Where will the committee rank OSU?
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Maybe where they are seeded, too early for that. But no way they drop that far in overall ranking
I think OSU drops 6 spots to 8. That was a bad loss at home to a 5 loss team.
5-7will be ND, Big runner up, Texas if they lose, plus I think they will look to not match conf teams together OSU vs Tenn seems very logical
Interesting between Indiana with 1 loss (to Ohio State) vs, Ohio State with 2 losses.
Will also be interesting if a 3 loss team gets into playoff, IMO, would just show the system for playoff selections is wrongl reason enough to stop the playoff system.
Will also be interesting if a 3 loss team gets into playoff, IMO, would just show the system for playoff selections is wrongl reason enough to stop the playoff system.
Possibly. Likewise, if Clemson wins championship game they will be an automatic selection despite 3 losses. Just a joke to me.
Depending on the chosen teams, conferences will adjust future schedules to be sure their teams get results trying to guarantee fewer losses to increase selections. The playoff scheme will be even more of a joke.
Clemson has lost to both Georgia and South Carolina. Dabo could indeed still make the playoff.
No way, they lost at home as a 21 point favorite.
They’ll be in the 8 to 10 range this week, I’ll say 8 as of now. If both PSU and Oregon win next week, they’ll be closer to 10.
The conf champ at large bid is a complete joke. If I was ND as an independent I’d schedule a cakewalk, or join a conference ( Acc). Jmo.
A 3 +loss team getting in and a 1 loss team sitting home is ridiculous.
The conference bias is so blatant. Alabama , ole miss , lose but only fall 1-2 spots is absurd. I don’t care how talented they are. A loss is a loss.
A 3 +loss team getting in and a 1 loss team sitting home is ridiculous.
The conference bias is so blatant. Alabama , ole miss , lose but only fall 1-2 spots is absurd. I don’t care how talented they are. A loss is a loss.
This thing is still jacked up. You have a Clemson team that lost and is still in their conference title game with 3 losses overall. Are they in win or lose with 3 losses because they made it to the title game? The SEC is even more muddled. This playoff set up is beginning to look like the beauty contest it was supposed to fix.
Agree. Teams with three losses should not be playing for championships.
If P5 conferences benefit from the selection process, then they should also pay for conference results. A 2 loss Miami should be out since a 3 loss Clemson is playing a 1 loss SMU in the ACC title game.
Well, thankfully people like you have no say in it, you represent the wild, sweaty, heaving mob, and I'll take a corrupt committee over the likes of the mob any day of the week. So Clemson is in if they beat SMU. It's not controversial. But they might only be the 12th seed.
What do you have against "wild, sweaty, heaving mobs?"
We lost at home as a 28 point favorite
Osu has 2 top 10 wins this year
What has Tenn, Boise, SMU, Indiana done to be ranked ahead of them? It's just recency bias. If you look at their body of work they should be above all those teams
You know, when you put it that way.... Maybe we ought to do things differently. Let's not abandon the playoff altogether, not yet at least. And even though the format is totally set, flawed but very serviceable, and it appears as if the hated and venal committed has been fairly aboveboard in what the criteria would and will be, and so you don't have to fret over the smoke filled rooms quite as much if you're inclined to that sort of thing. But now I'm thinking we should just scrap the playoff format so laboriously devised, and just turn it over to the mob, a la the Roman colosseum. Thumbs up Thumbs down style. For starters, for example, Clemson is OUT. You went 9-3, and you don't deserve to play for the championship. And it's that simple, you are out, son! No more explanation required, indeed no more explanation really even possible, it's just a personal conviction, there doesn't need to be anything behind it. There never is anyway so let's cut the pretense. Because the mob has spoken, and their word is now the law, at least when it comes to this bit of bread and circuses. We'll still keep the regular law for more important matters. And you can have your CCG but you're not in the playoff. Because three loss teams are simply not worthy of being crowned a champion, at so of course you're going to be denied the opportunity, and it doesn't matter about the format. It is superseded!
And we'll just go down the line. From team to team. You could even have, whatever the Roman equivalent, tribunes I think they were called, and they make the case yay or nay, Paul Finebaum maybe, on some podcast that you can watch and vote on your phone, for which a coach has to humbly submit themselves before, and in the comments everyone gets to vomit out their little personal, primitive sentiments and opinions of why this team sucks and don't deserve something. Much like in this very thread, where Clemson at 9-3 ipso facto is unworthy, and should by rights be denied any opportunity at a title, and presumably any formula that includes that possibility is illegitimate. And so the mob takes over the deliberations, and then you add 'em all up.
We're headed for a hunger games society anyway, so let's get it started!
I see your point, I just disagree with it that’s all. There is ALWAYS recency bias in the CFB polls. I’ve observed it my entire life.
I remain convinced that the main goal is to get the top 10 in. That can be accurate enough. The last 4 is where the decisive margin of error will happen.
So it's for me kinda moot if Ohio State or Notre Dame are ranked within 1-3 positions of a norm. At least in terms of getting into the playoffs. I get rank impacts seeding, byes, and hosting.
No question Ohio State gets in, as they have 2 so called quality loses by a combined 4 points. The real trick is if teams like Alabama get in. With 3 losses. On the said last 4 margin.
Plus this is where the eye test is applied as well. Me? Ohio State and Alabama are still good and deserving teams who I think would be in a pack of 7 that can win it all. Obviously including ND in this pack.
If I have to pick a slight favorite, it's Oregon, but they can be beaten too.
So it's for me kinda moot if Ohio State or Notre Dame are ranked within 1-3 positions of a norm. At least in terms of getting into the playoffs. I get rank impacts seeding, byes, and hosting.
No question Ohio State gets in, as they have 2 so called quality loses by a combined 4 points. The real trick is if teams like Alabama get in. With 3 losses. On the said last 4 margin.
Plus this is where the eye test is applied as well. Me? Ohio State and Alabama are still good and deserving teams who I think would be in a pack of 7 that can win it all. Obviously including ND in this pack.
If I have to pick a slight favorite, it's Oregon, but they can be beaten too.
This was a long post, so I may not have understood it perfectly, but......I think you've described the reality of the playoffs as is already!
Disagree. Now you’re telling people to schedule softly so you can finish with two losses and automatically get in over a three loss team. I don’t think a team with less losses should automatically be seeded ahead of a team with an additional loss.
Yes, and ND dropped in the polls significantly after that loss. If the teams ahead of ND would have key winning, ND would not have been able to climb in the polls.
Unfortunately for OSU their loss came late in the season, when as a team they should be playing their best ball. They also have no games left to make up ground.
Moral of the story, If they wanted to keep a high ranking don't lose the last game of the season to an unranked opponent at home
Michigan is better than NIU. And osu has 2 top 9 wins. They will drop but not significantly. No lower than 9 at the lowest
I didn't realize you are part of the team. Are you a student-athlete on the team, a coach, analyst, part of the staff? 😂
I agree. Ohio State is still a good team. I get the impression they will be playoff ready…could get hit. Loaded with talent.
Surprisingly Day is the question mark.
Getting out of the CCG actually benefits them. Free week off, healed up and still in.
I deliberately avoid we because I actually don’t want to make it seem I’m a part of the team. I think alumni can, but I’m just a subway.
I say we for Croatia or Team USA in soccer. Because I am these. Nevertheless, I root as hard for ND as anybody.
The Fighting Irish are a big part of my culture.
Yeah, tell me about it. We still have a committee, and they definitely do decide who makes the field, much to the chagrin of fans, ie 'the mob'. I was just saying why don't we just hand it over to the fans altogether, and let them decide. That's all we do is talk about it for three months, which helps keep interest and engagement in the sport at all time highs! So let the fans flat out decide and we'll just get rid of the committee. We got the technology to make it happen....
I'm not telling anyone anything. I'm saying that's if you have lost three games, you are not worthy of playing for a championship.
That’s semantic BS. If you’re saying a three loss team isn’t worthy, then teams are going to schedule lightly just to avoid a third loss. You don’t have to “tell” them anything.
So a two loss group of 5 should get in over a three loss power 4 school just because the P4 school has three losses? That’s absurd.
That's not true. Teams other than ND are in conferences and have most of their schedules built in.
You want to let a bunch of multi-loss teams play for championships? Hasn't the season been cheapened enough?
I want the 5 automatic qualifiers and 7 best at large teams to make the playoffs because those are the rules. You’re basically saying that a three loss team can’t possibly be as deserving as a two loss team. I categorically reject that.
It depends on the overall resume strength.
