Blind side blocking isn’t remotely related to helmet to helmet contact, ditto defenseless players
The problem I have with targeting calls
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Blind side blocking isn’t remotely related to helmet to helmet contact, ditto defenseless players
when’s the last time a defender tackled a player when the defensive player was 90 degrees to the field.
you probably forgot about the protective horseshoe collars and their purpose.
if a defender is at 45 to 70 degrees when making a tackle and puts his face at 90 degrees to the field, he’s going to sever his spinal cord at impact
When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging.
do the names Devin Gardner and Max Redfield ring a bell? Redfield acting as a blocker after an interception gets flagged for a blindside hit on defenseless Gardner.
You are completely missing the point.
The crown is where your hairline meets your forehead. Your face mask sticks about 2 inches out from that. It’s impossible to have your crown hit first unless you are looking down. Period. 99.999999% of tackles are done this way, thus less than 1 ejection per few thousand contacts per game.
If your crown hits first, you tackled the incorrectly.
And I’d like to suggest that the OP try that exercise repeatedly. Maybe it would knock some sense into him.
one has nothing to do with the other, they are distinctly different rules/calls
Haha nice pivot ... of course they are different calls. Defensive players can be defenseless players. Use some common sense, the rules have been put in place to protect players from reckless and dangerous play especially involving head contact. Get over it, it’s not 1950 anymore.
nobody, with the exception of interior linemen tackle while standing straight up at 90 degrees to the field. Most tackles are made when the defender is 45 to 70 degrees to the field. That automatically changes the position/angle of the helmet. When the offensive player lowers their head, and ducks, it changes the position/angle of their helmet, creating a crown to crown collision. Why should that event be solely the defensive players penalty ?
your missing the point, the issue is helmet to helmet targeting, not blindside or defenseless player hits. Blindside and defenseless player hits have nothing to do with helmet to helmet contact
You are all over the place bro, we get the rules. You are the guy that was questioning an obvious targeting call over and over.
I’ve been consistent, you were the one confusing the rules.
I called into question the offensive players culpability in creating targeting calls, which are almost universally called on defenders.
when a defender goes to tackle an offensive player and in the second or two prior to contact, the offensive player alters his position and lowers his helmet, essentially causing helmet to helmet contact, why is that solely the defenders responsibility?
Leading with the crown of the helmet is what they're trying to clean up. It's dangerous for the tackler and offensive player. It was without a doubt targeting. I think the guy doing a Butkus neck tackle hurt more than the helmet to helmet hit. I don't blame Lawrence for playing possum after those hits. It's very impactful seeing the big star laying on the ground in 2019 after that play. it insured somebody was going to get tossed from the game.
Take a closer look, Wade is coming in on Trevor’s shoulder when Trevor lowers his head AND rotates his body, presenting his head rather than his shoulder.
I agree when the offensive player doesn’t change his body position prior to the hit, but when the offensive player changes the position and angle of his body and that results in a targeting call, the penalty on the defensive player shouldn’t be so severe.
if not, the equivalent of the “flop” will come into play
Doesn't matter. Leading with the crown of your helmet in the shoulder/ head area will always garner scrutiny. It was poor fundamentals by the player.
