So, Done with Bonaparte was removed. Ok. Zaire is the better QB.
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Bodizephax
I've posted how many times?
and...remember this was the same forum that expected 12-0,12-0 and a couple HT's for EG!
(I recall so many post re EG's running ability as an additional threat for Kelly's offense! Unless reported wrong, TE'O had a faster combine 40 than EG did at pro day!)
Can you tell the forum exactly how many actual full completed QTRs of football, as a starter, you have witnessed MZ play, as the basis of your conclusion?
And if BVG did not go fubar for the last 20 seconds of SU vs ND, ND may have gone to the playoffs.
But, you would still be benching your QB? If the answer is not yes, then you must be blaming your QB for the defensive meltdown in those 20 seconds?
(I recall so many post re EG's running ability as an additional threat for Kelly's offense! Unless reported wrong, TE'O had a faster combine 40 than EG did at pro day!)
Can you tell the forum exactly how many actual full completed QTRs of football, as a starter, you have witnessed MZ play, as the basis of your conclusion?
And if BVG did not go fubar for the last 20 seconds of SU vs ND, ND may have gone to the playoffs.
But, you would still be benching your QB? If the answer is not yes, then you must be blaming your QB for the defensive meltdown in those 20 seconds?
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Pers -- yea -- kind of agree with BVG and the last 20 seconds -- how does a receiver get that clean of a release off the LOS and a clear path down the middle of the field? And that happened a lot in that game.
Also -- I hope Kelly and staff address the red zone -- the 1st 3 possessions there were FG's -- any one of them is a TD and the defense does not have to hold on.
Since this seems to be an open topic thread -- found the below to be interesting for 2016 --
According to FPI, the five toughest P5 schedules in the nation belong to USC, Ole Miss, Florida State, Cal and Alabama. The five easiest are Minnesota, Michigan, Purdue, Maryland and Nebraska. No coincidence those are all in the Big Ten.
According to FPI, the five toughest P5 schedules in the nation belong to USC, Ole Miss, Florida State, Cal and Alabama. The five easiest are Minnesota, Michigan, Purdue, Maryland and Nebraska. No coincidence those are all in the Big Ten.
the thing about schedules is they are done years in advance, so you just never know!
like a box o chocolates
like a box o chocolates
You let the competition play out and allow the best QB to show they're the best and win the job
Pretty simple
Also, people have very selective memory about Kizer's 2015 season and are ignoring a lot of what Zaire did
? ND would have been 1-1 if it had played out! I am now placing you on iggy; there is just no value added reading your posts.
ND would have been 1-1 if what?
It's pretty obvious to everyone who actually lacks value here
The only reasonable approach is the one Kelly has chosen, and that is to let competition decide who starts at QB next year. Arguments can be made for both Kizer and Zaire. We are fortunate to have three high upside QB's, and we are fortunate each one brings a little different mix of strengths to the competition. If or when the starter goes down, we will not see a huge drop off nor the need to radically change game plans. Our best QB situation in memory.
no one wants to put forward exactly why MZ gets more consideration than Wim? His experience is ? He split a game vs LSU, he beat a then pitiful Texas team, and trailed vs UVA when injured. This is not Y A Tittle we are talking about! MZ is a talented kid but lets keep perspective and not go all EG on him!
To disrupt a team identity and chemistry, to replace an incumbent starter who has played superbly, it takes a major gap in production and talent. That is not what w are hearing coming out of spring camp.
If DK gets pulled and things go badly out of the gate, things may be fubar!
To disrupt a team identity and chemistry, to replace an incumbent starter who has played superbly, it takes a major gap in production and talent. That is not what w are hearing coming out of spring camp.
If DK gets pulled and things go badly out of the gate, things may be fubar!
No he did not trail when injured against Virginia. Get your facts straight. In fact, had Zaire not been injured there may not have been a hail mary needed to win the game. Who knows Zaire may not have lost a game all season if not injured. We will never know.
Bodizephax
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I agree. Malik was on fire against Texas. And was turning up the heat on Virginia. The Irish were up by 12 and had the momentum when Malik got hurt.
His injury shocked the Irish and they lost the momentum. Malik had 87 yards rushing into the third quarter and probably would have got over 150.
Kizer is very good. But he will have to cut down on turnovers. Malik has not turned the ball over yet. Not against USC, LSU, or Texas or Virginia or in scrub duty.
Bodizephax
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iggy??? What a girly man you are Purse. Only a girly man would say Iggy.
ND was up 19-14 with 1:15 to go in the 3rd when Zaire got hurt. Kizer then came in and handed off to Prosise who ran 24 yards for a TD making it 26-14.
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Bodizephax
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Well, in my humble judgment; Kizer seems to get tight in tight situations. I didn't like the way he looked in red zone opportunities. Zaire seems to me to be a quicker athlete; and a more affirmative decision maker. My call; Zaire needs to start.
You gave Kizer credit for a drive that Zaire led, and in which Kizer never threw a single pass or ran the ball even once.
You posted your version of events, to support your agenda.
The reality is that at the end of the "Zaire Led Drives" we were up 12 points
Kizer then came and let UVA take the lead, before miraculously pulling out a victory.
The ND offense was more effective in the UVA game when Zaire was leading it
I didn't give credit to anyone. I posted what happened and provided video.
PS I like Zaire's leadership/fire better than Kizer's. In any event it's going to be difficult to improve on Zaire's 65% and Kizer's 62.9 % completion percentages from last season. Combined they were 25/10 TD/Int....plus, Kizer had 10 rushing TDs.
Yeah.. he looked so tight when he was put in the game against VA. The kid is a going to be a stud. He should start and play Malik if they struggle again in red zone.
Listening to ISD's power hour and from what they have been able to observe, all the big plays are being made with DK at qb. They also mentioned that DK has lost some weight and is quicker.
If Zaire is the QB, I'd expect the number of passing TDs to go down, the Rushing TDs to go up, and the INTs to go wayyyyyy down
If Kizer is the QB, I'd expect that all of the numbers improve somewhat
We should be at QB either way!
(Which is why the competition is the right way to handle the situation and is a great thing for the program as a whole)
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