"Putting up a full page ad in the South Bend Tribune"

[Birks31]

Kelly has lost to all top 10 teams except MSU. If we were using a job review type system this would be it.

And even then He didn't beat MSU in 2012 for any other reason than because Golson turned a broken play scramble into a hail Mary touchdown! It amazes me no end that Kelly supporters don't see the OBVIOUS. The only time Notre Dame has done well under Kelly is when he has to get away from his playbook and let the QB freestyle a bit with pure talent.

Kelly really is an awful coach. Zero fundamentals from his assistants and too much focus on play calling in a vaccuum rather than considering the game situation, player personel, etc.

 

[Tru2Irish]

Stupid is as stupid does. Likely the same people who protest in the middle of a highway it the ones who burn flags.
Grow up.

Sad! If it weren't for a few uprisers starting protests against taxation, America wouldn't be what it became. Continue to back your hero BK.

 

[quinnts]

Sad! If it weren't for a few uprisers starting protests against taxation, America wouldn't be what it became. Continue to back your hero BK.

Good grief. Comparing this to Americas uprising. Are you serious. Come back when your out of high school.

 

[Birks31]

IMO, the pro-Kelly people fall into 2 categories.

1) People who just cannot admit they were wrong about Kelly
2) People who are too afraid of change because the previous 3 coaches were terrible hires.

There's also a category for casual fans who don't know the "I" formation from their iPhone. Lots of those out there.

 

[HuddleBurger]

What does Jack have to do with that, he didn't hire Brey

That shouldn't prevent him from being my BFF too, along with Brian. The culture of excellence is meticulously crafted and permeates all. Can I interest you in a fine Cuban cigar? Cheers!

- Jack

 

[Birks31]

Good grief. Comparing this to Americas uprising. Are you serious. Come back when your out of high school.

What's your angle in all of this? Do you think Kelly will lead us to a national championship? Think he'll ever secure a top 5 recruiting class? If yes, then WHEN??? If No, then why do you want him around for an 8th year. Really, what's your agenda here?

 

[Bodizephax]

Sad! If it weren't for a few uprisers starting protests against taxation, America wouldn't be what it became. Continue to back your hero BK.

The liberals are protesting a free democratic election. If you want to start an uprising, Bring it on. We conservatives have most of the guns.

 

[Bodizephax]

And even then He didn't beat MSU in 2012 for any other reason than because Golson turned a broken play scramble into a hail Mary touchdown! It amazes me no end that Kelly supporters don't see the OBVIOUS. The only time Notre Dame has done well under Kelly is when he has to get away from his playbook and let the QB freestyle a bit with pure talent.

Kelly really is an awful coach. Zero fundamentals from his assistants and too much focus on play calling in a vaccuum rather than considering the game situation, player personel, etc.

Kelly sucks. But the defense absolutely dominated Michigan State that day. Kelly was a good coach in 2012. That was a long time ago. Fire Kelly !

 

[quinnts]

What's your angle in all of this? Do you think Kelly will lead us to a national championship? Think he'll ever secure a top 5 recruiting class? If yes, then WHEN??? If No, then why do you want him around for an 8th year. Really, what's your agenda here?

Agenda. Why must I have an agenda. Truth be told I was not in favor of firing Willingham. I was not in favor of firing Weis.
I've coached a lot through my life and just believe there is way more to Wins and Losses that is missed.
I believe these coaches had the university and kids as top priorities and are doing the very best they can.
I also believe the university culture makes coaching at ND very hard. I feel no matter who is brought in they will have some successful years and bad years. It will never be a consistently powerful football program again until the culture of the admin changes.
That being said BK is a smart coach and he will have success, bringing in a new coach will also but not to the level you are hoping for.
He will be run out of town in 5 years also.

 

[Birks31]

Agenda. Why must I have an agenda. Truth be told I was not in favor of firing Willingham. I was not in favor of firing Weis.
I've coached a lot through my life and just believe there is way more to Wins and Losses that is missed.
I believe these coaches had the university and kids as top priorities and are doing the very best they can.
I also believe the university culture makes coaching at ND very hard. I feel no matter who is brought in they will have some successful years and bad years. It will never be a consistently powerful football program again until the culture of the admin changes.
That being said BK is a smart coach and he will have success, bringing in a new coach will also but not to the level you are hoping for.
He will be run out of town in 5 years also.

Well, you couldn't have been very successful as a coach, because your attitude towards wins and losses is pretty submissive

 

[Birks31]

And if you weren't in favor of firing Willingham OR Weis, then I think that says everything there is to know about your opinions on these matters. They are worthless...but Kelly is worse because the admin gave him everything he asked for. At least Willingham and Weis managed to keep them from cheating or breaking fall camp with guns and weed.

 

[quinnts]

Well, you couldn't have been very successful as a coach, because your attitude towards wins and losses is pretty submissive

Ha. This is my point. You just made it and proves you are small minded. Good luck with your wins and losses leading you in life.

 

[Telx1]

I'm guilty of using the argument that coaching at ND entails exhausting unique pressures unlike any other HC job in college football, but don't think this is true today as it was in past decades. Sure, the academic demands for our football players are different from most, although Stanford and Wisconsin among a few others are comparable. When Holtz has referred to this in years past, I think he meant the expectations and pressure to win within the confines of the Universities student before athlete policies. We may still have these challenging academic policies, but Jack made it pretty clear that winning is down the list of his expectations; and our past twenty year performance suggests this is the new norm. Jack's interview was both revealing and disheartening for all of us that still pine for an elite program that competes for playoff consideration annually. Under Jack, the expectations are much lower, and that is exactly why I support his and Kelly's firing. BTW, the amount raised is now around $5500 with lots of $10 donations, and growing.

 

[irishalice]

John Kasich sucks !! He did not win any state in the primarys and he talked a lot of crap !! A marble mouthed RINO ! Drain the Swamp !

~Laughing~

Seriously?

 

[theskibro]

"Fire Swarbrick" is being chalked all over campus....
Text so far:
Jack Swarbrick has failed Notre Dame football

For seven years, Notre Dame Athletic Director Jack Swarbrick has enabled and defended his chosen head football coach. These are their results:

Failure on the field

– 4-8 in 2016 for a team projected in the Top 10

-- 22-16 the last 3 years, a worse percentage than the 21-15 that got Tyrone Willingham fired

-- 2 major bowls in 7 seasons, both decisive losses. The one Top 10 season ended in a 42-14 title game loss after the coach pursued other coaching jobs during bowl preparations
Failure off the field

-- All wins in 2012 and 2013 vacated due to undisputed academic malfeasance

-- 7 players arrested in August 2016

– Starting QB expelled for academic misconduct

-- Student videographer killed by a fall in high winds, with leaders denying responsibility

-- Repeated singling out of players as scapegoats, and a sideline physical assault on an assistant coach

What would we fight for?
(Kelly/Grimes photo)

We fight to defend Notre Dame’s unique century-long quest for greatness both on and off the field. Jack Swarbrick and his coach not only have failed to uphold this standard of excellence, they openly defy it. Swarbrick has dared the university’s leaders to choose between the Notre Dame tradition and himself. At this critical moment, we call on them to make the right choice.

I really like the copy for th ad. Only thing I would add at the end when talking about jack is to add his arrogant statement that the "BOD and fans opinions don't matter. That kind of pressure does not work here. It's not how we do things"

 

[theskibro]

Still being cleaned up

This ad is awesome. Great job. Add the jack quote about pressure from BOD and fans does not matter. It's not how we do things here

 

[theskibro]

Agenda. Why must I have an agenda. Truth be told I was not in favor of firing Willingham. I was not in favor of firing Weis.
I've coached a lot through my life and just believe there is way more to Wins and Losses that is missed.
I believe these coaches had the university and kids as top priorities and are doing the very best they can.
I also believe the university culture makes coaching at ND very hard. I feel no matter who is brought in they will have some successful years and bad years. It will never be a consistently powerful football program again until the culture of the admin changes.
That being said BK is a smart coach and he will have success, bringing in a new coach will also but not to the level you are hoping for.
He will be run out of town in 5 years also.

So now we know you are really Kevin White posing as Quints

 

[zonairish]

Kelly has lost to all top 10 teams except MSU. If we were using a job review type system this would be it.

2010 - Meet expectations
2011 - Did not meet expectations
2012 - Exceeded expectations.
2013 - Did not meet expectations
2014 - Did not meet expectations
2015 - Meet expectations.
2016 - Did not meet expectations.

Not nearly good enough

under the Jack welsh management he fires the bottom 10% of all peformers even if they met expectations IBM does the same thing. i see beloow expectations here should have been gone a while ago

 

[Harpo Marxist]

Here's the Catch 22....Kelly must overhaul his coaching staff....even though they aren't running the show. He has to replace hand-picked assistants with readily-available replacements who are: (a) capable and able to hit the ground running.....and (b) unphased that the head coach is facing a sink or swim season. That is a very tall order...and in my view, narrows the inventory of available and capable candidates dramatically. And this process has to happen with a coach who tends to micro-manage the very assistants he has to replace.

It appears to be a process that, for business reasons....Notre Dame finds necessary to complete in the course of replacing Brian Kelly.

 

[monkey3960]

I am passing it along from my friends at NDN.

Wrong again. Full page SB tribune already funded.
You really should sit out all things Notre Dame.
My Alma mater needs less of enablers...
Great season your hero authored.....Keep supporting that schmuck. It suits you.

Coach Kelly is the head football coach of ND. The stories of him looking elsewhere to coach we have been assured are not true. That said, of course I support him and will continue to do so. I want a coach who can take ND football to the championship game. Like Coach Kelly did.

The first coach to get us that far in almost 30 years.

He won't do it again.

 

[john0gaunt]

fires the bottom 10% of all peformers even if they met expectations IBM does the same thing.

Right, using your logic ND can then hire Ravi Rajanavanaovitnbfstan for HC. He will be far less expensive and has a PhD!

Then they can continue 20 more quarters of falling revenue.

Well thought out!

 

[cgvr]

This ad is awesome. Great job. Add the jack quote about pressure from BOD and fans does not matter. It's not how we do things here

Even better now...

 

[cgvr]

Agenda. Why must I have an agenda. Truth be told I was not in favor of firing Willingham. I was not in favor of firing Weis.
I've coached a lot through my life and just believe there is way more to Wins and Losses that is missed.
I believe these coaches had the university and kids as top priorities and are doing the very best they can.
I also believe the university culture makes coaching at ND very hard. I feel no matter who is brought in they will have some successful years and bad years. It will never be a consistently powerful football program again until the culture of the admin changes.
That being said BK is a smart coach and he will have success, bringing in a new coach will also but not to the level you are hoping for.
He will be run out of town in 5 years also.

"That being said BK is a smart coach" False, he is an idiot.

He has been repeatedly smashed to smithereens by lesser manned squads.

Outside of the Oklahoma '12 game has won little of note at ND. PS we were ranked 5 and Ok 8 at the time....

 

[cgvr]

If a poster predates the Kelly era how likely is it that he/she is an employee of the athletic department or Kelly's wife? Kelly wasn't even a twinkle in any Irish fan eye then.

To me, there doesn't seem to be much tolerance from the hardcore "fire Kelly now" posters to those with differing opinions....so hence the THEY. Surely, I'm allowed to voice my opinion without a disclaimer of not being employed by Notre Dame or Kelly's wife?

Surmise as you wish. All's good. I just don't see how a individual's tenure on the board disassociates a poster from a possible deeper tie to ND. I was addressing posters who are incapable of finding fault with anything kelly.... things like going for 2 against NW.... violently grabbing Grimes....

As for conspiracy theories, what is your opinion on this? Is any tin foil needed?

"Maybe you came home from work one afternoon to find Coach Brian Kelly in your bed, giving it to your wife. That's my best guess. Truth hurts!!!"

16IrishMike409,Monday at 6:26 PM

 

[end_23]

Purse uses Walmart brand foil but I think you should use Reynolds aluminum foil. Better reception. You should take your act on the road.

I can't wait to see your drivel next year. After multiple losses in September you won't show yourself around here again.

 

[Pennick44]

I can't wait to see your drivel next year. After multiple losses in September you won't show yourself around here again.

Thought I smelled something. Did you clean the outhouse?

 

[cgvr]

Agenda. Why must I have an agenda. Truth be told I was not in favor of firing Willingham. I was not in favor of firing Weis.
I've coached a lot through my life and just believe there is way more to Wins and Losses that is missed.
I believe these coaches had the university and kids as top priorities and are doing the very best they can.
I also believe the university culture makes coaching at ND very hard. I feel no matter who is brought in they will have some successful years and bad years. It will never be a consistently powerful football program again until the culture of the admin changes.
That being said BK is a smart coach and he will have success, bringing in a new coach will also but not to the level you are hoping for.
He will be run out of town in 5 years also.

Seriously? weis would kiss a recruits ass in their living room and when he arrived on campus ignore him... He was a jackass towards everyone....

 

[irishalice]

Surmise as you wish. All's good. I just don't see how a individual's tenure on the board disassociates a poster from a possible deeper tie to ND. I was addressing posters who are incapable of finding fault with anything kelly.... things like going for 2 against NW.... violently grabbing Grimes....

As for conspiracy theories, what is your opinion on this? Is any tin foil needed?

"Maybe you came home from work one afternoon to find Coach Brian Kelly in your bed, giving it to your wife. That's my best guess. Truth hurts!!!"

16IrishMike409,Monday at 6:26 PM

Are you asking me about IrishMike's post? Not tin foil just rude.

Don't think the tit for tat insults are going to end anytime soon either.

 

[Bodizephax]

"That being said BK is a smart coach" False, he is an idiot.

He has been repeatedly smashed to smithereens by lesser manned squads.

Outside of the Oklahoma '12 game has won little of note at ND. PS we were ranked 5 and Ok 8 at the time....

quint is the poster/coach who said he does other coaches laundry.

 

[cgvr]

Are you asking me about IrishMike's post? Not tin foil just rude.

Don't think the tit for tat insults are going to end anytime soon either.

Apparently, suggesting that kelly is an adulterer/sexual predator/rapist is okay.....and actually "liked" by some.
It was a "theory" advanced by im.....

 

[Birks31]

Ha. This is my point. You just made it and proves you are small minded. Good luck with your wins and losses leading you in life.

Yeah, yeah. Never mind that flumdiddle. Are you going to disclose your relationship to the program or not? You've already said you don't know Kelly well, which means you do know him. How? I don't hold it against you or anything, I just think its highly relevant in determining the credibility to assign to your opinions.

 

[zonairish]

putting purple face kelly in an ad is funny

 

[Java65]

Still being cleaned up

Love it! Spot on

 

[IrishMike409]

Great point. I scratch my head with a few posters still here and now it all makes sense. They certainly have to be ND athletic dept. employees.

I'm not an ND employee.

Just a fan who is going to support ND no matter what. Jack is paid to make the tough decisions. I'm not, nor are you.

 

[zonairish]

Right, using your logic ND can then hire Ravi Rajanavanaovitnbfstan for HC. He will be far less expensive and has a PhD!

Then they can continue 20 more quarters of falling revenue.

Well thought out!

not sure what your logic

 

[end_23]

Good grief. Comparing this to Americas uprising. Are you serious. Come back when your out of high school.

Says the guy who makes 5th grade grammatical errors.

 

[end_23]

Thought I smelled something. Did you clean the outhouse?

The only person who liked your comment is the biggest loser this board has ever seen. Potentially bi-polar too. That's telling.

 

[end_23]

This ad is awesome. Great job. Add the jack quote about pressure from BOD and fans does not matter. It's not how we do things here

But ole scumbag Jack sure relies on the FAN$ on Saturday.

 

[quinnts]

Don't

Says the guy who makes 5th grade grammatical errors.[/QUOTE

Loser

 

[end_23]

Don't

You're.

Now go back and teach your kids how to lose.

Pot meet kettle.