Reports coming out that ND star player Jewell Loyd is going pro
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This year was supposed to be the rebuilding year, and we were in a winable game against UCONN. Inexperience was the difference in the game. This puts us back to square one in rebuilding.
Lack of parity in the game puts us at elite eight or final four, but we don't get that last step with such a major leader leaving the team.
I was just talking this morning about my doubts that B. Stewart leaves UCONN. WNBA, in my opinion, just doesn't have the salaries to draw players to leave good schools early. I guess I was wrong.
I wish Jewell the best and all, but this is the biggest kick in the gut I've ever felt as a fan of this team.
Lack of parity in the game puts us at elite eight or final four, but we don't get that last step with such a major leader leaving the team.
I was just talking this morning about my doubts that B. Stewart leaves UCONN. WNBA, in my opinion, just doesn't have the salaries to draw players to leave good schools early. I guess I was wrong.
I wish Jewell the best and all, but this is the biggest kick in the gut I've ever felt as a fan of this team.
Ray, agree totally with all of your points. I must say I am very disappointed. Who watches the WNBA anyway? The only possibly good outcome is that the offense will be more well-rounded next year by not having to rely on her as heavily as they have. I would make a similar comment re: the mens' team and Jerian Grant. CoolIrish, what say ye?
This doesn't make any sense. Women don't make enough in the pros to make this worth not getting your degree. I think the top pros only make 100k or so. To leave and have to pay for your last year in order to graduate would be expensive. There must be something else behind the story.
Sunday night I guaranteed UConn would win the national title game by 10+ points. Subsequently, I was told I'm just too stupid to understand that that wasn't going to be the case. Then I heard the ole, "they put their jersey on the same way ND does," jargon. Jewel proved me right and I thank her. She like anyone with a brain knows that no one is beating UConn, so why not start getting paid?
This post was edited on 4/8 11:21 PM by TurnoverMachine
This post was edited on 4/8 11:21 PM by TurnoverMachine
Wow, turnover you are the man.....predicting a UConn win by 10 points.....how the hell do you be so good?
Not buying JL leaving as yet....
Not buying JL leaving as yet....
They don't make anywhere near what the men make but they make more than $100 grand/year. A player of Loyd's caliber can play in the WNBA and then for a team in Europe. The best players make around a million per year.
Just thinking .Is Lloyd leaving because she would be a top 3 pick this year ? Next year B. Stewart will be # 1 pick.? ,ND will be better next year ,but also ,many of the girls' college programs have a lot of young top - flight stars and will also be a lot better too , like, North Carolina ,South Carolina ,etc .
McGraw has a great program and does a fantastic job .But it is so hard to see the ND girls reaching the final 4 every year .especially with the expected improvement of SC,Duke,NC and others .The journey even with Lloyd will be tougher . The games this year have been closer .Last season ,with McBride and Achonwa ,ND routinely routed top 10 teams by 25 or more points. Seems like we are taking a little step backwards losing Achonwa,and 3 first team All- Americans in McBride,Diggins,and now Lloyd . Those 4 are tremendous losses .A few players have to step up .As good as Allen is at point guard ,,I don't think she is at that upper level,yet.
We have 3 top 20 players who are guards .It is still going to be tough to have an immediate impact .
McGraw has a great program and does a fantastic job .But it is so hard to see the ND girls reaching the final 4 every year .especially with the expected improvement of SC,Duke,NC and others .The journey even with Lloyd will be tougher . The games this year have been closer .Last season ,with McBride and Achonwa ,ND routinely routed top 10 teams by 25 or more points. Seems like we are taking a little step backwards losing Achonwa,and 3 first team All- Americans in McBride,Diggins,and now Lloyd . Those 4 are tremendous losses .A few players have to step up .As good as Allen is at point guard ,,I don't think she is at that upper level,yet.
We have 3 top 20 players who are guards .It is still going to be tough to have an immediate impact .
She like anyone with a brain knows that no one is beating UConn, so why not start getting paid?
I have to agree with that.
I have to agree with that.
No kidding. ND played a rather poor game against UConn the other night IMO. We have a huge number of turnovers, missed a ton of easy shots and let UConn get too many offensive boards. Yet we lost by ten. If ND plays its "A" game against UConn, instead of its "C" game, we win that game.
I have no problem with any student taking a half million dollar/year payday TODAY when they can always finish up their degree later. She could blow out her knee and the contract would no longer be available. Better to grab that ring while it is being offered.
I disagree that "no one could beat UConn". With better shooting and fewer turnovers, ND could have won the game Tuesday. Stanford showed the world this season that the Huskies are human, and ND is a better team than Stanford.
True enough, but UConn played its "C" game as well. Missed a ton of easy open shots. If both teams played their A games, UConn still wins by ten.
That's too bad.
I didn't realize until now that these WNBA stars make so much more money overseas. Apparently Diana Taurasi has just recently announced that she's being paid by her Russian team to sit out this WNBA season. Her salary in Russia is $1.5 million. Her WNBA salary is $107,000.
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I didn't realize until now that these WNBA stars make so much more money overseas. Apparently Diana Taurasi has just recently announced that she's being paid by her Russian team to sit out this WNBA season. Her salary in Russia is $1.5 million. Her WNBA salary is $107,000.
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Uconn actually played one of the worse games of the season. I would say they played their D-game and they will be even better next year. I think Turner is going to turn into a great player next year and will be one of the top players in the Country her junior and senior year. Lloyd is making a good call to leave. Anything could happen but the chances of Uconn losing in the tournament are very slim next year. I like Lloyd but she was 4-18 vs Uconn and shot 34.5% for the tourney.... she shot the ball pretty bad actually. She can be the 1st pick in the WNBA draft and then go overseas and make another $500 k a year. Lets all be honest here... who wouldn't leave school early if they were offered $500 k a year. She can always come back for her degree.
when I read about this new rule this past fall taking place this year about the girls being able to declare early I was wandering who would be the first to do it and open up the flood gates. if i'm geno of UConn or mulkey of Baylor or some other coach at a big time program then i'd be worried right now about how i'm going to keep my star players from pulling a loyd and leaving early. all it takes is one girl to open the flood gates and loyd might've done it. best of luck to loyd with her pro career
Loyd is gone. It's been confirmed by the University.
She's sure to be a top three pick in the draft. That will be the
fourth year in a row the Irish have had a #3 or better pick in
the WNBA draft. No one else has done this. Pretty good
for the program.
Loyd leaving hurts, but the Irish have the #3 recruiting class
coming in next year. All guards coming in. Players with GAME.
Loyd's experience would be great to have, but who's to say one
of these freshman won't be a star from day one?
We'll be ok.
She's sure to be a top three pick in the draft. That will be the
fourth year in a row the Irish have had a #3 or better pick in
the WNBA draft. No one else has done this. Pretty good
for the program.
Loyd leaving hurts, but the Irish have the #3 recruiting class
coming in next year. All guards coming in. Players with GAME.
Loyd's experience would be great to have, but who's to say one
of these freshman won't be a star from day one?
We'll be ok.
The three new girls are very physical and athletic. While all posted big offensive stats, they appear to be aggressive defensive minded types as well, especially Mabrey. In the McD game, she guarded and pretty much shut down the taller No1 ranked Samuelson. I also have also seen Patberg play and she has a very good all around game. Next year, the key will be perimeter defense, balanced scoring, fewer turnovers. If Raymer, Turner, Wesbeld continue to improve and they get some help from Nelson, the team could be better.
i'm tellin you all that the girl you're gonna wanna watch play is 2016 class guard Jackie young from here in Indiana. the top 15 overall prospect is a scoring freak that will be tough for opponents to shut down. don't know how often it happens in other states but she just became only the fifth high school player in indiana and first since steve alford in the early eighties to score a 1000 pts in one season. she needed 35 pts in the state finals to do it and scored 36 pts easily
Still hoping that we get some front court help in 2016 . Would help Turnet and Reimer a lot around the paint. . # 1 ranked 6'4" Lauren Cox ,# 2 ranked 6'3" Joyner Holmes ,both from Texas and # 6 ranked 6'4" Tori McCoy from Illinois have us high on their lists . It would be great to get at least 1 of the girls to go with the 2016 early commits #9 ranked 6'2" Erin Boley from Kentucky and #16 ranked 5'11" Jackie Young (great scorer ) from Indiana
Really want a top front court player with size .
Really want a top front court player with size .
The only thing left for JL to accomplish at the collegiate level would be to win a National Championship and I think in her heart of hearts she knows I ND is incapable of beating Uconn.
This notion that ND played a "C" game Tuesday night and the game was "winnable" is pure fools gold. What some are failing to acknowledge is that UConn played a D game and was ahead by 13 with a minute to go.
This notion that ND played a "C" game Tuesday night and the game was "winnable" is pure fools gold. What some are failing to acknowledge is that UConn played a D game and was ahead by 13 with a minute to go.
I just don't think Division 1 athletes think this way. They never believe an opponent is unbeatable.
Just not in their vocabulary.
didn't know where to put this but I just read elsewhere that it's being rumored that niele ivey is leaving McGraw's staff to take over the Georgia job as head coach. still remember when she helped lead our irish to the national title
This post was edited on 4/10 5:51 PM by coolirish9
This post was edited on 4/10 5:51 PM by coolirish9
Nonsense. You are the fool for making such a silly statement considering the number of unforced turnovers and missed shots ND had and how they played a fine defensive game. ND was down six several times with the chance to cut the lead and missed easy shots, layups or had unforced turnovers. I thought their defensive plan worked well. They held UCONN to 61 points by limiting Stewart. It was a great plan. UCONN did not play their D game. It wasn't their A game, but that was because Stewart was controlled.
As for next year, with Loyd, they would have been favorites to win it all.
As for next year, with Loyd, they would have been favorites to win it all.
You are the fool. No way would ND be favorites to win it all next year with Lloyd. Uconn will be even better in Stewart and Jeffersons senior year. Uconn missed a ton of easy and open shots they normally make. Tuck and Kia nurse looked terrible. Notre Dame missed a lot of easy and open shots also but Uconn did play a poor offensive game. The game overall was ugly for both teams. You don't know much about women's basketball if you don't think Uconn would be the favorites after winning 3 straight championships.
I think UConn would be favored again next year. But the gap is not that large between them and us, that they couldn't be beat. A lot of the missed shots by both sides could have to do with the defenses being played. Missed layups sometimes have to do with anticipation of defensive presence. Our passing turnovers trying to make great plays that wasn't there killed us. And the pressure applied by UConn guards in the half court offense was the difference. Without Lloyd next year, we could still be very good with our offense more balanced and perimeter defense improves.
Again, ND missed more easy shots they normally make than UCONN did (ND's starting guards shot less than 30 percent from field because of all those easy misses), and ND had more unforced turnovers than the Huskies. UCONN also hit several more threes than ND, not easy shots by any stretch. ND's defensive plan was also great, keying on Stewart and forcing UCONN to hit threes to win. If you can't recognize the degree to which McGraw's plan held UCONN in check, you need to find a less complicated sport to follow. Six points down and the ball several times: Hit one or two of those easy shots or don't turn the ball over, and the outcome could have been much different.
The same ND team with no graduating contributors and with Loyd would have been a favorite to return to the championship game and would probably have been a favorite to win it.
The same ND team with no graduating contributors and with Loyd would have been a favorite to return to the championship game and would probably have been a favorite to win it.
So ND's 53 point offensive output was due to ND missing open shots and Uconn's 63 point offensive output was due to ND's great defense?
Last year's loss was because Ochonwa was injured, the loss in December was because Turner was injured and now the most recent loss is because of "unforced" errors and missed layups. I have to believe it is that kind of delusional rationalization that prompted the invention of the SCOREBOARD. Uconn is just plain better and barring injury that ain't changing next year.
Last year's loss was because Ochonwa was injured, the loss in December was because Turner was injured and now the most recent loss is because of "unforced" errors and missed layups. I have to believe it is that kind of delusional rationalization that prompted the invention of the SCOREBOARD. Uconn is just plain better and barring injury that ain't changing next year.
UConn will probably win the next 5 titles and ND will probably be in the title game 4 of those games. Women's basketball is terrible with regards to diversity and it isn't changing. I mean when 2 teams have won 54% of the national titles since 1982 how could you think otherwise?
Mokpra, you are delusional. Uconn has won 3 straight championships and they will be even better next year. You may be in the 1% who think ND would be favored to beat UConn. Steward also rolled her ankle in the first half too. As far as the ND guards not shooting great, LLoyd shot bad the whole tournament minus Montana. She was around 35% or so for the tourney. Turner is going to be a GREAT player at ND but they most likely won't stop Uconn from winning 4 straight. To say ND would be favored is as bias as it gets.
coach McGraw was interviewed the other day and really went hard at loyd for wanting to leave early
according to MM, the woman do not make anything near 500k; she put it such that you have an extra -0-
That is the common practice for the women. It is like the best European men coming to play in the NBA.
