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Was Kelly sent to anger management?

Yeah Ara, I had a fiery high school coach in my freshman year of high school. He called one of the o-linemen a pu$$y in practice and told him to line up to block and he lined up across from him (coach had no pads mind you). He flattened the lineman and the kid just sat there and cried. I felt bad for the kid but I also stepped up my practice intensity.
 
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perseverare said:
Ara, umm your coach behaved very inappropriately! The Head Coach has to keep his head when all about him are losting theirs.

Spiting at players? Not a cause for anger management, but more likely, therapy would have been the call!
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Perse, he wasn't saying the coach spit on players; he was saying that he yelled at his players and spittle came out hitting the player he was yelling at.
 
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deadirishpoet said:
It's the perception added with past behaviors on nationwide TV.

As I've said I spent half m life in the USMC so in the face is nothing new, but the USMC isn't a highly influential Catholic University. At some point this could be used against ND with a recruit that is wavering on where to go.
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Last I checked, Notre Dame doesn't really care what others perceive the
University to be. They march to the beat of their own drum.

Maniacal sideline behavior sure hasn't slowed down Saban's ability to recruit.
 
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Beach. ND fans take it personally because every single negative thing is over amplified by the media as it relates to ND. Look at this incident. If Saban or Meyer or Harbaugh did the same thing, ESPN/media would either gloss it over or praise them for controlling the sideline. That this five second incident gets as much coverage as the Sark/USC dumpster fire just illustrates the negative bias. Whether or not Kelly is going to anger management is not my point, That it was probably the lead story on PTI is my point.
DIP, as I Said, I stopped watching PTI after the Ty WILLIGHAM debacle. Kornheiser/Wilbon are one in the same to me. Liberal Dbag Washington Post writers who buried ND during the Ty golfing era of ND football.
Google it. Read the shit they were saying. I have more respect for Mark ******* May.
 
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irish jack said:
Who should be ashamed are the USC boosters, fans, alumni, and student body who accept the idea of Hollywood USC and who exactly is strolling their sideline. This is who you are all accepting as the face of USC football just for the sake of Ws. I personally have complete apathy for Haden. No bad talk from me.
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Was this supposed to posted in this thread?
 
deadirishpoet said:
Get in his face is one thing. Grabbing him by the shirt inches from his throat in the manor he did is another, and add what perceptions are out there from past incidents could add up to misconceptions

Don't get me wrong being a Marine half my life I embrace unvarnished approaches and attitudes, but this is playing out on live TV on several occasions
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My son's a Marine. He said one of the things he's learned is that it really doesn't matter what kind of BS you're confronted with, you're expected to keep your head and focus on the task at hand - even when it looks like you're going to fail. He seems to think that's kind of the point of all the BS during training. You don't always have time to stew or pout - you've got to cut through the BS and stay focused.

I wasn't real impressed seeing Kelly grab Grimes the way he did, but I get it. Frankly, its the type of thing I might do (and later regret). But afterward, it seemed like Kelly was stuck in that moment - explaining himself to the coach next to him as the game was going on. At least for a few minutes, it looked like Kelly lost his focus. You have to wonder whether it distracted other coaches for a while too, and it was during a critical point in the game.

Its one thing to physically back a coach away from a ref in order to avoid a penalty. Its another thing to lose your temper and your focus. I don't know how you can do that and expect your team to remain disciplined.

I actually like Kelly. But he needs to do better with this sort of BS.
 
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IRISHJD98 said:
My son's a Marine. He said one of the things he's learned is that it really doesn't matter what kind of BS you're confronted with, you're expected to keep your head and focus on the task at hand - even when it looks like you're going to fail. He seems to think that's kind of the point of all the BS during training. You don't always have time to stew or pout - you've got to cut through the BS and stay focused.

I wasn't real impressed seeing Kelly grab Grimes the way he did, but I get it. Frankly, its the type of thing I might do (and later regret). But afterward, it seemed like Kelly was stuck in that moment - explaining himself to the coach next to him as the game was going on. At least for a few minutes, it looked like Kelly lost his focus. You have to wonder whether it distracted other coaches for a while too, and it was during a critical point in the game.

Its one thing to physically back a coach away from a ref in order to avoid a penalty. Its another thing to lose your temper and your focus. I don't know how you can do that and expect your team to remain disciplined.

I actually like Kelly. But he needs to do better with this sort of BS.
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Next time you see your son please thank him for his service for me. Please remind him how many of us are sincerely grateful.
 
Two absolute liberal, pansy, dumbasses. God forbid a coach gives his assistant a shove back, when he is about to cost the team a 15 yard penalty in a huge game.
 
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beachcardinal said:
It's funny how people take this as an attack. I heard on PTI and wasn't sure if it was true so I checked here. Nothing wrong with it if he did, he is a fine coach and we all have issue to deal with. As to your attacks on Pat and Sark, that is a different issue. Sark has a problem that keep him from being a leader of young men: booze. He is also a sleaze bag who tires to hit on young girls. Implying that sort of thing to Pat is simply a lie from a lazy or pathetic poster. Pat is a very good, very devout man, who isn't very good at his job. You need to think before you react. Even on a message board there are some standards. It is a bit pathetic for you to mindlessly lash out at a simple fact check. I implied nothing bad about Kelly. You should be ashamed of your response.
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beach, I personally think you are a great poster. I would rather read your posters then 75% of the so called Irish fans on this site.
 
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Ara64 said:
It all depends on which side of the Brian Kelly line the person stands IG. My high school coach was physical and a spitter. He gave me a shower one night when I came to the sideline after missing a big block that cost our team a touchdown. I think people forget that football is a very violent/heat filled game. Coach Kelly saw a knucklehead grad assistant arguing with a zebra. He reacted in the heat of the game. ND could not afford another 15 yard penalty at that moment in the game. I think this team reflects Coach Kelly's passion for victory. It brought them off the floor against Virginia, almost snatched a victory away from Clemson, and again demonstrated that refuse to loss attitude against Temple. I would rather have a passionate coach any day over a wallflower who shows no passion.
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Yep, I guarantee Ty Willingham would have never been in a situation like this or Weis for that matter.
 
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Irish Grandeur said:
Yeah Ara, I had a fiery high school coach in my freshman year of high school. He called one of the o-linemen a pu$$y in practice and told him to line up to block and he lined up across from him (coach had no pads mind you). He flattened the lineman and the kid just sat there and cried. I felt bad for the kid but I also stepped up my practice intensity.
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I look at it from the perspective that a lot was learned. The coach and the kid who cried learned a lot that day about the kid that cried.
 
South Bender said:
Last I checked, Notre Dame doesn't really care what others perceive the
University to be. They march to the beat of their own drum.

Maniacal sideline behavior sure hasn't slowed down Saban's ability to recruit.
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Where did you check that out at?
 
I heard some influential alum were pretty upset and embarrassed by the last outburst. Perhaps it's time for a refresher course for Kelly. I love Kelly as a coach, but this is his Achilles heel. It could possibly cost him his job if he doesn't get it under control. If he ever pushes a player like that he's gone period.
 
I only have 2 issues with it. First, it can be used by people to negatively portray ND. Second, in today's day and age Kelly possibly sets up ND for a lawsuit. Like it or not Kelly is Grimes' boss and as a boss you can never lay your hands on your employee. I doubt Grimes would do that because if he has any hopes of coaching that would kill his chances. I'm just saying Kelly needs to think about those sorts of things.
 
IRISHJD98 said:
My son's a Marine. He said one of the things he's learned is that it really doesn't matter what kind of BS you're confronted with, you're expected to keep your head and focus on the task at hand - even when it looks like you're going to fail. He seems to think that's kind of the point of all the BS during training. You don't always have time to stew or pout - you've got to cut through the BS and stay focused.

I wasn't real impressed seeing Kelly grab Grimes the way he did, but I get it. Frankly, its the type of thing I might do (and later regret). But afterward, it seemed like Kelly was stuck in that moment - explaining himself to the coach next to him as the game was going on. At least for a few minutes, it looked like Kelly lost his focus. You have to wonder whether it distracted other coaches for a while too, and it was during a critical point in the game.

Its one thing to physically back a coach away from a ref in order to avoid a penalty. Its another thing to lose your temper and your focus. I don't know how you can do that and expect your team to remain disciplined.

I actually like Kelly. But he needs to do better with this sort of BS.
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First - God Bless Your boy Me and my families prayers will be with him. It's not an easy time to volunteer for such a duty

Second - It's always nice and welcome to greet another brother. I will always have his back no questions needed.

Third - Your point about boot camp is sooooo true. My DI was a black man, and he did not spare the rod. He would call Black ******s, Italians wops, Whites crackers, Hispanics spicks and when he found out I was Jewish well let just say hymie was my name not only in boot camp , but my MOS school as well. He broke us all down to the lowest form to build us up as a unit/team/brotherhood. That's why its called basics, because basically they are going to brake you down to build you up

I truly loved that man and next to my father w/o a doubt the most influential person in my life.

So I truly do understand when people see no issue with the sideline rant on the assistant. To me it was a common thing back in the day it was the coach and your father taking turns.

The difference to me is I'm not sure how the ND hierarchy is viewing this. Does it lose the meaning of what's being tough especially to the players who are close with that assistant.

A lot of poster might find this hard to believe but I like coach Kelly. Coach Kelly Is an outstanding administrator. Excellent recruiter, he is a fiery guy which is another thing I like There is little I do not like aside from the offensive philosophy. Even some of the head scratchers for calls isn't that big a deal to me, because I have made my share. Sure I was hoping for another coach, but ND truly could have and have done worse. With all the tit for tat regulars do you start defending a position skewing the big picture. That doesn't only go for me, but most I believe.
 
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DIP
I am not sure the military comparison to being a HC are in any remote way analogous.
And in the military a superior cannot put his hands on an EM.
 
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DIP
I am not sure the military comparison to being a HC are in any remote way analogous.
And in the military a superior cannot put his hands on an EM.
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THERE WAS NO COMPARISON.

I stated the reason why I had no problem with coach Kelly being in his face from my bring up through manhood.

And yes in the Military a superior CAN put his hands on you to teach you. I learned this first hand in SERE (Search Evasion Resistance and Escape) School.
 
deadirishpoet said:
THERE WAS NO COMPARISON.

I stated the reason why I had no problem with coach Kelly being in his face from my bring up through manhood.

And yes in the Military a superior CAN put his hands on you to teach you. I learned this first hand in SERE (Search Evasion Resistance and Escape) School.
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ok, that is inderstood. When your AI was to put his hands on you - did he ask you first? I can tell you from 1st hand experience that that was always the case in my experience. Not familiarvwith the school you mentioned; might be same but different terminology.

But in terms of discipline: you are saying that AI's could handle you ?
 
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ok, that is inderstood. When your AI was to put his hands on you - did he ask you first? I can tell you from 1st hand experience that that was always the case in my experience.
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That would be DI and NO he did not. He was the DI I was the recruit. What branch were you in were the DI must ask you first. That is comical!!!
 
actually DIP, I never left US; but thank my brother, he made the ultimate sacrifice.
I know you know of this kind of loss.
 
deadirishpoet said:
First - God Bless Your boy Me and my families prayers will be with him. It's not an easy time to volunteer for such a duty

Second - It's always nice and welcome to greet another brother. I will always have his back no questions needed.

Third - Your point about boot camp is sooooo true. My DI was a black and he did not spare the rod. He would call Black ******s, Italians wops, Whites crackers, Hispanics spicks and when he found out I was Jewish well let just say hymie was my name not only in boot camp , but my MOS school as well. He broke us all down to the lowest form to build us up as a unit/team/brotherhood. That's why its called basics, because basically they are going to brake you down to build you up

I truly loved that man and next to my father w/o a doubt the most influential person in my life.

So I truly do understand when people see no issue with the sideline rant on the assistant. To me it was a common thing back in the day it was the coach and your father taking turns.

The difference to me is I'm not sure how the ND hierarchy is viewing this. Does it lose the meaning of what's being tough especially to the players who are close with that assistant.

A lot of poster might find this hard to believe but I like coach Kelly. Coach Kelly Is an outstanding administrator. Excellent recruiter, he is a fiery guy which is another thing I like There is little I do not like aside from the offensive philosophy. Even some of the head scratchers for calls isn't that big a deal to me, because I have made my share. Sure I was hoping for another coach, but ND truly could have and have done worse. With all the tit for tat regulars do you start defending a position skewing the big picture. That doesn't only go for me, but most I believe.
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Thanks for the comments, and great story. I'm pretty proud of my kid. He went in a 25 and had a lot of things going for him, but he just really felt it was something he needed to do. The first "real" letter he sent home was basically, "Don't send me anything. No pictures, no food, nothing. I don't want these guys knowing anything about me." A week later (Christmas) his mom sent him hand-warmers because she heard it got cold at night in San Diego. He said he paid for that until he graduated. And he just found out he'll be going for Arctic Training in Norway this winter.

But back to football - I think its a great point about the tit-for-tat stuff skewing the big picture. It happens to all of us. It would be nice if we could temper our pride and egos a bit more to cut each other a little slack. I think sometimes people just need a little drama. I get sucked in from time to time too.

I like the same things about Kelly you do. My concern list is a bit longer, but I think Kelly is a good fit at ND for a ton of reasons. I'd feel better if we could convincingly get through a November looking like we had genuinely improved over the course of the season. I've always thought good teams get better as the season goes on. Our opener was our most complete game of the season. I don't know what to make of that.
 
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IRISHJD98 said:
Thanks for the comments, and great story. I'm pretty proud of my kid. He went in a 25 and had a lot of things going for him, but he just really felt it was something he needed to do. The first "real" letter he sent home was basically, "Don't send me anything. No pictures, no food, nothing. I don't want these guys knowing anything about me." A week later (Christmas) his mom sent him hand-warmers because she heard it got cold at night in San Diego. He said he paid for that until he graduated. And he just found out he'll be going for Arctic Training in Norway this winter.

But back to football - I think its a great point about the tit-for-tat stuff skewing the big picture. It happens to all of us. It would be nice if we could temper our pride and egos a bit more to cut each other a little slack. I think sometimes people just need a little drama. I get sucked in from time to time too.

I like the same things about Kelly you do. My concern list is a bit longer, but I think Kelly is a good fit at ND for a ton of reasons. I'd feel better if we could convincingly get through a November looking like we had genuinely improved over the course of the season. I've always thought good teams get better as the season goes on. Our opener was our most complete game of the season. I don't know what to make of that.
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Aside from Stanford (and that's only because it's their home field) I think ND works its way through the schedule convincingly.

In regards to Stanford it can not come down to Stanford having the ball last. I can't imagine another 2012 ending in Palo Alto.

God Bless your boy
 
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