Slightly OT - Need an explaination of Canadian University Athletic Scholarships

[binhamin]

Hopefully IIO or someone else knowledgeable in Canada reads this and can help. I'm looking for an explanation of what a Canadian University that's part of Usports can offer in the way of an athletic scholarship? If you could compare it to an NCAA division and give as much info as you can, I'd appreciate it.

 

[IrishInOntario]

I can tell you all about it... I was the recruiting coordinator for a CIS football program.

Canadian univeraity athletics are divided into regions. The western part of the country, BC, Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Manitoba play in the Canada West conference. Ontatio has its own conference (OUA), Quebec has its own conference and the Maritime provinces in the East have their own as well.

The first thing to understand is that you're going to get a pretty damn good and credible education at any Canadian school. We don't have that State school vs private school dynamic where one education is kuch better than others. Obvioualy there are specialty programs at each school and if you told me which you are interested in, or what you're interested in studying, I could steer you in a direction... There are also elitr (top 20 in the world) schools such as McGill and the University of Toronto, but there are a lot of top 150 (worldwide) type schools in Canada.

The second you need to know is that Canadian education is far cheaper than American education because we keep it affordable. That said, the $7000- $8000 (Canadian) per year Canadian citizens pay to attend most school (Quebec residents in Quebec are even cheaper) is not extended to foreigners. We had several Americans play for us during my years in Ottawa, and most of them were paying about $18,000 per year for school (Canadian) before their scholarship.

As for scholarships awarded to academica, there are a variety of entrance scholarships ranging from $1000- $10,000 and even $12,000 to applicants, but those differ from school-to-school.

We do not offer full ride athletic scholarships, but rather, partial bursaries. In Ontario for example, schools can offer up to $4,500 per year (roughly 50%to 60%) of the annual tuition cost (for Canadians). Other conferences do it a little differently, but I can tell you that our Americans were never close to fully covered. Usually about 25%-40% depending on thw school, the sport and what kind of academics the apllicant has.

I can give you a ton of specific details on specific questions you may have.

Overall, I'd expect a 4-year degree at a Canadian University to cost an American in the neighbourhood of $80,000-$90,000 (Canadian) before scholarships and $50,000- $60,000 post scholarships.

Nowhere close to a full ride unless you can fomd some deep pockets on boosters that can help out (that happens a lot here), but much, much cheaper for the quality of education you get than the coat of most U.S. schools that offer a similar quality degree.

Hope that helps!

 

[IrishInOntario]

Hopefully IIO or someone else knowledgeable in Canada reads this and can help. I'm looking for an explanation of what a Canadian University that's part of Usports can offer in the way of an athletic scholarship? If you could compare it to an NCAA division and give as much info as you can, I'd appreciate it.

As for the comparison to the NCAA, it on the sport and the school. High end football programs and facilities are very much 1-AA, but in basketball for example the competiton can be pretty damn good. Carleton University for example, in Ottawa, routinely competes with and even beats NCAA tourney quality teams. They have a mid-major type bball program and an elite, elite coach who has turned down many American jobs.

Quality of coaching ranges depending on school and sport. Obviously we have some great hockey coaches and solid soccer and basketball coaches. Football is hit or miss... For example, thr head coach at the University of Ottawa, who I worked under, was a longtime assistant at Penn State, Wake Forest and Florida (where he recruited and coached Emmitt Smith, before head to the CFL for a decade as a coordinator. He ultimately turned down a lesser position as an assitant with the Detroit Lions to become his own boss at his alma mater (Ottawa). There are other really good coaches out there and some average ones as well.

 

[Nocalirish]

Have any canadian college football players gone strait to the NFL and become stars?

 

[BGI User 1596]

Have any canadian college football players gone strait to the NFL and become stars?

Mike Schad Queens University 1st round .....I use to do summer workouts with him.

 

[binhamin]

Thanks for the info IIO. My daughter plays basketball and the head coach at UAlberta recently reached out to talk with her. I'm trying to see where it fits in as far as some of the other schools in play. She has plenty of interest from several DIIIs, a couple of DIIs, some NAIAs, and the way things shake out with recruiting, a DI could always offer late (there's still a couple of months to go before the basketball NLI date). Fingers crossed.

 

[IrishInOntario]

Thanks for the info IIO. My daughter plays basketball and the head coach at UAlberta recently reached out to talk with her. I'm trying to see where it fits in as far as some of the other schools in play. She has plenty of interest from several DIIIs, a couple of DIIs, some NAIAs, and the way things shake out with recruiting, a DI could always offer late (there's still a couple of months to go before the basketball NLI date). Fingers crossed.

That's great for her! A D-1 full ride would be excellent I wish you all the best and hope one comes. UofA is an excellent school, especially with regards to engineering and some other faculties there. I ha e a good friend who coaches on the football staff. She'd get a damn good education out there in Edmonton.

 

[NDskins]

IIO you forgot to mention UofA is COLD!!!!! Block heater needed to help start your car cold.

 

[IrishInOntario]

IIO you forgot to mention UofA is COLD!!!!! Block heater needed to help start your car cold.

Hahaha good point Skins... I guess when you were born and raised in Northern Ontario you assume everyone would realize that winter in Northern Alberta is COLD. Like -20 to -40 cold! That said, most Canadian schools have either underground walkways or overhead passages connecting the campus these days to limit the exposure to the weather the students face.

 

[hayaka]

Hahaha good point Skins... I guess when you were born and raised in Northern Ontario you assume everyone would realize that winter in Northern Alberta is COLD. Like -20 to -40 cold! That said, most Canadian schools have either underground walkways or overhead passages connecting the campus these days to limit the exposure to the weather the students face.

I never would have thought of that.

Thanks, for your input, IIO. I lurk here primarily to read your posts. I almost always learn something new.

 

[IrishHerb]

I never would have thought of that.

Thanks, for your input, IIO. I lurk here primarily to read your posts. I almost always learn something new.

Regarding that ... "That said, most Canadian schools have either underground walkways or overhead passages connecting the campus these days to limit the exposure to the weather the students face", I've known that some residential schools for the deaf in the northern United States have similar plans ... they have undergound or covered walkways between dorms, classrooms, dining halls and gyms for their students to shelter them from the cold winters.

 

[perseverare]

strange none of the 'libs' feel compelled to attack this thread.