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Seems like time to move on to Duke

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Colzie out. JT probably. That’s 1 & 2 on that spot.

Do we see James? Faison?

Rest seem set. I think MF was surprised by the question at his press conference that Marist had zero tackles. I don’t really remember seeing him miss anything.
 
Colzie out. JT probably. That’s 1 & 2 on that spot.

Do we see James? Faison?

Rest seem set. I think MF was surprised by the question at his press conference that Marist had zero tackles. I don’t really remember seeing him miss anything.
Colzie has been out

probably 4 wrs and we’ll either have 2 rbs or 2 tes in on every play, minimum 3 wr sets
 
Elko will have his team ready. If he was at ND as head coach they’d be 5-0. Freeman is the poplar guy but can’t produce results. Five losses already. Wow
 
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Time to get ready for next year. Nobody serious cares about bowl games. Hartman and Alt won’t play anyways. Play the frosh and get ready for ATM. Fire Golden and Al Washington like I said last year at this time. Play for the playoffs, join a conference, or build for the future.
 
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Let the freshman play! Flores and Greathouse with Tyree and Merriweather!!!
I like that idea. I would like to see those other two. Hearing they got some wheels. Maybe Tobias just massively grows with reps.
 
Elko will have his team ready. If he was at ND as head coach they’d be 5-0. Freeman is the poplar guy but can’t produce results. Five losses already.

Dragging us back. Haha. We gotta move on 23! 😎

If it makes ya feel better, Kirby Smart lost 10 games his first 3 years and 14 his first 5.

He won a title his 6th year. I lived in Ga during that time. The fans all wanted him gone. He made stupid mistakes. I remember the pitch forks over a few time management issues the first two years.

Any UGA FAN would have taken another coach after year 4. But he kept learning and recruiting. He found out that recruiting is the key.

Add a top saftey we win that game. Add a top WR. We win that game.

Just stay with him a few more years. He is the guy.
 
Time to get ready for next year. Nobody serious cares about bowl games. Hartman and Alt won’t play anyways. Play the frosh and get ready for ATM. Fire Golden and Al Washington like I said last year at this time. Play for the playoffs, join a conference, or build for the future.
Pat is proving himself right about you, you are dumb.
 
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Pat is proving himself right about you, you are dumb.
I know it’s hard for you to understand but everything I wrote is a fact. Alt will not play in a bowl game. We are highly unlikely to make the playoffs this year with all the potential 12-0 and 11-1 teams. While I am still happy we have him, Hartman was a waste bc we made cheap off season coaching hires. Golden and Washington were retained but they are the bottom feeders. 2024 opens the door to the 12 team playoff and ND needs some forethought about making a run with that cup cake schedule next season.
 
I know it’s hard for you to understand but everything I wrote is a fact. Alt will not play in a bowl game. We are highly unlikely to make the playoffs this year with all the potential 12-0 and 11-1 teams. While I am still happy we have him, Hartman was a waste bc we made cheap off season coaching hires. Golden and Washington were retained but they are the bottom feeders. 2024 opens the door to the 12 team playoff and ND needs some forethought about making a run with that cup cake schedule next season.
If ND wins out and finishes 11-1, they are one of the 4 in.

When Hartman transferred, you literally started a thread on this forum "Sammie Heisman", and now he was a waste because of cheap coaching hires?

Opening at Texas A&M, home against FSU and Duke, and at USC is not a cupcake schedule. that's 2 top 10 maybe top 5 teams and at least 2 top 25 teams.

Sure let's just pack the rest of the year in and do a major disservice to the seniors and graduate students on the roster. Let's just tell them:

Hey guys, we lost to OSU on the final play of the game, unfortunately we don't care about winning the rest of our games, we are looking toward the future, so some of you seniors and graduate students won't be playing the rest of the year, but thanks for all your hard work the past 4-5 years.

You clearly never played organized sports, and if you did, you kept the bench warm. That or you just have a loser mentality.
 
Colzie is not our number 2, both freshman have passed him. Thomas being out hurts but we still have 4 quality wide receivers.
 
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I know it’s hard for you to understand but everything I wrote is a fact. Alt will not play in a bowl game. We are highly unlikely to make the playoffs this year with all the potential 12-0 and 11-1 teams. While I am still happy we have him, Hartman was a waste bc we made cheap off season coaching hires. Golden and Washington were retained but they are the bottom feeders. 2024 opens the door to the 12 team playoff and ND needs some forethought about making a run with that cup cake schedule next season.
This is where the lack of a conference championship game hurts us. Even if we finish with one loss, we will be the last choice to get in with other schools with identical records.
 
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I know it’s hard for you to understand but everything I wrote is a fact. Alt will not play in a bowl game. We are highly unlikely to make the playoffs this year with all the potential 12-0 and 11-1 teams. While I am still happy we have him, Hartman was a waste bc we made cheap off season coaching hires. Golden and Washington were retained but they are the bottom feeders. 2024 opens the door to the 12 team playoff and ND needs some forethought about making a run with that cup cake schedule next season.
Grow up.
 
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I said before the season started Duke wouldn't be a push over. I don't envision this to be a cakewalk. But Notre Dame represents the best team Duke will have played in their first six games. Elko has turned them around quickly. THey were terrible the last two years of Cutcliffe being coach. But, 9-4 last year, bowl win vs Central Florida. This year, 5-0 with a resounding win over Clemson. You can argue their competition outside of Clemson has been subpar (and it has) but they've basically blown out every one on their schedule.

There will be ALOT of Notre Dame fans at Wallace Wade. There was in 2019. I got my tickets a few weeks ago after Duke beat Clemson because I thought there was a very good chance both the Irish and Duke would be undefeated, or at worst each have one loss. This is an important rebound game for the Irish, mentally as much as physical. This is about maintaining focus, and putting last week in the rear view. Perhaps, in comparison to last year with Marshall being the follow up game to OSU, playing a quality opponent in a big game is more beneficial. I think they thought they could roll over Marshall last year and they were wrong. This about a chance to beat a quality top 15 opponent on the road. Duke isn't going to just lay down. They have a dual threat QB, and a physical defense.

For Duke, this like a Super Bowl of sorts with it being at home, playing Notre Dame and Gameday coming to Durham for the first time ever for football. But, their stock will never be higher for all of the fanfare surrounding the game and they deserve the recognition because they are a good football team.
 
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I know it’s hard for you to understand but everything I wrote is a fact. Alt will not play in a bowl game. We are highly unlikely to make the playoffs this year with all the potential 12-0 and 11-1 teams. While I am still happy we have him, Hartman was a waste bc we made cheap off season coaching hires. Golden and Washington were retained but they are the bottom feeders. 2024 opens the door to the 12 team playoff and ND needs some forethought about making a run with that cup cake schedule next season.
Exactly how was Hartman a waste ?

in case you were unaware of it, “winning” attracts recruits, “losing” has them go elsewhere.

Hartman is head and shoulders above the other QB’s.
We were lucky to get him.

What does Hartman and his play at QB have to do with Golden and Washington ?
 
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This is where the lack of a conference championship game hurts us. Even if we finish with one loss, we will be the last choice to get in with other schools with identical records.
Why do so many posters assume that if we were in a conference that we would win the conference championship game ?

Why do so many NON-ND grads want ND to join a conference ?

With a 12 team CFP what’s the upside versus the negatives ?

Swarbrick outlined the two factors that would force ND to join a conference and neither are on the horizon
 
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I said before the season started Duke wouldn't be a push over. I don't envision this to be a cakewalk. But Notre Dame represents the best team Duke will have played in their first six games. Elko has turned them around quickly. THey were terrible the last two years of Cutcliffe being coach. But, 9-4 last year, bowl win vs Central Florida. This year, 5-0 with a resounding win over Clemson. You can argue their competition outside of Clemson has been subpar (and it has) but they've basically blown out every one on their schedule.

There will be ALOT of Notre Dame fans at Wallace Wade. There was in 2019. I got my tickets a few weeks ago after Duke beat Clemson because I thought there was a very good chance both the Irish and Duke would be undefeated, or at worst each have one loss. This is an important rebound game for the Irish, mentally as much as physical. This is about maintaining focus, and putting last week in the rear view. Perhaps, in comparison to last year with Marshall being the follow up game to OSU, playing a quality opponent in a big game is more beneficial. I think they thought they could roll over Marshall last year and they were wrong. This about a chance to beat a quality top 15 opponent on the road. Duke isn't going to just lay down. They have a dual threat QB, and a physical defense.

For Duke, this like a Super Bowl of sorts with it being at home, playing Notre Dame and Gameday coming to Durham for the first time ever for football. But, their stock will never be higher for all of the fanfare surrounding the game and they deserve the recognition because they are a good football team.
Notre Dame is a 5.5 road favorite for a reason. Better football players, collectively. Does this guarantee a win for Notre Dame? Of course not. Notre Dame should win, and I strongly believe they will.

This paralysis of analysis of when games are played, IMO, is over blown. I believe Notre Dame will be ready to play, and will play well. But this is why we watch, because there are no guarantees in sports. It's real reality TV.
 
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Notre Dame is a 5.5 road favorite for a reason. Better football players, collectively. Does this guarantee a win for Notre Dame? Of course not. Notre Dame should win, and I strongly believe they will.

This paralysis of analysis of when games are played, IMO, is over blown. I believe Notre Dame will be ready to play, and will play well. But this is why we watch, because there are no guarantees in sports. It's real reality TV.
I think they will be ready to go, I think this will be a motivated group.
 
Time to get ready for next year. Nobody serious cares about bowl games. Hartman and Alt won’t play anyways. Play the frosh and get ready for ATM. Fire Golden and Al Washington like I said last year at this time. Play for the playoffs, join a conference, or build for the future.
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Time to get ready for next year. Nobody serious cares about bowl games. Hartman and Alt won’t play anyways. Play the frosh and get ready for ATM. Fire Golden and Al Washington like I said last year at this time. Play for the playoffs, join a conference, or build for the future.
i agree with all of this!
 
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This is where the lack of a conference championship game hurts us. Even if we finish with one loss, we will be the last choice to get in with other schools with identical records.
If ND beats USC and USC wins their conference championship, with its only loss to ND, ND gets in over USC.

If FSU falters and loses 1 game, and wins their conference championship with 1 loss, ND gets in over FSU.

The SEC is getting one team in this year, BiG is getting 1 team in this year.

That leaves 2 spots. How many times have we seen multiple teams undefeated through 7-8 weeks into the season, only to watch chaos ensue as dominos begin to fall.

ND needs to focus on winning their remaining games.
 
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Time to get ready for next year. Nobody serious cares about bowl games. Hartman and Alt won’t play anyways. Play the frosh and get ready for ATM. Fire Golden and Al Washington like I said last year at this time. Play for the playoffs, join a conference, or build for the future.
And replace them with whom ?

What does “Time to get ready for next year“ mean ?

And next year are you going to say the same thing ?

The time is NOW, and the players want to win every game this year.

You wouldn’t know that because you’re not a competitor, you’re a QUITTER !
 
If ND beats USC and USC wins their conference championship, with its only loss to ND, ND gets in over USC.

If FSU falters and loses 1 game, and wins their conference championship with 1 loss, ND gets in over FSU.

The SEC is getting one team in this year, BiG is getting 1 team in this year.

That leaves 2 spots. How many times have we seen multiple teams undefeated through 7-8 weeks into the season, only to watch chaos ensue as dominos begin to fall.

ND needs to focus on winning their remaining games.
I personally only see one team going undefeated and that's UGA. The whole PAC 12 play each other. Texas might have a shot but I really believe Bama goes 9-3. That weakens their win. And the Big 12 is whacky. ACC. FSU is destined for a loss. Although right now Miami seems like the likely candidate and they are undefeated right now. ND just needs to rally. Win this wekend. then move on, etc. We could be looking at 2021 all over again where if certain things happen in December ND slides in. And this is a better tteam than the 2021 team.
 
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I personally only see one team going undefeated and that's UGA. The whole PAC 12 play each other. Texas might have a shot but I really believe Bama goes 9-3. That weakens their win. And the Big 12 is whacky. ACC. FSU is destined for a loss. Although right now Miami seems like the likely candidate and they are undefeated right now. ND just needs to rally. Win this wekend. then move on, etc. We could be looking at 2021 all over again where if certain things happen in December ND slides in. And this is a better tteam than the 2021 team.
And I even have my doubts about them. There's more parity in today's CF and just really hard to go undefeated especially with the Portal and NIL kicking in
 
And I even have my doubts about them. There's more parity in today's CF and just really hard to go undefeated especially with the Portal and NIL kicking in
The schedule is really soft. And a loss in the SEC title game would put two from the SEC in. You gotta root for them to go undefeated or the whole SEC to have 2 losses.
 
If ND wins out and finishes 11-1, they are one of the 4 in.

When Hartman transferred, you literally started a thread on this forum "Sammie Heisman", and now he was a waste because of cheap coaching hires?

Opening at Texas A&M, home against FSU and Duke, and at USC is not a cupcake schedule. that's 2 top 10 maybe top 5 teams and at least 2 top 25 teams.

Sure let's just pack the rest of the year in and do a major disservice to the seniors and graduate students on the roster. Let's just tell them:

Hey guys, we lost to OSU on the final play of the game, unfortunately we don't care about winning the rest of our games, we are looking toward the future, so some of you seniors and graduate students won't be playing the rest of the year, but thanks for all your hard work the past 4-5 years.

You clearly never played organized sports, and if you did, you kept the bench warm. That or you just have a loser mentality.
 
If ND beats USC and USC wins their conference championship, with its only loss to ND, ND gets in over USC.

If FSU falters and loses 1 game, and wins their conference championship with 1 loss, ND gets in over FSU.

The SEC is getting one team in this year, BiG is getting 1 team in this year.

That leaves 2 spots. How many times have we seen multiple teams undefeated through 7-8 weeks into the season, only to watch chaos ensue as dominos begin to fall.

ND needs to focus on winning their remaining games.
 
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