. I compare the 2 because when Reggie became a RB I thought it was going to be a loooong year. He and Bettis proved to bet the best combo ever at ND . CJ runs in the worst offensive run system I have ever seen and he still averages 8 yards per carry. I reall belive that CJ and MZ would have been unstoppable for Clemson. They were able to key on CJ . If CJ goes pro Folston returning is a solid but not an explosive back like CJ. Adams has great flashes and Williams might be terrific . MZ gives that backfield the other runner. Kizer does not possess those skills. Fuller is the best deep threat I have ever seen at ND. Both QBs can make that deep throw. BK made a rediculous statement at the post game presser. St. Brown the super Frosh blocked the punt and BK praised him that he could start for most power 5 teams but he can't take Fuller off the field. Ok but what about Brown? This guy cannot get some reps / experience ? I don't get it ? They only use 2 WR's ? My point is Kizer ha a great cast . Next year , No Fuller, Brown at WR and it becomes a huge ?? Will Kizer be the same ? The 2 QB system will not work. The system will decide.


You made a lot of good points, but what's with calling our offense the worst offensive system ever? Is it because you want to see a FB and TE every snap?

Clemson didn't simply key on CJ -- because you can't! You don't just simply run to the running back and, bam, the play is shut down. The offensive line didn't play that well against Clemson. Plus, Clemson is pretty good.
 
That explains the speed I saw. He looks like he runs angry too....
I have no idea how Cook is doing what he's doing......
Cook is just a freak. That's the only explanation I have. I believe he is the best RB we've ever had.
 
Cook is just a freak. That's the only explanation I have. I believe he is the best RB we've ever had.
Every time he leaves the field I think he's done and here he comes again.....
I don't know how he is doing it.... He's a force and getting better..... man among boys.... tomorrow's game will be fun. I am real curious to see how you handle tech. They are due for something...not a W, but better play...
 
Honestly I dont think that Kelly ever had much intention to have Kizer as a starter at Notre Dame. He had Zaire as a junior with 3 years of eligibility left. And signed a stud freshman in Wimbush. Kizer was high stakes quality back up policy. But Kizer has a done a great job of preparing for the big moment. Now Kelly has done something that he has been really good at in recent
. He found a diamond in the rough like he did with Tyler Eifert, Will Fuller, and CJ Procise. Kizer has way too much upside with size, athleticism, arm strength, poise, and intangibles to keep him off the field. The things he needs to work on can be fixed with film study and more practice reps. Zaire is great, but Kizer's stature, skill, and confidence is going to be hard to beat out.
 
You made a lot of good points, but what's with calling our offense the worst offensive system ever? Is it because you want to see a FB and TE every snap?

Clemson didn't simply key on CJ -- because you can't! You don't just simply run to the running back and, bam, the play is shut down. The offensive line didn't play that well against Clemson. Plus, Clemson is pretty good.

I think the rain had a lot to do with it, too. Clemson stacked the box and forced us to throw. But that wasn't easy in the weather conditions. We had about 7-8 dropped passes in that game, as well as 3 fumbles lost. However Clemson, to their credit, seemed to deal with the bad conditions a little better than we did.
 
You made a lot of good points, but what's with calling our offense the worst offensive system ever? Is it because you want to see a FB and TE every snap?

Clemson didn't simply key on CJ -- because you can't! You don't just simply run to the running back and, bam, the play is shut down. The offensive line didn't play that well against Clemson. Plus, Clemson is pretty good.
The don't like to running game system right now. Never have but with MZ it had a better dual threat . Kizer is a threat to run but not the game breaker like MZ. I like Kizer size and pocket presence but if you do not have those weapons to throw to it might be a moot point . We Have a a tone of Wr's coming back but no experience at all.
 
Who knows, but I think some are writing off Zaire way to soon. Remember, he beat out Kizer for the starting job in fall camp for a reason. The coaches saw something. Between the two of them, I think most DC's would tell you that Zaire is tougher for them to prepare for because he is just as good a passer (or better), but a significantly better playmaker with his legs. He is like having another running back in the backfield. Wimbush may end up being the most talented of all three. Let's enjoy this year, but yes, it will be the question in spring camp. I just am rooting for Zaire to make a full recovery so he has a fair shot to win the job back. Also, as we've seen in the past, who starts in the 1st game may not necessarily be the guy who gets the most snaps or finishes the season. Kelly will no hesitate to play the best player.
 
The don't like to running game system right now. Never have but with MZ it had a better dual threat . Kizer is a threat to run but not the game breaker like MZ. I like Kizer size and pocket presence but if you do not have those weapons to throw to it might be a moot point . We Have a a tone of Wr's coming back but no experience at all.

Not being a jerk, but I'm not following you. How does not having Zaire in, and no experience coming back (something I don't agree with if Fuller stays) make our offense the worst system ever?

What is it about the way ND lines up and calls plays that makes it so bad?
 
Kelly has won 11 games 12 games twice and 11-12 games this yr because he has the worst offensive system EVER -- why would one engage an individual who expresses such dribble .
 
Kelly has won 11 games 12 games twice and 11-12 games this yr because he has the worst offensive system EVER -- why would one engage an individual who expresses such dribble .
I hope you realize that this board is better off without you. That's why your prior handles have been banned.
 
re Kelly's offense system --

Kizer ( red shirt frosh four star recruit) 9 yds per attempt 156 QB rating 4 INT's
Kyle Allen ( 5 star second yr starter ) - 7 yds per attempt 136 QB rating 6 INT's

Yesterday Tex A + M scored 3 pts vs a team that had given up 38 to Florida and 37 to Memphis

CVGR -- Am I upsetting you ? Captain of the internet basement rangers --cvgr how is purse ?

Bueller - Bueller
 
re Kelly's offense system --

Kizer ( red shirt frosh four star recruit) 9 yds per attempt 156 QB rating 4 INT's
Kyle Allen ( 5 star second yr starter ) - 7 yds per attempt 136 QB rating 6 INT's

Yesterday Tex A + M scored 3 pts vs a team that had given up 38 to Florida and 37 to Memphis

CVGR -- Am I upsetting you ? Captain of the internet basement rangers --cvgr how is purse ?

Bueller - Bueller

Not at all.....you are free entertainment. I hope you understand that you are regularly laughed at. Your lack of intelligence is typically surpassed by your vulgarity. I expect this handle to follow your others.....sooner or later.....
 
Lol this is laughably and misleading first of all malik throws the ball alot better than kizer.
Malik is a better player the Kizer. All the way around

Flat out wrong here. Even in spring ball and camp every single reporter was saying kizer was significantly more accurate than Malik. Pete Sampson said you could count the throws kizer missed all camp on one hand. So much so that some even wondered if there should be an open competition for who was the starter.

Kelly refused (probably rightly so) to make it a competition reiterating that Malik was the starter.
 
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