PSU vs BSU
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The roster issue doesn't factor. A team is what it is, dealing with transfers. And sure, it takes a season to evaluate these things.
After a season, Alabama, Tennessee, indeed the SEC, isn't as strong as we thought it was. The BIG so far is handing it to the SEC. The committee was not so far off in selecting 12...the seeding and byes were poorly done, but that is a work in progress.
I said all along the last 4 could be a mix of teams: Alabama, SMU, Ole Miss, Indiana, margin of error for the last 2-4.
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Really average SEC teams that lost to middling to bottom dwelling SEC teams Tennessee was in round 1 and they were completely embarrassed. PUT DOWN THE CRACK PIPE
Not really, you could have a good in conference record and a terrible out of conference record
So why did ACC champion Clemson go 0-3 against the SEC, including a home loss in game 12 to really average South Carolina?
Who cares. They won their conference just like Boise and Arizona State.
That had nothing to do with the sec being overrated this year.
That is why I said it has to be a balance of those things, including SOS. Even so, it will never be perfect. Again, there will be a margin of error.
The season must matter. Wins matter more than losses. Being a conference champion should matter, if it is a playoff across conferences.
The committee will improve things. To your point, if a conference champion happens to have a bad SOS, they won't get in, reflected in rankings. Rankings should also drive seeding and byes...balancing the distribution of strength across brackets.
I think everybody is noting how Penn State got a much easier path than Ohio State and Oregon.
Does anyone think that a team that didn't get into the playoffs was going to win the championship?
Lane Kiffin simply wanted in, and felt SMU from the ACC didn’t deserve to be in.
He’s been vocal about that for awhile.
Again, learn to read. The topic is those teams deserved to get in over the teams that did. To me, no matter which teams are inserted 9-12, the results would be the same, so the discussion is irrelevant.
Are you saying Alabama, South Carolina, and Ole Miss would have won the 1st round games or would have been more competitive? Tennessee was humiliated, it was the most lopsided of the 4 1st round games and they were the best SEC team of that group.
If they want the benefits of being in a conference then they can accept the burdens.
Who gives a sh1t what Lane Kiffin says. Of course he's going to push for his team. My answer to Lane is don't lose to 4 loss LSU, 5 loss Florida, and 8 loss Kentucky. Win 1 or 2 of those games and he's in.
Yet out of the 1st round playoff games, Clemson was the most competitive. Tennessee was humiliated.. One could argue Tennesse didn't belong as it was the most lopsided of the 1st round games.
What? Conference champions get auto bids. If anything they'll change how byes are doled out or reseed after round 1. Conference champions will get in, and the best G5 team will get in as well. This is all to avoid lawsuits.
They are? Over half the 1st rounders will be busts this year while some late rounders will go on to have HOF careers. They may be smarter than the average Joe, but let’s not get carried away
Vegas should pick the best 12 or 16 teams
They have zero bias !
Unfortunately we know that won't happen. SEC and BIG 10 want to get as many teams from their conference into the playoffs. ACC, B12, and G5 need to be included or they will sue and win.
The rankings themselves are biased. Alabama loses to Vanderbilt and they only drop 4-5 spots. Meanwhile, an ACC or B12 team has a similar bad loss and they drop 10-11 spots.
Realistically, the G5 has no business having a team included in the playoff let alone getting a bye.
ACC champion Clemson lost at home in game 12 to really average non playoff South Carolina.
For the season, ACC champion Clemson played three SEC teams. Finished 0-3.
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Lane needed to win another game then, it’s his responsibility. He should quit blaming others, he isn’t in SoCal anymore.
Lane is a crybaby and cheated on his wife. You hate Fleck for doing same, always bring it up….yet you keep carrying his water as well…
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Again, none of the teams you would have preferred would have made it any different. they would have all lost big. So who cares. Your point about Alabama, South Carolina, and Ole Miss is irrelevant because the results would have been the same.
You consistently bring up Clemson yet conveniently ignore Tennessee getting humiliated in the 1st round of the playoffs. disingenuous at best. If you are such an SEC homer go live on their forums.
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But games from 4 months ago don’t count …you said so yourself just the other day
So really only 0-2…
And Merrimack is gonna win the MAAC and get to the NCAA Basketball Tournament, ALSO a championship tourney, but where conference champs get seeded "accurately"...lousy conference champions make ALL of the NCAA championships.
So I guess I struggle to understand your declarations around teams being included in the playoffs, given that there are contracts, protocols and agreements as to which teams from which conferences are accorded status...
Is this just a way to get some attention?
We know, we know....Clemson was oh-and-three....
And I don't know if you heard, but Northern Illinois beat Notre Dame! Can you imagine?
Changes will be made, but I am gonna bet that conference champions, at least those in the que now, will always be included, good-team, bad-team, indifferent team...IF they are smart they will do what is done in other NCAA tournaments...seed them where they belong, NOT as conference champions...but since the BIG and the SEC want there champs #'s 1 and 2, I think they may be the biggest obstacle to common sense...
Yes, that is basically what I said...but I also opened the possibility of not selecting a conference winner if the record and SOS were egregiously bad. Noting that this is improbable, as a conference winner likely would not be so egregiously lacking.
