Playoff Rankings
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the top four right now will be in the playoffs if they all win there remaining games
Bodizephax
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Thanks for your prediction # 1. I can breathe easier knowing the Irish will be #4.
#1 probably didn't see Oklahoma st play Saturday Bodi and plus iowa hasn't played nobody yet
For Iowa to jump ND, wouldn't they have to beat Ohio St.? If so, wouldn't they replace Ohio St. in the top 4 and not affect ND? Ok St. is my concern. They need to lose a game and Clemson needs to win out as does Notre Dame. Of course, coach speak, but let's get past BC first.
Agreed. I think Ohio State has played nobody so far...that being said their next three games are tough so if they remain undefeated they are obviously in for sure. If they lose this week to Michigan State or next week to Michigan the only way they get in is by winning two of three and having some help.
Iowa would have to beat Ohio State in the Championship game which would push Ohio State out. ND wins out I think they are in with the only team in my humble opinion that can move ahead of them being possibly Oklahoma State if they can defeat Oklahoma and Baylor. Then they have an argument. Personally I think they lose one or both of those games. Ideally for the Irish they lose to Baylor then beat Oklahoma.
Everyone else will have a loss and maybe more than one. Alabama looks good at the moment but they still have to beat Florida. Clemson is good but North Carolina could be tough in the conference championship game.
Oklahoma st will get crushed by Oklahoma because there defense very good right now and plus Oklahoma is playing as well as anybody right now
NC could very well beat Clemson which may hurt the Irish. Having said that, all ND can do is win. Take care of business this weekend and finish the season with a win at Stanford which isn't going to be easy. (Stanford may actually be the best team the Irish play)
Kirk Herbstreit is a douche. He said ND is in only because of name brand. It's convenient how easily he forgot how OSU got in last season. ND's SOS is light years better than Iowa or Ok State. His hatred toward ND shined tonight.
Does anyone in the media realize that ND is doing this with numerous major season ending injuries? I hear about the Baylor QB situation until I'm ready to punch the TV for goodness sakes. The media is determined to get in Okie State or Oklahoma in the final spot if they had it their way. ND has to apologize for nothing. I defy any of these top ten teams to lose all the athletes ND have lost and let's see what happens. It was the media who declared Georgia Tech, Temple, and Navy as dangerous teams. USC is still USC, elite athletes and all. Finally, I just heard Charles Arbuckle give big props to ND for persevering with all their injuries. Thank you Charles.
I have heard many comments praising ND and Kelly for overcoming so many injuries. A difference is that many of ND's injuries were much earlier in the season compared to the Baylor QB.
Kirk Herbstreit say Iowa will jump to # 4 if Iowa win this Sat. I was thought Oklahoma State. or Iowa will be new #4 because of both are zero lost. OSU will lost to MSU or Michigan. I think if Oklahoma win this Sat then Oklahoma will be jumped more spots for playoff...
Now you are defending ND? You can get off the bandwagon, no room for you!
Bodizephax
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irish # one is the number one predictor !! He always picks the opposite of what comes true !! Bet on his bets-(bet on the opposite) and you would be a very rich man !!
Surprise, surprise 2 former Ohst players on ESPN's panel and
no one mentions the Bucknuts weak schedule and way too high ranking for a team that has played and beaten no one.
no one mentions the Bucknuts weak schedule and way too high ranking for a team that has played and beaten no one.
1. Clemson (vs. Wake Forest)2. Alabama (vs. Charleston Southern)3. Ohio State (vs. Michigan State) 5. Iowa (vs. Purdue)6. Oklahoma State (vs. Baylor)7. Oklahoma (vs. TCU)
Time to pull for Charleston Southern (shock the world!!!!!), MSU, Purdue (would love to see Purdue win by about 14 to shut the Iowa people up), and TCU.
GO IRISH!!!!!! Take care of business....
Time to pull for Charleston Southern (shock the world!!!!!), MSU, Purdue (would love to see Purdue win by about 14 to shut the Iowa people up), and TCU.
GO IRISH!!!!!! Take care of business....
Just a quick reminder if NC beats Clemson , Clemson falls out of top 4 and ND moves up
If Iowa Beats OSUm OSU falls out of Top 4 and ND moves up
If Alabama loses again ND moves up
Beat BC and Stanford and the Irish could find themselves #1 in the country Dec 6
The media has made little issue of ALL the injuries that ND has endured. A mention here and there does not give true context of what this team has gone through and I don't think fans across the nation understand it and frankly, many in the media are probably not even aware. I also keep hearing constantly what NDs signature win is for 2015. They might point out Navy and the loss to Clemson. So what is Alabama's signature win? 2 loss Wisconsin? 5 loss Middle Tenn?, 3 loss Ole Miss?, 9 loss LA Monroe?, 3 loss Georgia?, 4 loss Arkansas?, 3 loss A&M?, 4 loss Tenn?, 2 loss LSU?, 3 loss Miss State?, FCS Charleston So?, or 5 loss Auburn?. Bama is tough, but I'm not seeing a sig win here either unless SEC teams with multiple losses are considered better than multiple loss teams from any other Power 5 conference. At the time, Texas, G Tech, USC, Temple, and Navy were all considered VG wins. Now, the Clemson loss is considered by some talking heads as NDs glorious moment. My point throughout this tirade is that ND is doing this remarkable season the hard way. Harder than any other top program has to go through.
I think the fact that nd stayed a solid #4 after a week where they did not play all that well and their schedule took a hit with Stanford losing bodes very well for them if they win out. if Oklahoma st comes out of the big 12 undefeated I would have no problem with them being in the playoff. Oklahoma with one loss will be in the conversation as they are doing right now what ohio st did last year. gonna be fun.
In the scenarios you give, if Clemson loses to UNC, ND wouldn't necessarily "move up" because UNC may pass them. The committee may also believe that Clemson should be ranked ahead of ND due to the head-to-head matchup.
Iowa defeating Ohio State would likely cause Iowa and Ohio State to switch spots.
An Alabama loss to Florida may cause Alabama to drop below ND, but possibly involve Florida leapfrogging ND.
I don't know why people think that the committee simply moves teams up that win and moves them down when they lose. I think it's clear that their analysis is a bit more nuanced than that (thankfully).
I actually think the whole system is BS, but it's what we got. The talking heads shape the narrative anyway they want.. I keep hearing signature wins or signature losses. Where is OSU's signature win? Against who? But they remain in the top 4 because of last year? While I know that is true, it's also wrong. So in the end the system sucks, but everyone has to live with it
not sure how far unc could move up. I actually think given how they are playing their ranking is way too low. would not surprise me one bit if they knock off Clemson. all nd can do is go 11-1 and let the chips fall where they may. if they don't get in so be it. it won't be the end of my world if they get left out. it's been a great year to be an nd fan.
UNC is playing well, but they played two FCS schools this season. I think that's hurting them in the rankings and would keep them from vaulting into the top 4 if they beat Clemson.
Did TCU move up or down last year after their final win?
Your assumption is that if ND wins and any team in front of it loses, then ND will automatically move up one spot. The committee has already indicated that it will not do that. An Iowa victory over Ohio State in the Big Ten Championship may result in Ohio State falling below Notre Dame, but would likely also result in Iowa leapfrogging Notre Dame. Notre Dame, thus, would remain No. 4, not "move up" as per your scenario.
It sounds like our #4 position is pretty solid right now. However, if Okie State were to win out and finish undefeated, I think they could pass us. So I'll be rooting for Baylor to knock them off this weekend. But we need to take care of business and win the next 2 games, which will be tough, especially Stanford.
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Notre dame is in an impossible position. If Clemson loses it will likely knock ND out of top 4 based on strength of schedule, and I think Clemson still takes #4 spot. If notre dame wins out their best win will be over a three loss team or temple. How can you argue that when ok state or ok would have likely beaten two top ten teams with everyone having one loss. Could be a makeup call after last year when big twelve got burned. OSU or Iowa will likely take a spot unless they both melt down here at the end of the season. How can they not they will be undefeated and one of them will have beaten a top 10 team. And you know an SEC team has to make it. Notre dame wants their independence but if they want to play in the CFP they need to go undefeated.
Bodizephax
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Navy is # 16 with only 1 loss and should be favored in the rest of their games. Stanford has only 2 losses. USC has only two losses outside playing ND. Pitt has only 2 losses outside of ND. Temple has only 1 loss outside ND. And Clemson should is undefeated. That is 6 teams (half their schedule) that have a record right now of 48 and 7 outside of playing ND right now.
Not too shabby. That is why the committee has Notre Dame ranked a solid # 4 and Purdue a solid # 128.
