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So the Citadel will make the playoffs then if they'd go undefeated?

Obviously no.

If a team that could be unblemished has no chance for a playoff spot in Division 1 football that game shouldn't count.

Until you start penalizing these teams they'll never stop scheduling these bye weeks...
I mean Division 1AA games.

You watch at some point you're going to start seeing them play mot only one but two division 1AA teams
That would be the same for New Mexico as well right. Let's be honest here.
 
That would be the same for New Mexico as well right. Let's be honest here.
No.
New Mexico is still Division 1.

You don't know when the game is set how good or bad a D1 school will be.

You know you're playing a D1 AA regardless.
 
Disagree. The mere fact that a school is a FBS school, as opposed to a FCS school, doesn't necessarily mean that the FBS school is superior. Citadel beat Georgia Tech last Saturday. Why should a game against Georgia Tech count, in terms of playoff eligibility, but a game against Citadel should not?
Because there is no crystal ball when scheduling. Schedules are made 5, 10 or even 20 or more years in advance. A team that schedules an FCS team does so with the primary purpose of scheduling a cupcake. A team that schedules an FBS team can't know for sure what that team will be like 5 or more years from when the schedule was created, but they should get credit for trying to schedule a tougher team. A team's intent when scheduling should matter.

Over the last several years we've seen several FCS teams upset some FBS teams. It makes sports headlines. Everyone hears and makes a big deal about it but we shouldn't let those rare occurrences fool us into thinking that FCS teams are tougher than they are. Everyone talks about the occasional upset but no one talks about what happened in all of the other FBS vs. FCS games. As should be expected, those games are usually blowouts. Overall, FCS records against FBS teams is still extremely dismal which is why some FBS teams schedule them. They are trying to pad their resume. When team X scheduled a Georgia Tech 10 years ago, they couldn't have known GT would suck in 2019 and they shouldn't be punished for not knowing.
 
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Because there is no crystal ball when scheduling. Schedules are made 5, 10 or even 20 or more years in advance. A team that schedules an FCS team does so with the primary purpose of scheduling a cupcake. A team that schedules an FBS team can't know for sure what that team will be like 5 or more years from when the schedule was created, but they should get credit for trying to schedule a tougher team. A team's intent when scheduling should matter.

Over the last several years we've seen several FCS teams upset some FBS teams. It makes sports headlines. Everyone hears and makes a big deal about it but we shouldn't let those rare occurrences fool us into thinking that FCS teams are tougher than they are. Everyone talks about the occasional upset but no one talks about what happened in all of the other FBS vs. FCS games. As should be expected, those games are usually blowouts. Overall, FCS records against FBS teams is still extremely dismal which is why some FBS teams schedule them. They are trying to pad their resume. When team X scheduled a Georgia Tech 10 years ago, they couldn't have known GT would suck in 2019 and they shouldn't be punished for not knowing.
Bingo
 
Because there is no crystal ball when scheduling. Schedules are made 5, 10 or even 20 or more years in advance. A team that schedules an FCS team does so with the primary purpose of scheduling a cupcake. A team that schedules an FBS team can't know for sure what that team will be like 5 or more years from when the schedule was created, but they should get credit for trying to schedule a tougher team. A team's intent when scheduling should matter.

Over the last several years we've seen several FCS teams upset some FBS teams. It makes sports headlines. Everyone hears and makes a big deal about it but we shouldn't let those rare occurrences fool us into thinking that FCS teams are tougher than they are. Everyone talks about the occasional upset but no one talks about what happened in all of the other FBS vs. FCS games. As should be expected, those games are usually blowouts. Overall, FCS records against FBS teams is still extremely dismal which is why some FBS teams schedule them. They are trying to pad their resume. When team X scheduled a Georgia Tech 10 years ago, they couldn't have known GT would suck in 2019 and they shouldn't be punished for not knowing.

Yeah, but you don't give a team playoff kudos for *attempting to schedule* a good team. You give them kudos for *beating* a good team. North Dakota State is a good team. Many FBS teams are not.

You have to look at how good the actual wins are during the season in question. Not how good the teams were back when scheduled. Which may show good or bad intentions, but is meaningless when determining which teams have earned a playoff spot.
 
No.
New Mexico is still Division 1.

You don't know when the game is set how good or bad a D1 school will be.

You know you're playing a D1 AA regardless.
New Mexico, realistically, has no shot at the playoff. Even if they win every game on their schedule.
 
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New Mexico, realistically, has no shot at the playoff. Even if they win every game on their schedule.
12-0 Mountain West team would need a lot of help to make the playoff. That's the same for Boise St and New Mexico.
 
Yeah, but you don't give a team playoff kudos for *attempting to schedule* a good team. You give them kudos for *beating* a good team. North Dakota State is a good team. Many FBS teams are not.

You have to look at how good the actual wins are during the season in question. Not how good the teams were back when scheduled. Which may show good or bad intentions, but is meaningless when determining which teams have earned a playoff spot.
North Dakota State is an aberration, not the rule. No FBS team wants to play them right now. It's a lose lose proposition.
 
Because there is no crystal ball when scheduling. Schedules are made 5, 10 or even 20 or more years in advance. A team that schedules an FCS team does so with the primary purpose of scheduling a cupcake. A team that schedules an FBS team can't know for sure what that team will be like 5 or more years from when the schedule was created, but they should get credit for trying to schedule a tougher team. A team's intent when scheduling should matter.

That's all nice in theory, but in practice, it is totally unworkable. Strength of schedule has to be based upon who you play, not what you intended.
 
North Dakota State is an aberration, not the rule. No FBS team wants to play them right now. It's a lose lose proposition.

How about UConn? Teams wouldn't be given a hard time for scheduling the Huskies OOC, but according to Sagarin there are 41 better FCS teams.

You have to look at the specific team played; not just their subdivision or conference.

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12-0 Mountain West team would need a lot of help to make the playoff. That's the same for Boise St and New Mexico.
Yeah, well if an FCS team goes 12-0 they will never make the playoff. Because they are an FCS team.
 
Yeah, but you don't give a team playoff kudos for *attempting to schedule* a good team. You give them kudos for *beating* a good team. North Dakota State is a good team. Many FBS teams are not.

You have to look at how good the actual wins are during the season in question. Not how good the teams were back when scheduled. Which may show good or bad intentions, but is meaningless when determining which teams have earned a playoff spot.
No, fortunately, you are wrong. The playoff committee sees it the way I do. Historically, they have punished teams for scheduling cupcakes - Baylor in 2014 comes to mind - and they punish teams that, overall, have a built-in weak schedule even if they can't help it - UCF the last several seasons comes to mind.

I don't doubt that in a given year a particular FCS team might be really good... for an FCS team, and that really good FCS team might be better than some FBS teams, but the playoff committee should encourage FBS teams to schedule tougher opponents. They should not be indifferent about it and simply go on how a particular FCS team performs during a given year.
 
New Mexico, realistically, has no shot at the playoff. Even if they win every game on their schedule.
Not technically true....

While you guys love the little elitest Power 5 monopoly horseshit going on...

In the right circumstances they could. UCF as well.

Last year there were too many teams undefeated from a power 5 and or Notre Dame

But some day the pretty teams won't have a bunch undefeated and the UCF type teams of the world will in fact have a chabce.

8 in the playoffs will happen before too long as well.

A D1AA will never be included as they've their very own playoff
 
Not technically true....

While you guys love the little elitest Power 5 monopoly horseshit going on...

In the right circumstances they could. UCF as well.

Last year there were too many teams undefeated from a power 5 and or Notre Dame

But some day the pretty teams won't have a bunch undefeated and the UCF type teams of the world will in fact have a chabce.

8 in the playoffs will happen before too long as well.

A D1AA will never be included as they've their very own playoff
The only way it happens is for the stars to align heavily for the non power 5 school.

1st, would need a scenario where only three P5 teams have 0 or 1 loss.

2nd the non P5 will have to have a current top ten team on their schedule.

3rd the non P5 will have to have beaten that team, better if convincingly and better if on the road.

4th the non P5 must have no struggle win versus one of their own.

And I'm still not sure it would happen. The SOS gap is extremely wide. I mean if we're gonna say Wisconsin can't go with one loss in 2017, then why take a non P5 that has a much weaker schedule?
 
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