Recruit rankings update

[Golson5]

247 updated their individual rankings

Burress got a huge bump up to a 4 star. Jumped up close to 400 spots. His Sr film is very impressive so far

Antavious Richardson got bumped to a 4 star. A 230 spot jump. Really good athlete

So 2 of our WRs are moving up the rankings. Good evaluation by the staff

Cam Herron got bumped to a 4 star. 230 spot jump

Will Black 109 spot move upwards. Number 70 overall. He's really really good

Flanigan Blair Burgess got small bumps up

Golden and Zachary got bumped down but both on the top 175. Not sure why, really like both of their sr films

Good bumps mostly for our guys. Waiting to see the bump up Kia and Logan get. Both look really good as seniors

 

[IrishMike409]

I think this 25 class is absolutely loaded. If we can get a great RB, then we've got everything covered.

 

[sjb75]

I think this 25 class is absolutely loaded. If we can get a great RB, then we've got everything covered.

The Ohio St. class is loaded. Notre Dame’s class doesn’t come close to Ohio St.

That said, it’s a very good class, and frankly, given the recruiting restrictions Notre Dame inherently deals with annually, Marcus Freeman is recruiting really well.

 

[Shakin' Down the Thunder]

This is a very good class. If they could add Wiggs, NOB, and Faramio that would be amazing class of defensive recruits. My guess is they will add Jalen Cooper on offense and that will be it.

Once again, ND has the best supporting cast in all of CFB. What they lack is the game breaking players. That's why I was so disappointed when Knight flipped. And while they are getting good skill players at WR and RB, I don't know that any of them are the game breaking Heisman type of guys.

 

[Golson5]

I hope they can flip a RB. They are working hard on the Clemson kid but don't know if that is a real shot

 

[Get Nasty]

The difference with this class and freemans last 2 classes in my own personal opinion is the last 2 classes really only had 2 or 3 head scratchers (in my view), this class has about 5 right now, so a little increase. We needed this class to be much better on the Dline, and IMO it's not. It isn't bad, but we've had now 3 classes in a row where the dline recruiting has left a lot to be desired (couple that with our 2 highest recruits in 2022 not on the team anymore for different reasons). It's going to impact us next year no doubt.

 

[BaldyNd]

A RB would be nice but that position is loaded for us. If nobody transfers we will already be 5 deep, Thurman will be our 6th. We need Jalen Cooper and the LBs

 

[Golson5]

The difference with this class and freemans last 2 classes in my own personal opinion is the last 2 classes really only had 2 or 3 head scratchers (in my view), this class has about 5 right now, so a little increase. We needed this class to be much better on the Dline, and IMO it's not. It isn't bad, but we've had now 3 classes in a row where the dline recruiting has left a lot to be desired (couple that with our 2 highest recruits in 2022 not on the team anymore for different reasons). It's going to impact us next year no doubt.

Who are the 5 head scratches to you? We got rid of our worst prospect imo

I think the DL recruiting has been good the last 2 years. Traore and Young is the best duo at DE since when?

DL should be really good again next year if they are healthy

 

[Golson5]

A RB would be nice but that position is loaded for us. If nobody transfers we will already be 5 deep, Thurman will be our 6th. We need Jalen Cooper and the LBs

Price and Love most likely gone after 25

26 on the roster will be Young and Williams. Not high on Thurman. So I think rb is more important than some might think

 

[IrishMike409]

Price and Love most likely gone after 25

26 on the roster will be Young and Williams. Not high on Thurman. So I think rb is more important than some might think

Agree here. We're a bit thin at RB down the road. And who knows if someone hits the portal.

We've had some awesome RBs in recent years. That has to continue. Need this class to land someone who can carry a significant load in 26.

 

[IrishMike409]

Price and Love most likely gone after 25

26 on the roster will be Young and Williams. Not high on Thurman. So I think rb is more important than some might think

I'm a fan of G Payne. I think he'll have eligibility in 26. I hope he's here. He's a tough dude who we can trust.

Any word on how he's doing? Is he expected to come back in 25?

The 25 RB room is loaded: Love, Price, Williams, Young, Payne, Thurman.

The 26 is very uncertain.

 

[Golson5]

I'm a fan of G Payne. I think he'll have eligibility in 26. I hope he's here. He's a tough dude who we can trust.

Any word on how he's doing? Is he expected to come back in 25?

The 25 RB room is loaded: Love, Price, Williams, Young, Payne, Thurman.

The 26 is very uncertain.

I hope he comes back but not sure. Carrying 7 rbs is unlikely so a transfer could happen

 

[Get Nasty]

Who are the 5 head scratches to you? We got rid of our worst prospect imo

I think the DL recruiting has been good the last 2 years. Traore and Young is the best duo at DE since when?

DL should be really good again next year if they are healthy

Traore and Young have the potential to be. lets wait until they actually do it to say they've done something. I do think they will both be really good if traore can recover.

My head scratchers

Thurman because we took him so early and took Anderson (agree he was the worst recruit). I think thurman is only an ok prospect if he's the second back next to a stud in the class.

Reiff, Hulak - Both of them because we absolutely need better at the DL and IMO they're marginal contributors at best with major development.

Sulfsted - He would be a find commit if you had some studs in the class, but due to having reiff and hulak, complete headscratcher why you're taking the 3 of them.

Bettis Jr - We all know he has no business at this level (beyond head scratcher)

Kia - I'm ok with him only if you at minimum land one of the two studs we are in the hunt for. I'm not as high on Sacca as some, so at this point I think LB recruiting commits are sub par.

I'm worried with Botelho and Traore injury plus our loss of mills and cross there could be major step back for the DL. I do think Young explodes at SDE next year.

 

[Golson5]

Traore and Young have the potential to be. lets wait until they actually do it to say they've done something. I do think they will both be really good if traore can recover.

My head scratchers

Thurman because we took him so early and took Anderson (agree he was the worst recruit). I think thurman is only an ok prospect if he's the second back next to a stud in the class.

Reiff, Hulak - Both of them because we absolutely need better at the DL and IMO they're marginal contributors at best with major development.

Sulfsted - He would be a find commit if you had some studs in the class, but due to having reiff and hulak, complete headscratcher why you're taking the 3 of them.

Bettis Jr - We all know he has no business at this level (beyond head scratcher)

Kia - I'm ok with him only if you at minimum land one of the two studs we are in the hunt for. I'm not as high on Sacca as some, so at this point I think LB recruiting commits are sub par.

I'm worried with Botelho and Traore injury plus our loss of mills and cross there could be major step back for the DL. I do think Young explodes at SDE next year.

Kia you will end up being way off on. Kid can flat out play

I agree on Thurman

Bettis' film actually looks pretty good this year. He wouldn't have been a take for me but he's not as bad as I originality thought

I would take all 3 of those DL. Bring em in and develop them. See who hits and doesnt

 

[Golson5]

DL possibly next year

Vyper - Traore Botelho Thomas Junior. A legit 4 deep there

Big End - Young Burnham. Need a 3rd but like that duo a ton

DT/NG - Rubio Onye Hinish Mukam Mullins Houstan Vernon Sevillano

With zero freshman or transfers I think that DL is really good if healthy

 

[sjb75]

Traore and Young have the potential to be. lets wait until they actually do it to say they've done something. I do think they will both be really good if traore can recover.

My head scratchers

Thurman because we took him so early and took Anderson (agree he was the worst recruit). I think thurman is only an ok prospect if he's the second back next to a stud in the class.

Reiff, Hulak - Both of them because we absolutely need better at the DL and IMO they're marginal contributors at best with major development.

Sulfsted - He would be a find commit if you had some studs in the class, but due to having reiff and hulak, complete headscratcher why you're taking the 3 of them.

Bettis Jr - We all know he has no business at this level (beyond head scratcher)

Kia - I'm ok with him only if you at minimum land one of the two studs we are in the hunt for. I'm not as high on Sacca as some, so at this point I think LB recruiting commits are sub par.

I'm worried with Botelho and Traore injury plus our loss of mills and cross there could be major step back for the DL. I do think Young explodes at SDE next year.

Truth be told, I do not give a shit what you believe about Jerome Bettis’s son, and I have zero issue with the kid in this class.

I’ve watched him play. He isn’t nearly as bad as you make him out to be.

 

[Get Nasty]

DL possibly next year

Vyper - Traore Botelho Thomas Junior. A legit 4 deep there

Big End - Young Burnham. Need a 3rd but like that duo a ton

DT/NG - Rubio Onye Hinish Mukam Mullins Houstan Vernon Sevillano

With zero freshman or transfers I think that DL is really good if healthy

I don’t think you can expect botelho and traore to be the same next year, don’t like burnham at sde, and interior isn’t productive or at least proven to be

 

[Golson5]

I don’t think you can expect botelho and traore to be the same next year, don’t like burnham at sde, and interior isn’t productive or at least proven to be

I expect them to be good. Beginning of the year they will be 11 months post injury. They were early injuries so they should be good to go. Thomas and Junior are there now and will be a year older and more experience

Burnham has been good all year when he plays. Him and Young will be an outstanding duo. And again another year of development

Lot of reps between those top 3 guys by the end of the year. Then you have 5 younger players. At least one will emerge and probably at least another

No reason to think the DL won't be good next year.

 

[Get Nasty]

I expect them to be good. Beginning of the year they will be 11 months post injury. They were early injuries so they should be good to go. Thomas and Junior are there now and will be a year older and more experience

Burnham has been good all year when he plays. Him and Young will be an outstanding duo. And again another year of development

Lot of reps between those top 3 guys by the end of the year. Then you have 5 younger players. At least one will emerge and probably at least another

No reason to think the DL won't be good next year.

Evans is almost a year post surgery, raridon has never fully been the same

 

[Golson5]

Evans is almost a year post surgery, raridon has never fully been the same

Raridon has had multiple knee surgeries. Not just one.

And I could list tons that were fine. Adrian Peterson came back in 9 months and ran for 2000 yards.

Drue Tranquil was fine for a ND example.

11 months is a long time these days.

 

[Get Nasty]

Raridon has had multiple knee surgeries. Not just one.

And I could list tons that were fine. Adrian Peterson came back in 9 months and ran for 2000 yards.

Drue Tranquil was fine for a ND example.

11 months is a long time these days.

It’s possible, but you can’t expect it imo.
You won’t have either for the spring. That’s important.

Spring ball you have first and second string vyper out. You don’t just roll with Thomas and a little Burnham, I think you heavily shift Burnham over there assuming he’s your starter game 1 who might be vs an acc acc opponent. Then A&M week 2/3. Beginning of next years nd schedule could be funky and tough. Either nd has super tough start first 5 weeks or like a bye week 2 which is lame .

 

[Shakin' Down the Thunder]

Surgeries correcting torn ACLs is a hit or miss process. Some guys come back just fine and some are never the same. It just depends on how well the surgery is done.

 

[Golson5]

It’s possible, but you can’t expect it imo.
You won’t have either for the spring. That’s important.

We won't have a lot of guys there for spring.

I expect if those players are on the ND roster that I mentioned above that we will have a good to very good DL next year

It's more likely in this time that they will return in 11 months and be good players than they return and won't be any good

 

[Golson5]

Surgeries correcting torn ACLs is a hit or miss process. Some guys come back just fine and some are never the same. It just depends on how well the surgery is done.

In 2024, it's way more hit then miss.

It used to be hit or miss maybe 20 years ago but not anymore

 

[sjb75]

Surgeries correcting torn ACLs is a hit or miss process. Some guys come back just fine and some are never the same. It just depends on how well the surgery is done.

This isn’t true.

 

[ZibbyQuinn]

The difference with this class and freemans last 2 classes in my own personal opinion is the last 2 classes really only had 2 or 3 head scratchers (in my view), this class has about 5 right now, so a little increase. We needed this class to be much better on the Dline, and IMO it's not. It isn't bad, but we've had now 3 classes in a row where the dline recruiting has left a lot to be desired (couple that with our 2 highest recruits in 2022 not on the team anymore for different reasons). It's going to impact us next year no doubt.

The interior DL is a far from elite in 2025, just fine.

 

[Telx1]

DL possibly next year

Vyper - Traore Botelho Thomas Junior. A legit 4 deep there

Big End - Young Burnham. Need a 3rd but like that duo a ton

DT/NG - Rubio Onye Hinish Mukam Mullins Houstan Vernon Sevillano

With zero freshman or transfers I think that DL is really good if healthy

I hope Mukam is ahead of Hinish next year. Vernon is a mystery to me. Maybe the light will go on and he’ll be a major contributor.

 

[Get Nasty]

I hope Mukam is ahead of Hinish next year. Vernon is a mystery to me. Maybe the light will go on and he’ll be a major contributor.

I think Rubio is only interior player on roster next year that could be ready to be of starter quality. He’s also not a lock to return.

There is no doubt we need to find at least one interior player or starter quality… meaning better than anyone on our roster that can return next year