So Lincoln Cryley wants to drop Notre Dame

[theskibro]

He is a flash in the pan.

Cryley has no say in scheduling especially since he is flailing miserably and has been exposed as a fraud. Any coach can create a high powered offense if u have a good qb He had that at Okla but his defense has always sucked

He could be coaching at a mid America team in 2 years He’s a fraud

 

[francade]

Riley should be looking for a job, not trying to cancel the greatest intersectional rivalry in the sport.

 

[sjb75]

Riley should be looking for a job, not trying to cancel the greatest intersectional rivalry in the sport.

When you are guaranteed 93 million through 2032 to coach CFB at USC, and part of the deal is a home/mansion valued at around 20 million that overlooks the ocean in Rancho Palos Verdes, you aren’t looking for a job.

 

[francade]

Once again, all you think about is $. I don’t give a shit about his contract. Based on his tenure at usc, he should be looking for a job. Try not to view every effing subject through a dollar sign lens, and maybe posters won’t think you’re such a jackass.

 

[sjb75]

Once again, all you think about is $. I don’t give a shit about his contract. Based on his tenure at usc, he should be looking for a job. Try not to view every effing subject through a dollar sign lens, and maybe posters won’t think you’re such a jackass.

Bullshit.

Then tell Mike Norvell and Brian Kelly to also look for jobs. Both are underachieving and highly highly paid.

Tell Ryan Day to look for a job. He’s at Ohio St, highly highly paid, and can’t beat Michigan.

Got a problem? Fire the head coach.

I read the same crap from 80% of the Notre Dame fan base in 2016 when Brian Kelly was 4-8 in South Bend.

Then Brian Kelly went 54-9 over the next 5 seasons and went to two 4-team CFB Playoffs.

Whatever.

 

[francade]

We can’t tell them that, they make too much money. 😜

 

[francade]

All those you mentioned should be considered for termination, btw, no matter how big their contract is (I know that’s all you think about)

 

[sjb75]

All those you mentioned should be considered for termination, btw, no matter how big their contract is (I know that’s all you think about)

Of course. Fire the head coach. That solves everything.

 

[francade]

If they deserve it…or maybe we should just let them be mediocre or worse paying them all that money that you love to cite as if that’s a gauge to how they’re doing. It’s not, but you keep citing it as if it is. That’s idiotic & par for your course.

 

[francade]

11 losses in less than 3 seasons at a place that was supposedly “the best” according to your believed BK. Whatever 😂🤣

 

[sjb75]

11 losses in less than 3 seasons at a place that was supposedly “the best” according to your believed BK. Whatever 😂🤣

Brian Kelly was 4-8 in 2016. The majority of the Notre Dame fan base wanted Brian Kelly fired.

Thankfully there was an adult AD in the room.

 

[Drinking The Green Koolaid]

Of course. Fire the head coach. That solves everything.

History is replete with examples of highly compensated CEOs/executives being shown the door when the companies they lead are under performing; Carly Fiorina (HP); Martin Eberhard (Tesla); Travis Kalanick (Uber); Roger Smith (GM); John Akers (IBM); and Bob Nardelli (Home Depot), to name but a few. Even Steve Jobs got axed by Apple after a power struggle with the board. So yeah, getting fired comes with the territory when you are the man/woman in charge. And don't think for a minute that USC won't get rid of Lincoln Riley if they think they need to do so to move the program forward. I don't care what Lincoln Riley's buyout is.

 

[deadirishpoet]

Bullshit.

Then tell Mike Norvell and Brian Kelly to also look for jobs. Both are underachieving and highly highly paid.

Tell Ryan Day to look for a job. He’s at Ohio St, highly highly paid, and can’t beat Michigan.

Got a problem? Fire the head coach.

I read the same crap from 80% of the Notre Dame fan base in 2016 when Brian Kelly was 4-8 in South Bend.

Then Brian Kelly went 54-9 over the next 5 seasons and went to two 4-team CFB Playoffs.

Whatever.

I'm not a Ryan Day fan but his record is outstanding regardless if the majority of his loses are to Michigan, though that is comical.
Lincoln Riley is a major under achiever much like Kelly at LSU

 

[sjb75]

I'm not a Ryan Day fan but his record is outstanding regardless if the majority of his loses are to Michigan, though that is comical.
Lincoln Riley is a major under achiever much like Kelly at LSU

Fire the head coach.

That solves everything.

 

[Golson5]

Fire the head coach.

That solves everything.

Sometimes it does.

Depends on the situation.

 

[banmate6]

History is replete with examples of highly compensated CEOs/executives being shown the door when the companies they lead are under performing; Carly Fiorina (HP); Martin Eberhard (Tesla); Travis Kalanick (Uber); Roger Smith (GM); John Akers (IBM); and Bob Nardelli (Home Depot), to name but a few. Even Steve Jobs got axed by Apple after a power struggle with the board. So yeah, getting fired comes with the territory when you are the man/woman in charge. And don't think for a minute that USC won't get rid of Lincoln Riley if they think they need to do so to move the program forward. I don't care what Lincoln Riley's buyout is.

Great post.

Leadership is nuanced when it isn't so egregiously obvious. Which is the case most of the time. It was for BK at Notre Dame and is right now for Riley at USC.

I defended BK getting 5 years. He achieved my hope to put ND back to competitiveness, if not elite status. He left a solid base that Freeman is now leveraging.

Can Riley do the same at USC? Should he be retained or fired? I have no idea...like I said, and to your points, it's nuanced.

My gut says Riley should be given time.

 

[Drinking The Green Koolaid]

Great post.

Leadership is nuanced when it isn't so egregiously obvious. Which is the case most of the time. It was for BK at Notre Dame and is right now for Riley at USC.

I defended BK getting 5 years. He achieved my hope to put ND back to competitiveness, if not elite status. He left a solid base that Freeman is now leveraging.

Can Riley do the same at USC? Should he be retained or fired? I have no idea...like I said, and to your points, it's nuanced.

My gut says Riley should be given time.

I don't know enough about what is going on with USC's football program to hold an opinion as to whether Riley should go or stay. I have some close friends who are USC grads and boosters, and i guess their early enthusiasm with Riley's hire has turned into mild disappointment. Certainly Lincoln Riley is not the savant some thought he would be; there are some interesting parallels between Riley leaving Oklahoma for USC and Brian Kelly leaving ND for LSU. Colin Cowherd (who doesn't disguise his love of USC very well) thought Riley would usher the glory days back in, but obviously that has not happened. So I guess USC's AD has a tough decision ahead of him. I expect he will give Riley at least a couple of more seasons to right the ship, but who knows. Maybe Riley will turn things around, but that seems like a less likely outcome each season. I don't think the move to the B1G is going to help him. I only hope the annul USC/ND rivaly doesn't become collateral damage to the current predicament LR finds himself in. I should think the USC AD and BOT won't let that happen, but time will tell.

 

[FightingIrish44]

2025 USC plays an FCS, Georgia State, and ND out of conference. They don’t play Ohio State, Penn State, or Indiana in conference.

I’d think USC probably needs to go at least 8-4 for Riley to keep his job.

 

[savvyandsassier]

11 losses in less than 3 seasons at a place that was supposedly “the best” according to your believed BK. Whatever 😂🤣

Hey, it looks like you were taking a shot at BK, but it's hard to tell the context because you don't quote other people's posts. So what did he do now?

 

[sjb75]

2025 USC plays an FCS, Georgia State, and ND out of conference. They don’t play Ohio State, Penn State, or Indiana in conference.

I’d think USC probably needs to go at least 8-4 for Riley to keep his job.

Really? He will be owed around 80 million to buy him out after 2025.

 

[sjb75]

Great post.

Leadership is nuanced when it isn't so egregiously obvious. Which is the case most of the time. It was for BK at Notre Dame and is right now for Riley at USC.

I defended BK getting 5 years. He achieved my hope to put ND back to competitiveness, if not elite status. He left a solid base that Freeman is now leveraging.

Can Riley do the same at USC? Should he be retained or fired? I have no idea...like I said, and to your points, it's nuanced.

My gut says Riley should be given time.

Of course Lincoln Riley should be given time. No different than Swarbick sticking with Brian Kelly after 4-8 in 2016 when the vast majority of ND fans wanted Kelly fired.

 

[FightingIrish44]

Really? He will be owed around 80 million to buy him out after 2025.

I wasn’t thinking about that so maybe they will keep him. These contracts are crazy.

 

[NDblitz]

I wasn’t thinking about that so maybe they will keep him. These contracts are crazy.

Let me guess the Tuna brought up how much $ they owe Riley if he's fired.

 

[banmate6]

Of course Lincoln Riley should be given time. No different than Swarbick sticking with Brian Kelly after 4-8 in 2016 when the vast majority of ND fans wanted Kelly fired.

Probably. You know better than me. But just like with BK, I cautioned how hard it is to find the right coach...because winning actually isn't easy, as BK said. College football is littered with programs who fire frequently and do even worse. Patience seems prudent.

Again, I'm no expert on Riley. But I watch USC as often as I can. I live in San Francisco. USC should be an elite program, full stop.

Expectations should be high.

 

[tbonesays]

Of course Lincoln Riley should be given time. No different than Swarbick sticking with Brian Kelly after 4-8 in 2016 when the vast majority of ND fans wanted Kelly fired.

It is actually quite different. BK had just been given an extension after gloriously almost making the playoff. LR is still on his first.

 

[sjb75]

It is actually quite different. BK had just been given an extension after gloriously almost making the playoff. LR is still on his first.

?????

Lincoln Riley has 8 years and 90 million guaranteed remaining on his contract.

It’s not different at all.

 

[perseverare]

And on top of that schedule a lesser opponent.
Who does this cat think hd is Nick Saban?
He's out of his depth.

"USC head coach Lincoln Riley has said that he would consider dropping the annual Notre Dame-USC football game if it would help the Trojans win a national championsh"

SC ought drop football and use the faclities to house Ca. homeless vets!