Weis left a hole on the DL. The team converted an OL to play there and try to stop the run. I believe he was a 1L in law school while playing D1 football. We were 6-6 with @10 one-score games because it was even money whether Clausen-Tate could score enough to compensate. CW may have stuck around a lot longer if he could NIL-no sit out transfer in trained players to plug the gaps he left in recruiting.
Umm…how did they perform? Go undefeated? Win a major bowl? Record against top 10? Will hang up and waitLook at what a #2 class looks like (Weis' 2008).
We had 4 guys in the top 40 players -- with two five star talents (Crist was never the same after injury but was as in demand a QB prospect that there was in his class respectively). This was when we still had the #1 QB in the country already starting/on the roster (Clausen).
We had another 7 commits from guys in the top 120 in that cycle.
No, no …can’t separate as you want to do here. These “great recruits” lost 10 games to MSU, Pitt, UNC, BC, Syracuse, Navy, UConn in 2 years. They were overrated.
One first round pick outta of that group. So your post today is quite contrary to what you have communicated previously. Very few difference makers there
Did he have a positive impact on Notre Dame? He robbed ND blind with the contact extension.
You're an idiot. They offered him the contact. Any person, including you, would have signed it
No if you remember there was talk of Weis leaving ND after in season to be a HC in the NFL. Those rumors where started by Weis and his agent to get more money and years out of ND.
And who offered him the contact ? He didn't force them to do it. Blame the administration if you want to blame someone
Charlie Weis didn’t rob Notre Dame.
Since you chose to bring me into the conversation, let me say this, Golson5 and I are exponentially smarter than you.
I was a big defender of Weis for several reason as I am sure you remember trying to walk me off the edge lol, but i I clearly couldn't see the forest through the trees at that time
DIP, WE all got roped in after that USC Bush push game. "We're back". Unfortunately the next year was a sobering smack in the face. Happy St Patricks Day!
Since then my hair sticks out whenever a coach takes credit for a 'quality loss.'
Weis offense stretched the field like his waistline!
I’ll take Weis over Willingham any day. Weis was an alum, loved the university, and recruited his heart out. Almost had ND in the title game in 2005 and was responsible for a lot the 2012 players. The stage was set for Kelly.
Faust was the worst hire, by far, then Ty, Davie and Weis.
Perfectly said. Weis was a hot mess. I thought he was a terrible recruiter. Yes he got very good offensive players but he refused to recruit defensive players. And he was arrogant for no reason very overrated.
Hunk Anderson -- 1933
Exactly. Weis has the dubious distinction among some of the worst coaches in ND history. None of them won a national championship and almost all of them were fired.
So, it’s your position that if you don’t want an actual championship, you’re a failure as a coach ?
Are you serious?
It's really a mixed bag.
Faust, A great ambassador for the school. A really nice guy but in way over his head. That was still in ND’s wheelhouse where they were the main show on tv. Faust was the worst hire in my lifetime.
He did beat Bo after he proclaimed he wouldn’t lose to a HS coach!
Broken clock right 2x a day & military clock 1x a day. I remember seeing coach Faust climbing the stairs to watch a game in South Bend behind me. As person he’s a great humble guy. I think he felt terrible that ND had fallen mightily under him.
How did he fare at Akron ?
I have no idea Pat. Yeah , I agree his hiring is definitely a head scratcher. Remember back then, he had all the parade all Americans @ Moeller
