Sark Play calling
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OSU was in the more favorable alignment. It wasn’t execution so much.
Shotgun pistol toss from the 1 yd line is as criminal as it can get.
The play calling was mystifying, and too cute by half. The Texas OL averages 324 lbs. If you cannot score from the 1 yd line by running inside the tackles with that much size, you don't deserve to win. A toss play to the outside could score but it also risks a big loss, and that is exactly what happened. Sometimes you have to keep it simple.
its called getting cute when simple is better
he seems to have never learned that
the Texas O line had a power advantage; use it
Well, he's a child of Norm Chow and BYU's innovative passing offenses of the 80s and 90s. Those are his roots. Live by the sword die by the sword.
It wasn’t a pass play that killed them, it was a sweep for a huge loss
I am having this exact debate with a very intelligent fan. He claims it was execution and not 2nd guess the call. I disagree on a statistical point.
To his point, we don't have a database of analytics. But I bet our anecdotal predictions match them...especially on going power north-south running on 1st and goal. And execution has nuances, but ultimately operate within a statistical view.
Not to over analyze, but what is good execution? A player does exactly what he is supposed, but so does the opponent. If one makes the play, is that better execution?
Again, the point is...making the play is correlated to running certain plays. Yes, Sark's call sometimes work. We get the proverbial: hey, if it worked we'd be saluting his brilliance...but odds are it wouldn't work, in this case, resulting in serious loss of yards changing his options.
Lastly, putting aside statistics, it's now causal physics...the longer a play runs and the longer the distance, all things being equal, the more opportunity for an error by the offense...so what not take the shortest path to the end zone with minimum time and complexity?
Again, sorry for the long winded response. I'm no expert, but try to learn and see the nuances. In summary: that play was on Sark...and a great Ohio State D that took his gift.
Massive? While Knapp is light the ND offensive line is similar and on average taller.
It was 1st and goal from the one. The basic, easy argument being not the time to get cute, run it four times, straight ahead, especially with Texas's elite OL. Don't pass it, don't pitch it, don't get creative. Given how truly disastrous that set of downs went for Texas, after how easily they marched right back down the field and were ready to tie the score, hard to argue with anything but power running it four straight times.
Heck the refs even called two pass interferences in the end zone, so as to help arrange this extremely felicitous situation shall we say, but also as if to say, and the football gods were whispering, you're not going to pass for the TD. We want to you score, but you're going to have to do it on the ground, the old school way! So here you go, 1st and goal from the one. Now tie this sucker up and don't disappoint us, we are the football gods. Capricious, yes. Petulant, yes. But also capable of the most timely munificence when the spirit moves us. So heed this particular intervention on your behalf. Otherwise that's all you'll ever be, seven win sark...
Heck the refs even called two pass interferences in the end zone, so as to help arrange this extremely felicitous situation shall we say, but also as if to say, and the football gods were whispering, you're not going to pass for the TD. We want to you score, but you're going to have to do it on the ground, the old school way! So here you go, 1st and goal from the one. Now tie this sucker up and don't disappoint us, we are the football gods. Capricious, yes. Petulant, yes. But also capable of the most timely munificence when the spirit moves us. So heed this particular intervention on your behalf. Otherwise that's all you'll ever be, seven win sark...
For me it was more of the execution. Downs made a great play. I dont like the form they ran out of though. Use a lead blocker or a form like they used on first and goal. More guys were down on the line and ohio st was more packed in
It's very difficult to have sustained success in this day and age running the ball laterally especially against a quality defense. They're too athletic and too fast. The days of "student body right" are a thing of the past. Absolutely hate the shotgun in short yardage. Sometimes the really smart offensive minds and Sark is one of them overthink it in my opinion. ND rarely goes under center but three times this year when they have they've run jet sweeps with Thomas and all three were successful including a big first down Thursday night. Would love to see them show that same look against OSU but create something else off the motion.
get cute and lose
power run it right ahead. You have a first and goal at the ONE.
shotgun on first and goal at the one is a stupid formation. That takes the worry of a QB sneak and allows the defense flexibility.
Running from a shotgun is extra hard and has more chances of something going wrong.
First down you load up and ram it down their throats. You got a good chance to score and that also works on a D's morale when you ram it in.
Running from a shotgun is extra hard and has more chances of something going wrong.
First down you load up and ram it down their throats. You got a good chance to score and that also works on a D's morale when you ram it in.
and allows the D to easily shoot someone in and sack your ass
with such a short field and congested area, the shotgun is a dumb formation
