Thinking About the early recruiting

[cgvr]

7 wins ? Notre Dame under Coach Kelly has never had less than 8 wins in a season. I assume you are using seasons including bowls since you have 9 wins up there (That 9 win season included a bowl win)

Try to pay attention. kelly has been 8-5 for 50% of his ND career.

Twice he finished the season at 7-5 and won the bowl game to get to 8-5.

So, 33% of kelly's ND regular seasons records have been 7-5.

Now go hop around in your kitchen chanting, "2 4 6 8 who do we appreciate...."

PS I wish Cecil was alive so someone could shoot him again.

 

[South Bender]

^ you're kidding? the annual mantra is getting stale.

No doubt the staff is putting in every effort, but something is just not clicking with (defensive line recruits) recruits.

This stale?? Really?? I think you invented the word.

 

[Howard Hall 74]

Boys and girls here is the bottom line - will Coach 8 & 4 become Coach 10 & 2? If ND keeps producing the numbers of draft eligible players, like they have for the last 3 years, the recruiting may see the annual results everyone can hope for and the season records will show it. Generally, NC quality teams have difference makers on both sides of the ball. Players that change the way a game plan is put together. It doesn't require a lot of players, just 1 or 2 on both sides. Players that help elevate everyone's play, whether on O, D or ST (particularly PK and P) That's where getting each year 1 or 2 players that are 5* really can change the ability to compete for a NC. . Ask Clemson. The draft success is critical to recruits recognizing the potential of playing at ND. When that happens Coach 8&4 can become Coach 10 & 2.

 

[perseverare]

TOS has an article about 5 top defensive players ND will face in '16.

Reading through the list one realizes that there currently is no such player projected for the the ND defense.
The top defensive teams usually will have a few difference makers on both sides of the ball.

When the ND D catches up to the ND offense then ND fans will have something to beat their chests about.

You can recruit the top defensive players, but you cannot force them to come to ND.

 

[NDSMC78]

Boys and girls here is the bottom line - will Coach 8 & 4 become Coach 10 & 2? If ND keeps producing the numbers of draft eligible players, like they have for the last 3 years, the recruiting may see the annual results everyone can hope for and the season records will show it. Generally, NC quality teams have difference makers on both sides of the ball. Players that change the way a game plan is put together. It doesn't require a lot of players, just 1 or 2 on both sides. Players that help elevate everyone's play, whether on O, D or ST (particularly PK and P) That's where getting each year 1 or 2 players that are 5* really can change the ability to compete for a NC. . Ask Clemson. The draft success is critical to recruits recognizing the potential of playing at ND. When that happens Coach 8&4 can become Coach 10 & 2.

More drivel from this notorious flamer.

 

[mirer03]

Gilmore is a known developer of dline talent. He is known for getting the most out of 4 and 3 star guys. The key is to develop a dline from 3 and 4 star guys will take time, and I am not sure BVG will be around if improvement doesn't happen before then. I love the Gilmore hire and hope we start seeing improvements this year, even with the losses from last year. A Beal quality player or two would really make a huge difference over the next cycle while other guys develop.

I'm still more concerned about the secondary. Lots of young talent, but Lyght has to show he can mold them.

 

[captstabbin]

Try to pay attention. kelly has been 8-5 for 50% of his ND career.

Twice he finished the season at 7-5 and won the bowl game to get to 8-5.

So, 33% of kelly's ND regular seasons records have been 7-5.

Now go hop around in your kitchen chanting, "2 4 6 8 who do we appreciate...."

PS I wish Cecil was alive so someone could shoot him again.

To be fair, he has had only one 8 win season in the past 4 years....with a 10 win and a NC game appearance in that time....but don't let those facts ruin your childish never ending rants against CBK.

 

[perseverare]

heading into his 2nd '6yr contract', he has players he has players he recruited and/or developed.
If we accept the first tenure as 'righting the ship', then it is all about performance and results starting in 2016.
Time to prove it!
The usual excuses will fall on deaf ears.

 

[cgvr]

To be fair, he has had only one 8 win season in the past 4 years....with a 10 win and a NC game appearance in that time....but don't let those facts ruin your childish never ending rants against CBK.

"To be fair," "I am going to look at 4 years rather than his full body of work"..... Thanks for the laughs.

Here's some stuff to chew on courtesy of TOS:

Since 2011, when Shaw started as the head coach at Stanford, his record is 54-14 (.794). In the same time frame, Brian Kelly is 47-18 (.723) (55-23 (.705) overall).Posters argue about Stanford playing "Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl!" or "Not as strong of a schedule!" So, let's compare the two based on their records vs. teams finishing in the Top 25 of the final AP Poll.

2011-2015 vs. final Top 25 teams:
Shaw: 12-11 (.521)
Kelly: 8-14 (.363) (he is 8-17 overall (.320))

vs. final Top 10 teams:
Shaw: 5-5 (.500)
Kelly: 2-8 (.200)

Home vs. Top 25 (Top 10 in parentheses)
Shaw: 7-3 (2-2)
Kelly: 6-3 (2-2)

Away vs. Top 25 (Top 10)
Shaw: 4-6 (2-2)
Kelly: 1-8 (0-4)

Neutral vs. Top 25 (Top 10)
Shaw: 1-2 (1-2)
Kelly: 1-3 (0-2)

vs. unranked in final AP Poll teams:

Shaw: 42-3 (.933) losses on the road to Wash('12), Utah('13), ND('14)
Kelly 39-4 (.910) losses at home to USF('11) & NW('14) and on the road to UM('13) & Pitt('13). He is 47-6 (.885) overall vs. unranked teams after including 2010 losses to UM (home) and Navy (neutral).

So in six years, Kelly has lost twice at home to unranked teams, has not won a major bowl, bats about 1 for 3 versus top competition, and has one win on the road (Okla.-'12) against a team finishing in the Top 25.

Compare that line to Shaw who has not yet lost at home to an unranked team, has won two Rose Bowls (played in two other major bowls), has won over half of his games versus top competition, and has beaten four Top 25 teams on the road.

Yes, you're right XXXX, by any objective measure Shaw has Stanford on a track to which Notre Dame can only aspire."

Tah dah.....

I hope this makes you faint.

PS The purple one is 2-4 versus Stanford.

 

[cgvr]

heading into his 2nd '6yr contract', he has players he has players recruited and/or developed.
If we accept the first tenure as 'righting the ship', then it is all about performance and results starting in 2016.
Time to prove it!
The usual excuses will fall on deaf ears.

Plus, he had his best year with a dumbed down O, stifling defense and a roster chock full of weis' recruits.
He was "gifted" a cornucopia of outstanding talent.

PS Factoid: The Empire state Building was built in 410 days.....

 

[Pennick4]

TOS has an article about 5 top defensive players ND will face in '16.

Reading through the list one realizes that there currently is no such player projected for the the ND defense.
The top defensive teams usually will have a few difference makers on both sides of the ball.


.

No wonder those defenses are so good. They get to play on both sides of the line of scrimmage.

 

[perseverare]

^ actually you attempt to be a smart ass, actually has resulted in a statement of agreement. But it probably went over your head (which is where it usually is: up your butt).

 

[Bodizephax]

^ actually you attempt to be a smart ass, actually has resulted in a statement of agreement. But it probably went over your head (which is where it usually is: up your butt).

You need to improve your English in a hurry , Purse. Trump is going to deport you. Sling shot you over the wall !!

 

[Classic Irish]

Boys and girls here is the bottom line - will Coach 8 & 4 become Coach 10 & 2? If ND keeps producing the numbers of draft eligible players, like they have for the last 3 years, the recruiting may see the annual results everyone can hope for and the season records will show it. Generally, NC quality teams have difference makers on both sides of the ball. Players that change the way a game plan is put together. It doesn't require a lot of players, just 1 or 2 on both sides. Players that help elevate everyone's play, whether on O, D or ST (particularly PK and P) That's where getting each year 1 or 2 players that are 5* really can change the ability to compete for a NC. . Ask Clemson. The draft success is critical to recruits recognizing the potential of playing at ND. When that happens Coach 8&4 can become Coach 10 & 2.

^^^^^^^Brian Davidson^^^^^^^^^^

 

[coolirish9]

I can't remember who all is coming but our irish have a loaded group of 4 and 5 star studs coming in for irish invasion on june 18th. some of the kids coming are former verbal 4 star beal, top five OT foster from washington with the whole family, five star LB brown from texas, our new 5 star QB along with a host of other elite four star kids. read where some writers from scout think we get some verbals at irish invasion

 

[Pennick4]

You need to improve your English in a hurry , Purse. Trump is going to deport you. Sling shot you over the wall !!

We can only hope he gets ejected over the wall. He is a putz.

 

[Bodizephax]

We can only hope he gets ejected over the wall. He is a putz.

The wall can't stop cgvr, unfortunately. He is a fairy. He can just fly over the wall.

 

[cgvr]

The wall can't stop cgvr, unfortunately. He is a fairy. He can just fly over the wall.

Keep practicing!!!!

 

[perseverare]

c9
yep, the II will be a huge recruiting event. Defensively, landing a few front 7 impact players is always the goal. ND has been close in recent cycles but ....
Hopefully this cycle ND can close the deal on pair of top defensive lineman.

When the D catches up to the O, the O will be made better by the D, and vice versa.

 

[Bodizephax]

Keep practicing!!!!

Does your husband get pissed when you make him dress like Jim Harbaugh when you go to the movies ? Maybe you should change it up and make him dress like David Shaw.

 

[cgvr]

Does your husband get pissed when you make him dress like Jim Harbaugh when you go to the movies ? Maybe you should change it up and make him dress like David Shaw.

You must be happy that you can choose your bathroom now.
Let's recap and please explain how the kelly doesn't stink....

2011-2015 vs. final Top 25 teams:
(This timeline was a shaw comparison and I removed Shaw's #s to focus on dopey)

Kelly: 8-14 (.363) (he is 8-17 overall (.320)) (That stinks)

vs. final Top 10 teams:
Kelly: 2-8 (.200) (That really stinks)

Away vs. Top 25 (Top 10)
Kelly: 1-8 (0-4) (Simply pathetic)

Neutral vs. Top 25 (Top 10)
Kelly: 1-3 (0-2) (P U)

"So in six years, Kelly has lost twice at home to unranked teams, has not won a major bowl, bats about 1 for 3 versus top competition, and has one win on the road (Okla.-'12) against a team finishing in the Top 25."

 

[Bodizephax]

You must be happy that you can choose your bathroom now.
Let's recap and please explain how the kelly doesn't stink....

2011-2015 vs. final Top 25 teams:
(This timeline was a shaw comparison and I removed Shaw's #s to focus on dopey)

Kelly: 8-14 (.363) (he is 8-17 overall (.320)) (That stinks)

vs. final Top 10 teams:
Kelly: 2-8 (.200) (That really stinks)

Away vs. Top 25 (Top 10)
Kelly: 1-8 (0-4) (Simply pathetic)

Neutral vs. Top 25 (Top 10)
Kelly: 1-3 (0-2) (P U)

"So in six years, Kelly has lost twice at home to unranked teams, has not won a major bowl, bats about 1 for 3 versus top competition, and has one win on the road (Okla.-'12) against a team finishing in the Top 25."

Quit getting off the subject. We were talking about your sexuality. Are you or are you not physically attracted to Jim Harbaugh?

 

[john0gaunt]

Bodi, don't get down on cgmr for his feelings about the other husbands. He's always comparing his man to the other men. You know how these girls are, it's just what they do.

 

[Irishjohn68]

Plus, he had his best year with a dumbed down O, stifling defense and a roster chock full of weis' recruits.
He was "gifted" a cornucopia of outstanding talent.

PS Factoid: The Empire state Building was built in 410 days.....

You can't be series? Weis left him a shit load of nothing, but then again don't let the facts get in your way.

 

[Irishjohn68]

I am truly convinced that if/when Coach Kelly wins a NC some of you will still be unhappy. I just don't understand how some of you idiots can't enjoy a ND football game/season. Unless you are masquerading as ND fans on this message board which I'm guessing is the case for most if not all the haters.

 

[cgvr]

You can't be series? Weis left him a shit load of nothing, but then again don't let the facts get in your way.

Name the starters in the '12 game that weren't weis recruits. Have fun with that...

Here are some of the guys weis left dopey with....Eifert, Te'o, Slaughter, Riddick, Kapron Lewis Moore, Zeke Motta, Michael Floyd, Harrison Smith, Robert Blanton, Darius Fleming, Kyle Rudolph.....

 

[cgvr]

Quit getting off the subject. We were talking about your sexuality. Are you or are you not physically attracted to Jim Harbaugh?

What subject is that? I'm focusing on how bad dopey is as a head coach. The stats don't lie. He is "el stinko" much like you. You better change your depends.

 

[Irishjohn68]

Name the starters in the '12 game that weren't weis recruits. Have fun with that...

Here are some of the guys weis left dopey with....Eifert, Te'o, Slaughter, Riddick, Kapron Lewis Moore, Zeke Motta, Michael Floyd, Harrison Smith, Robert Blanton, Darius Fleming, Kyle Rudolph.....

And do you think Weis could have coached them to a 12-0 record? Weis couldn't coach himself out of a wet paper bag. Kelly coached them up stop fooling yourself.

 

[Irishjohn68]

What subject is that? I'm focusing on how bad dopey is as a head coach. The stats don't lie. He is "el stinko" much like you. You better change your depends.

Feel free to go root for another team! The bandwagon is full now!

 

[cgvr]

And do you think Weis could have coached them to a 12-0 record? Weis couldn't coach himself out of a wet paper bag. Kelly coached them up stop fooling yourself.

Apparently, you would prefer to not answer a straightforward question. Interestingly, kelly proclaimed that the backbone of the NC game squad weren't his guys. weis left stupid with a boatload of huge talent. The morbidly obese one was within a bush push of NC game consideration. He also defied medical science by blowing a lap band to bits. I am guessing he set a record for inhaling Yodels with that effort. So, fatso, who arguably is among the worst cfb HCs in history, almost made the dance. He also had 2 major bowl appearances. kelly's coaching stinks and van gorder also sucks wind. I will continue to cheer for my Alma mater and continue to laugh at those that lacked the intelligence to get in.

 

[john0gaunt]

weis left stupid with ...The morbidly obese one .. set a record for inhaling Yodels.. fatso, ...the worst cfb HCs in history,.. kelly's coaching stinks and van gorder sucks wind...I cheer for my Alma mater and laugh at those lacked the intelligence to get in.

I gotta say I am kind of learning to love the troll cgmr. If it ever did graduate from a college, it must be truly a despicable institution. If it were ND, it really helps to cut down on the elitism that might infect real grads. I find elitism to be especially boring and rude in a person, so the troll actually serves a purpose.

I love this troll. I want to make cgmr my wife.

 

[cgvr]

Bodi, don't get down on cgmr for his feelings about the other husbands. He's always comparing his man to the other men. You know how these girls are, it's just what they do.

 

[Bodizephax]

I gotta say I am kind of learning to love the troll cgmr. If it ever did graduate from a college, it must be truly a despicable institution. If it were ND, it really helps to cut down on the elitism that might infect real grads. I find elitism to be especially boring and rude in a person, so the troll actually serves a purpose.

I love this troll. I want to make cgmr my wife.

I gotta say I am kind of learning to love the troll cgmr. If it ever did graduate from a college, it must be truly a despicable institution. If it were ND, it really helps to cut down on the elitism that might infect real grads. I find elitism to be especially boring and rude in a person, so the troll actually serves a purpose.

I love this troll. I want to make cgmr my wife.

Be carefull what you wish for. cgmr will wear you out. She is a wild one.

 

[john0gaunt]

And for those watching, when a troll posts a link to a gay porn video, don't click the link.
This is one of the first rules of the internet.

That being said, I think I am in love with cgmr. I want to make sweet love to cgmr. Sweet man love, for the rest of my life.

 

[cgvr]

You can't be series? Weis left him a shit load of nothing, but then again don't let the facts get in your way.

You are correct. I can't be "series", but I can be serious.

 

[cgvr]

Be carefull what you wish for. cgmr will wear you out. She is a wild one.

Away vs. Top 25 (Top 10)
Kelly: 1-8 (0-4) (Simply pathetic)

Sisboombah!!!!

 

[perseverare]

IJ

Weis left some very good skill players; unfortunately the OL was less impressive and based off performances, the Defense was nothing special.

 

[cgvr]

IJ

Weis left some very good skill players; unfortunately the OL was less impressive and based off performances, the Defense was nothing special.

Calling Manti a very good skill player is very understated. He's among the most decorated defensive players in cfb history.

Ditto NFL draftees Eifert, Slaughter, Riddick, Kapron Lewis Moore, Zeke Motta, Michael Floyd, Harrison Smith, Robert Blanton, Darius Fleming, Kyle Rudolph..... PS I think there were 4 NFL first rounders included.....

 

[Bodizephax]

And do you think Weis could have coached them to a 12-0 record? Weis couldn't coach himself out of a wet paper bag. Kelly coached them up stop fooling yourself.

Your wasting your time with cgmr. She/he is a Notre Dame hating troll and a vile pervert. On every ND board but this one he would have been booted along time ago. cgmr even stated before he hates Lou Holtz. What kind of Irish fan hates Lou Holtz?

 

[cgvr]

Your wasting your time with cgmr. She/he is a Notre Dame hating troll and a vile pervert. On every ND board but this one he would have been booted along time ago. cgmr even stated before he hates Lou Holtz. What kind of Irish fan hates Lou Holtz?

That's a lie. I've never written that I hated Lou Holtz. I didn't care for some of his sideline antics and wasn't to thrilled when grad rates dropped into the 70 percentile.... I also think he should have won more titles.

PS How's using the ladies bathrooms working out for you? Do you share make up?