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SIAP: LB Pete Werner Decommits

Speaking of Urban... in a few years Harbaugh is going to own O$U and JH is a great example of what coaching can do. Here he is in his 2nd year at UM and he goes toe-to-toe with one of the best programs in the country, in Columbus using the crap that Hoke left him. Once he has a few recruiting classes under his belt watch out!

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Our administration may quite possibly be the worst in the country. I dont know who runs PR? but they must be the slowest most ill informed group of people in all of college football! On top of that they paid Weis a huge buyout. Kelly possibly, if they do what they should. Who in the F--- is signing off on this? Jenkins? If so just clean house already! Or join the ivy league so us old timers disgusted by your lack of excellence on and off the field can move on.
There is no explantion one can give as to why we are not as competitive as Stanford. Aside from a lame duck coach. For gods sake dont reference this yr. to counter! We as a fanbase would gladly trade our 7 yr. records! At least if we had Shaw and a RB avg. 11 a carry we know his identity! He would POUND it to the tune of more than 17 times that game. He wouldnt suddenly start slinging the rock!

ND Admin can give a rats ass about the fan base. ND Admin in a lot of ways is very arrogant - kind of like the coach BK. Wish there was 1 more game at home this season - so Jack and Jenkins could hear the chorus of boo's directed at BK and them - the ND Admin - for their lack of stewardship towards the football program.

If BK hangs on for another year - the first game BK does what BK does - makes bad in game decisions or his units are underperforming because their not prepared - the Chorus of Boo's at ND stadium will start to ring out / ring out / and then they will finally start to take notice that things may need changing.

That their coach BK really is a lame duck.

This final recruiting season will be interesting. How many more studs decommit ?
 
Football is just irrelevant at ND and now ND is irrelevant to college football.
For failure they have the perfect duo!
 
Won't be surprised at a few decommits this year, with a 4-8 record.
 
wait a minute. All we do is bitch about talent development and sing hosannahs at the feet of coaches who win with lesser rated recruits. Now we lose a highly regarded kid and there's not enough room on the ledge.

Seems to me if we get the coach we prefer, any one of them, he'll develop talent and recruiting ranks won't matter
 
Harbaugh has yet to win any thing of substance. I hope that continues. Meyer and Saban I believe will always be way ahead of Harbaugh.

Go Irish! Fire them all!!!!!!!!!
Of any substance? Really he has won double digit games 5 college seasons in a row! Citrus and an Orange bowl! Just went toe to toe with Ohio st. Who we got smoked by! Has 2 new years 6 bowl wins Kelly 0
Jesus u set the bar high.
 
If I were a recruit that happen to venture here; I would decommit myself! This board has gone over the ledge of the tallest building in the world. Negativity at light speed and I'm a part of it too! We'll see how many of these players really want the ND experience and education. I thought Werner would lead the class to ND. He proved me wrong yet again this year. I'm hoping that he changes his mind again.
 
If I were a recruit that happen to venture here; I would decommit myself! This board has gone over the ledge of the tallest building in the world. Negativity at light speed and I'm a part of it too! We'll see how many of these players really want the ND experience and education. I thought Werner would lead the class to ND. He proved me wrong yet again this year. I'm hoping that he changes his mind again.

Unfortunately, you are right Ara. I know I went over the edge awhile ago and it pains me to see ND in this predicament.

The problem for ND though is not this type of online banter - we carry no significance other than what you state about recruits who may come over to this sight and see all the negativity and then yes that is not good.

But, the real problem for ND is the media - who are now beginning to run w/ negative type stories related to this past season and BK's questionable future at ND ? ND Admin will have to come out at least 1 more time to put out a final say as to what will be for 2017.

I am going to try and take a break and check back in when I hear a final - yea or ney - in regards to BK.
 
Speaking of Urban... in a few years Harbaugh is going to own O$U and JH is a great example of what coaching can do. Here he is in his 2nd year at UM and he goes toe-to-toe with one of the best programs in the country, in Columbus using the crap that Hoke left him. Once he has a few recruiting classes under his belt watch out!

Are you serious ? Harbaugh inherited a ton of talent (43 seniors) - many will be drafted in the 1st few rounds of the NFL draft - Lewis, Butt, Peppers.......etc. Urban started the year with 44 kids with freshman eligibility that never played a down of CF. This was suppose to be Harbaugh's year. And with the off-the-charts 2017 class Urban has coming in, well, you get the idea. That class will blow away 247 composites all-time average/recruit rating set by Alabama

Harbaugh proved he's no Urban Saturday. Booger-eater had a 17-7 lead late in the 3rd quarter with the ball and choked. From the 6:30 mark of the 3rd to the end, OSU outgained the Spooner 215 to 76 yards. CHOKE CHOKE CHOKE ! All he did was blame it on the refs. He's no Urban - not even close !

And here's the play he whined about so hard in his presser. Yeah, he's going to own OSU !!!!

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More strikes against Kelly. When Jeter bailed he said he had to make an appt. to see Kelly but Harwaaa had an open door policy. More decommits will follow soon if Kelly is not fired. Schiano is still out there.
 
LOL. You mean Urban Meyer, 61-5, 3 national titles, about to make the playoffs again, vs. Jim Harbaugh and 0 titles? Harbaugh's 43 seniors couldn't beat tOSU's freshmen this year. As for talent, tOSU is about to bring in the highest rated class in 247's history, with 6 5*'s now and a realistic shot at 3-4 more, all with less players than Alabama's current class. Don't worry about the talent at tOSU.

Speaking of Urban... in a few years Harbaugh is going to own O$U and JH is a great example of what coaching can do. Here he is in his 2nd year at UM and he goes toe-to-toe with one of the best programs in the country, in Columbus using the crap that Hoke left him. Once he has a few recruiting classes under his belt watch out!
 
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so there was a drone conveniently hovering above the exact spot where Barrett was tackled?
 
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JH inherited the 2012 class ranked #7 which was loaded with their entire OL this year. 2013 class was ranked #5. 2014 class only had 16 commits but Peppers was in that class. JH had a ton of talent left for him by Hoke when he came on-board. He looses 43 of them this year!
Thanks for the back up.
 
More strikes against Kelly. When Jeter bailed he said he had to make an appt. to see Kelly but Harwaaa had an open door policy. More decommits will follow soon if Kelly is not fired. Schiano is still out there.

Weak. With Ara your appointment for a meeting had to be a week in advance. And there will be decoms if Kelly is fired
 
I had the pleasure of watching Pete Werner for the last three years and he's a good one but you can't blame him for decommitting from this cluster bleep defensive situation. I'm sure he won't be the last to look elsewhere.
 
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the Kid says no one at ND has contacted him since Sept.! imagine that?
Your wrong as usual..He has been contacted several times regarding studies courses and football things..This is normal for all incoming recruits..know your facts inagine your wrong facts,,,
 
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what the kid has mentioned; take it up with him

TOS thread:
"Someone close to Pete, stated that "ND contacted him once since September,", if this true it just plain sad"

junk mail by admissions or other does not count as recruiting! Kelly stopped recruiting months ago! he was busy looking for employ!

continually changing ID's won't fool! anyone.
get outta town!
 
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Sorry, this is the "too scared to make a change" philosophy. I have no doubts that without exaggerating more than 50 coaches out there that could have won 4 games this year. I also convinced there are at least 20 and probably more, that could win 8 games a year.

Kelly has proven to be a very average football coach so worst case scenario we hire another average coach.
NO.....
Worst case scenario is we do nothing and allow this ****ing circus to continue.
 
And in other news, 2017 LB Antjuan Simmons, 4 star prospect, has de-committed from Ohio State.

Expect Michigan, ND, and MSU to be in a battle.
 
And in other news, 2017 LB Antjuan Simmons, 4 star prospect, has de-committed from Ohio State.

Expect Michigan, ND, and MSU to be in a battle.


yep, his composite is not up to grade to remain on the tOSU commit list.
 
And in other news, 2017 LB Antjuan Simmons, 4 star prospect, has de-committed from Ohio State.

Expect Michigan, ND, and MSU to be in a battle.
Know your facts,,,This player has not made up his mind..Please get facts...
 
junk mail from administrations? the kid said he will consider only those teams that recruit him.

wake up! tell your bro, just leave.
 
Are you serious ? Harbaugh inherited a ton of talent (43 seniors) - many will be drafted in the 1st few rounds of the NFL draft - Lewis, Butt, Peppers.......etc. Urban started the year with 44 kids with freshman eligibility that never played a down of CF. This was suppose to be Harbaugh's year. And with the off-the-charts 2017 class Urban has coming in, well, you get the idea. That class will blow away 247 composites all-time average/recruit rating set by Alabama

Harbaugh proved he's no Urban Saturday. Booger-eater had a 17-7 lead late in the 3rd quarter with the ball and choked. From the 6:30 mark of the 3rd to the end, OSU outgained the Spooner 215 to 76 yards. CHOKE CHOKE CHOKE ! All he did was blame it on the refs. He's no Urban - not even close !

And here's the play he whined about so hard in his presser. Yeah, he's going to own OSU !!!!

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Only an idiotic, brainwashed bucknut would buy that photo, with that ridiculous angle, as evidence of a first down on that play, so thanks for outing yourself. While you're at it, why don't you compare the PI calls that went against UM, to the obvious missed PI calls that OSU got away with(thank the OSU fanboy backjudge for those gifts).

Here's the cliffs, in case people don't want to click through:
"Referees can move up through the ranks (for example, you can't do a varsity basketball game the first year you referee), and Schwarzel moved up to Division III football games in 1991. He covered games for the Ohio Conference, which includes colleges such as Marietta College and Capital University. In 1997, Schwarzel began doing MAC games, and in 2002 he refereed his first Big 10 game.

'This year, I did my first full schedule in the Big 10,' he said. Schwarzel was an Ohio State fan growing up, and said he was excited to be on the field for the Ohio State/Texas game, which featured (at the time) the top-ranked team in the country against the second-ranked team.

His crew worked the Ohio State/Michigan game this fall, which also featured the two top-ranked teams at the time, but Schwarzel was not allowed to work the huge game because he is from Ohio."

Somewhat strange that he was banned from officiating the game in the past, but this year was allowed. Of Course if the situation were reversed and it was a Michigan fanboy that had been so overtly inconsistent against OSU, I'm sure the bucks would be gracious in defeat, I'm sure of it...

The truth is that Michigan dominated that game, and even with 3 extremely costly mistakes were in a great position to secure a win until the refs swooped in and saved the bucks from defeat, but to act like the bucks won because of Urban's awesome coaching is simply insane. There's a reason that everyone outside of the ohio fanbase(and even many within it, there are some who aren't complete morons) acknowledge that Michigan got a shaft job from the refs.
 
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Quit your crying. Dick Witvoet, noted UM fan growing up, has worked as head ref for many UM games over the years. UM lost 2 B1G games, including choking against OSU, and is 3rd in the division. Deal with it. Harbaugh 0-2 vs. Meyer.
 
Coach Booger was hired to beat OSU and he is 0 for.
The pregame shots of him with cleats and gloves is comical. He is a major league DB.
There is a sports talk host in Boston who played with him in the NFL and said he was despised by his team mates.
 
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