So Lincoln Cryley wants to drop Notre Dame

[deadirishpoet]

And on top of that schedule a lesser opponent.
Who does this cat think hd is Nick Saban?
He's out of his depth.

"USC head coach Lincoln Riley has said that he would consider dropping the annual Notre Dame-USC football game if it would help the Trojans win a national championsh"

 

[1Redrum]

The thing is I don't think scheduling patsies helps you in this new era. You want an easy conference schedule....so you can play in or win your conference Championship game but if you are not playing in your conference Championship game you need to have played decent competition and won to make it. I.E. Miami being out etc.

 

[NDSMC78]

And on top of that schedule a lesser opponent.
Who does this cat think hd is Nick Saban?
He's out of his depth.

"USC head coach Lincoln Riley has said that he would consider dropping the annual Notre Dame-USC football game if it would help the Trojans win a national championsh"

I very much doubt that Lincoln Riley has much say in the matter.

 

[Telx1]

And on top of that schedule a lesser opponent.
Who does this cat think hd is Nick Saban?
He's out of his depth.

"USC head coach Lincoln Riley has said that he would consider dropping the annual Notre Dame-USC football game if it would help the Trojans win a national championsh"

His reasoning sucks, and his disregard for this great longstanding rivalry game is worse. That said, I do think it’s going to be increasingly more challenging for ND to schedule USC and other major conference games after the start of their conference games. I keep thinking the Big and the SEC are going to play their eight conference games after three non conference games, and ND will be forced to schedule marque opponents early in the season, etc… Hope not, as I love rivalry weekend following Thanksgiving, and watching ND/USC.

 

[BGI User 1596]

The thing is I don't think scheduling patsies helps you in this new era. You want an easy conference schedule....so you can play in or win your conference Championship game but if you are not playing in your conference Championship game you need to have played decent competition and won to make it. I.E. Miami being out etc.

Only if you’re not in the Big or SEC.

 

[NDblitz]

And on top of that schedule a lesser opponent.
Who does this cat think hd is Nick Saban?
He's out of his depth.

"USC head coach Lincoln Riley has said that he would consider dropping the annual Notre Dame-USC football game if it would help the Trojans win a national championsh"

Brought this topic up back in September. It's going to happen IMO.

 

[NDblitz]

This is why I firmly believe ND needs to schedule an FCS team for their 12th game next season. They have more than enough quality on there and now that Barry Odom is at Purdue that won't be an easy game anymore. You can't be a traditionalist anymore and expect to come out on top. As much as the ND/SC game is a huge game this is one of many "traditions" I think is going by the wayside.

 

[savvyandsassier]

That's a bad look for LR, real bad. Those two pick sixes and another loss to ND are not what kept them out of the playoffs. USC going 6-6 is what kept them out. And who the hell is this hillbilly boy coach, who truly has no deep investment in USC football at all, and has done the program no favors with these underachieving seasons for being such a hotshot coach of his generation, to try and engineer and lobby for the ending of maybe the most prestigious, and venerable rivalry in CFB. To make things easier on him, it is fair to say.

Hopefully, presumably, this gets shot down, and I don't even know how much longer he's even go to last at SC. Though he probably has some massive, ridiculous buyout.

 

[BGI User 1596]

This is why I firmly believe ND needs to schedule an FCS team for their 12th game next season. They have more than enough quality on there and now that Barry Odom is at Purdue that won't be an easy game anymore. You can't be a traditionalist anymore and expect to come out on top. As much as the ND/SC game is a huge game this is one of many "traditions" I think is going by the wayside.

Just don’t reschedule NIU!

 

[Pennick4]

Lincoln Riley should worry about keeping his job. If his contract wasn't so ridiculous he would have been canned by now. What a tool he is..

 

[sjb75]

This is why I firmly believe ND needs to schedule an FCS team for their 12th game next season. They have more than enough quality on there and now that Barry Odom is at Purdue that won't be an easy game anymore. You can't be a traditionalist anymore and expect to come out on top. As much as the ND/SC game is a huge game this is one of many "traditions" I think is going by the wayside.

Bullshit.

 

[deadirishpoet]

I very much doubt that Lincoln Riley has much say in the matter.

Neither do I so the cat just floats something like that out there show he has no idea the value of this tradition

 

[deadirishpoet]

His reasoning sucks, and his disregard for this great longstanding rivalry game is worse. That said, I do think it’s going to be increasingly more challenging for ND to schedule USC and other major conference games after the start of their conference games. I keep thinking the Big and the SEC are going to play their eight conference games after three non conference games, and ND will be forced to schedule marque opponents early in the season, etc… Hope not, as I love rivalry weekend following Thanksgiving, and watching ND/USC.

That's great take on it

 

[deadirishpoet]

Brought this topic up back in September. It's going to happen IMO.

Which?
Notre Dame in conference, or SC dropping Notre Dame?
I can't imagine the powers that be want to tear down traditions to meet their so called hopes and dreams.
I mean we listen to them all the time talking about how much they care about college football. Something like that would fly in the face of they say they believe in

 

[NDinNJ]

Just don’t reschedule NIU!

or Marshall!!!

 

[christophero]

USC took on all comers in the Bush Carroll days. How the mighty have fallen.

 

[sjb75]

USC took on all comers in the Bush Carroll days. How the mighty have fallen.

That group also was corrupt. And that’s why Pete Carroll got out of Dodge to Seattle.

 

[NDinNJ]

That group also was corrupt. And that’s why Pete Carroll got out of Dodge to Seattle.

They were just way ahead of their time. Same with SMU. The SMU program got the death penalty for what is essentially allowed today.

 

[sjb75]

They were just way ahead of their time. Same with SMU. The SMU program got the death penalty for what is essentially allowed today.

Both USC and SMU got what they deserved, and I am proud of the fact that, at least IMO, Notre Dame wasn’t on that path.

 

[buckey]

And on top of that schedule a lesser opponent.
Who does this cat think hd is Nick Saban?
He's out of his depth.

"USC head coach Lincoln Riley has said that he would consider dropping the annual Notre Dame-USC football game if it would help the Trojans win a national championsh"

Yea. We kept him out of the playoffs. When you suck, it doesn’t matter who you play

 

[sjb75]

And on top of that schedule a lesser opponent.
Who does this cat think hd is Nick Saban?
He's out of his depth.

"USC head coach Lincoln Riley has said that he would consider dropping the annual Notre Dame-USC football game if it would help the Trojans win a national championsh"

USC won’t allow the annual series to end, IMO.

 

[banmate6]

All these things are noise as college football fast changes. NIL, transfers, and realignment have nailed the coffin of tradition. We're way past the point of pretending it's not about money.

Notre Dame will find a way for a competitive schedule. And to stay confident. Again, the irony is the new conditions better distribute talent...with ND being able to leverage brand, money, and stability. Blue blood advantages.

The distribution factor might near equalize the academic path factor. Ohio State, Alabama, and Georgia might not be able to stack monster teams anymore. More parity. Notre Dame and, theoretically, Stanford can field NC aspiring teams.

Qualification and selection will evolve too. It will never be perfect. But reasonable...punishing egregious gaming of scheduling. You won't get in winning vs cupcakes.

 

[Telx1]

All these things are noise as college football fast changes. NIL, transfers, and realignment have nailed the coffin of tradition. We're way past the point of pretending it's not about money.

Notre Dame will find a way for a competitive schedule. And to stay confident. Again, the irony is the new conditions better distribute talent...with ND being able to leverage brand, money, and stability. Blue blood advantages.

The distribution factor might near equalize the academic path factor. Ohio State, Alabama, and Georgia might not be able to stack monster teams anymore. More parity. Notre Dame and, theoretically, Stanford can field NC aspiring teams.

Qualification and selection will evolve too. It will never be perfect. But reasonable...punishing egregious gaming of scheduling. You won't get in winning vs cupcakes.

Largely accurate imo, but a bit more cynical than me. I don’t agree re all these changes having nailed the coffin of tradition, at least not for ND traditions. I think ND and USC will continue their annual rivalry game, just as I think we will play Navy every year. Timing of the USC game might change for sure. But there has clearly been a significant wipe out of other traditional rivalry games for teams that have changed conferences, for more Money.

 

[Irishjohn68]

And on top of that schedule a lesser opponent.
Who does this cat think hd is Nick Saban?
He's out of his depth.

"USC head coach Lincoln Riley has said that he would consider dropping the annual Notre Dame-USC football game if it would help the Trojans win a national championsh"

The fans of SC, the AD AND Board of directors would kill him.

 

[NDblitz]

Which?
Notre Dame in conference, or SC dropping Notre Dame?
I can't imagine the powers that be want to tear down traditions to meet their so called hopes and dreams.
I mean we listen to them all the time talking about how much they care about college football. Something like that would fly in the face of they say they believe in

SC Dropping ND

 

[NDblitz]

The fact that this subject has been addressed on numerous threads since the summer gives it legs. TAM and Texas stopped playing in 2011 due to expansion. ND and Miami played almost yearly until Miami joined the ACC. The Kansas–Missouri football series is the second-oldest and second-most-played rivalry in college football history. Stopped playing in 2012. BYU and Utah played yearly until Utah joined the PAC 12 since then it's been interrupted numerous times.. Okie St and OU as well. In addition, USC used to have ND on future schedules for 4-5 years into the future. After 2026 ND is no longer listed. Same with Stanford. Now they are no longer listed and the 2 are not playing next year. Oklahoma and Nebraska. CU and Nebraska. All traditional yearly rivalries, gone by the wayside.

 

[raulduke_007]

Both USC and SMU got what they deserved, and I am proud of the fact that, at least IMO, Notre Dame wasn’t on that path.

Lol you were slobbering over Pete in a thread you created on this board. You can stop the act. You outed yourself as a USC fan sport.

 

[Irishjohn68]

Lol you were slobbering over Pete in a thread you created on this board. You can stop the act. You outed yourself as a USC fan sport.

Amen.

 

[Irishjohn68]

USC is not dropping ND. The powers at USC will not let that happen. The only way USC can sell out the Colosseum is to bring ND to town.

 

[sjb75]

SC Dropping ND

Will never happen. Too much pressure from the USC money people to keep the game.

 

[banmate6]

Largely accurate imo, but a bit more cynical than me. I don’t agree re all these changes having nailed the coffin of tradition, at least not for ND traditions. I think ND and USC will continue their annual rivalry game, just as I think we will play Navy every year. Timing of the USC game might change for sure. But there has clearly been a significant wipe out of other traditional rivalry games for teams that have changed conferences, for more Money.

I hope you are right. I agree Navy and Army will find a way. Some tradition will be preserved.

But most schools might never again have a true student-athlete ideal. Most athletes will take the low academic path. Uncompromising schools like Notre Dame, Stanford, and Duke will challenge a majority opting for money and results.

But if Notre Dame and Stanford win, I doubt it changes the latter. Again, I hope to be so wrong about this.

 

[buckey]

The fans of SC, the AD AND Board of directors would kill him.

Another 500 season, they will anyway

 

[deadirishpoet]

They were just way ahead of their time. Same with SMU. The SMU program got the death penalty for what is essentially allowed today.

A head of their time?
No they were cheating, and even all the unstabilizing that's allowed now there is still programs tampering outside the lines through agents which is unethical at the least and probably illegal, and yet no officals are calling this out publicly

 

[NDinNJ]

A head of their time?
No they were cheating, and even all the unstadilizing that's allowed now their are still programs tampering outside the lines through agents which is unethical at the least and probably illegal, and yet no officals are calling thus out publicly

My point is what was cheating back then is pretty much allowed and accepted today.

 

[deadirishpoet]

My point is what was cheating back then is pretty much allowed and accepted today.

Sad state of affairs

 

[Kelso86]

The fact that this subject has been addressed on numerous threads since the summer gives it legs. TAM and Texas stopped playing in 2011 due to expansion. ND and Miami played almost yearly until Miami joined the ACC. The Kansas–Missouri football series is the second-oldest and second-most-played rivalry in college football history. Stopped playing in 2012. BYU and Utah played yearly until Utah joined the PAC 12. Okie St and OU as well. In addition, USC used to have ND on future schedules for 4-5 years into the future. After 2026 ND is no longer listed. Same with Stanford. Now they are no longer listed and the 2 are not playing next year. Oklahoma and Nebraska. CU and Nebraska. All traditional yearly rivalries, gone by the wayside.

"ND and Miami played almost yearly until Miami joined the ACC"

No -- that series was stopped after the 1990 game to due to the intensity of the rivalry (think '88 and '89) -- had nothing to do with Miami and the ACC (which BTW, did not occur until 2004).

 

[NDblitz]

"ND and Miami played almost yearly until Miami joined the ACC"

No -- that series was stopped after the 1990 game to due to the intensity of the rivalry (think '88 and '89) -- had nothing to do with Miami and the ACC (which BTW, did not occur until 2004).

Okay so you found one. And now that Miami is in the ACC, they play but won't play regularly.

 

[deadirishpoet]

Okay so you found one. And now that Miami is in the ACC, they play but won't play regularly.

Well now there's Michigan who made football possible at ND and stopped due to the hurt feelings they've built up because Notre Dame wanted to have it's own identity, and let's be clear Michigan to this moment would do anything it takes to hurt that identity.

 

[sjb75]

A head of their time?
No they were cheating, and even all the unstabilizing that's allowed now there is still programs tampering outside the lines through agents which is unethical at the least and probably illegal, and yet no officals are calling this out publicly

Cheating their collective asses off.

And you are correct, nothing has changed...........

 

[theskibro]

And on top of that schedule a lesser opponent.
Who does this cat think hd is Nick Saban?
He's out of his depth.

"USC head coach Lincoln Riley has said that he would consider dropping the annual Notre Dame-USC football game if it would help the Trojans win a national championsh"

He is a flash in the pan.