OT: Thanking Donald Trump

[IRISHJD98]

I don't know about the overall effort in Puerto Rico, but my son started chasing hurricanes with a group of Marines from the 26th MEU on September 2nd. Before Puerto Rico got hit, they evacuated about two thousand people from hospitals in St. Thomas, delivered supplies, cleared some roads, and delivered aid and evacuated people in other areas of the Caribbean and the Keys.

Caught a glimpse of him listening in Puerto Rico listening to someone important yap last week when I saw a picture that the 26th MEU posted on their Facebook page. He's been in Puerto Rico for over a week and has been working pretty much dawn to dusk clearing roads and helping people get to hospitals and whatever else he's told to do.

"Go clear roads"

Clearing roads

Delivering supplies

Setting up water purification systems

Restoring power

Delivering diesel fuel to hospitals.

 

[notredamerises23]

Weakened the country domestically and overseas. We were a laughingstock. Going to take years to clean up his mess.

Weakened how? What “mess”? There are no specifics here.

 

[TDIrish27]

You tell them 23.

Here's a suggestion----draw a " line in the sand "

That one seems to work no ?

 

[ivan brunetti]

Yes. Thanks for all you have done and said.

 

[Pennick44]

Weakened how? What “mess”? There are no specifics here.

The fact that you are asking this question speaks to your lack of brain power.

 

[Telx1]

Irishjd...thanks for sharing. Based on what I’ve read and heard from FEMA reps, that picture of them clearing a road is being repeated thousands of times. Blocked roads, wiped out roads, wiped out bridges are making it extremely difficult to get food and water and health supplies to those in need. Just wish the media that loves to criticize any and all things Trump, would detail these problems and efforts while reporting on all the supplies sitting idle at staging grounds and docks, etc... many thanks to your son and all the civilian and military personnel working their butts off to make a difference.

 

[NDskins]

I am Canadian, I have a conservative view. I hate the party in power (Liberals) in my country and province as they are corrupt and incompetent, but I can say with certainty as least they are not Trump. He is hiring his incompetent and corrupt family (nepotism). Using and promoting his business (conflict of interest, business ethics). He show neither empathy or sympathy for those in need (hurricane Harvey and Irma). These are the good parts about him.........

 

[deadirishpoet]

I am Canadian, I have a conservative view. I hate the party in power (Liberals) in my country and province as they are corrupt and incompetent, but I can say with certainty as least they are not Trump. He is hiring his incompetent and corrupt family (nepotism). Using and promoting his business (conflict of interest, business ethics). He show neither empathy or sympathy for those in need (hurricane Harvey and Irma). These are the good parts about him.........

The problem is there was no other choice than someone who was far more corrupt.

I don't like the fact that his son-in-law and daughter are in there and I think eventually they will be out.

I don't think you're giving him a fair shhake in regards to the hurricane though.
his responses were appropriate

 

[rivals50]

For the mighty fine geography lesson he gave to all of us. " Puerto Rico is an island in an ocean, a really big ocean "....

with big water

 

[NDskins]

The problem is there was no other choice than someone who was far more corrupt.

I don't like the fact that his son-in-law and daughter are in there and I think eventually they will be out.

I don't think you're giving him a fair shhake in regards to the hurricane though.
his responses were appropriate

Believe it or not, I told people who were against trump to give him a chance. I said he did what he did to get elected, lets give him a chance to show what he could do. He didn't show much. He seems to only want to undo everything Obama did without a plan to replace it with anything better. Just more concern of erasing anything that has to do with Obama. With control of the whitehouse, senate and congress how can he not have worked with his own republican party members to do something to bring your country back on better financial footing.

And his rants on twitter, feels like a bratty 12 year old that didn't get his way and is acting out.

 

[shabak]

Believe it or not, I told people who were against trump to give him a chance. I said he did what he did to get elected, lets give him a chance to show what he could do. He didn't show much. He seems to only want to undo everything Obama did without a plan to replace it with anything better. Just more concern of erasing anything that has to do with Obama. With control of the whitehouse, senate and congress how can he not have worked with his own republican party members to do something to bring your country back on better financial footing.

And his rants on twitter, feels like a bratty 12 year old that didn't get his way and is acting out.

The Republican Congress had years to come up,with a plan to,repeal Obamacare care and to,install,a tax cut cut and did.... ZERO. Don’t blame Trump.

 

[Telx1]

Believe it or not, I told people who were against trump to give him a chance. I said he did what he did to get elected, lets give him a chance to show what he could do. He didn't show much. He seems to only want to undo everything Obama did without a plan to replace it with anything better. Just more concern of erasing anything that has to do with Obama. With control of the whitehouse, senate and congress how can he not have worked with his own republican party members to do something to bring your country back on better financial footing.

And his rants on twitter, feels like a bratty 12 year old that didn't get his way and is acting out.

I think a lot of people keep wrongly believing Trump is a Republican or Conservative. He is a populist with almost no ideological commitment. He ran to the right to get the nomination, and once elected, Schumer and the stupid resist movement among Dems in Congress pushed him further to the right, just to get things done. Now that these have stalled, he makes overtures to “Chuck and Nancy” to see if he can get a deal working through them. The country has evolved politically to where the two party system may not work anymore, as we have the right and left and the middle, and neither the right or left are inclined to compromise with the middle to get things done. And Trump the populist is unable to get the right to work with his Party moderates, much less with the middle or moderates in the Dem Party, and not sure any President would do much better with Congress in this environment. I’m increasingly of the opinion that the Parliamentary system of votes of confidence and no confidence where varied interests are forced to come together to form the ruling Party and government May be a better model in today’s US. At a minimum, the 60 vote or filibuster rule should probably be changed to allow for 51 votes to pass any legislation so we can hold the President and the majority more accountable for their actions. For the present, we are left with a tweeting narcissist with no ideological or moral compass leading our country in really challenging times; and yet, I agree with DIP that he is better than the corrupt and left leaning alternative we provided ourselves.

 

[Irish Duck]

He won the election. Of coarse he belongs there. It can be no worse than president Obama

It can be worse and, in fact, it is worse...a lot worse.

 

[Irish Duck]

ECHO...there are plenty of things Trump is doing or saying of a policy nature that you disagree with, so why come here and post a simple sentence he uttered in the context of answering stupid questions about our response to the needs of Puerto Rico? If reporters don't understand and appreciate the logistic differences of responding to Puerto Rico as compared to Houston, then I see nothing wrong with the President explaining it in elementary school level terms.

The only logistical differences between PR and Texas are the restrictions imposed by the Jones Act. Trump was slow to suspend the Jones Act for purposes of getting relief to the American citizens in the PR and when he finally did, he only limited it for 10 days. Either he is a complete moron (as his Sec'ty. of State believes) or a racist (as most of America believes).

 

[TDIrish27]

Define doing nothing while a quarter of a million Christians got slaughtered in the Mideast?

 

[XGoBearcatsX]

Trump is a total waste of space who will never serve a full term. Everything about his life is surrounded by fraud and corruption and it is a scar on America that 60 million people voted for him and 20 or 30 million still support him.

 

[rgc7]

Believe it or not, I told people who were against trump to give him a chance. I said he did what he did to get elected, lets give him a chance to show what he could do. He didn't show much. He seems to only want to undo everything Obama did without a plan to replace it with anything better. Just more concern of erasing anything that has to do with Obama. With control of the whitehouse, senate and congress how can he not have worked with his own republican party members to do something to bring your country back on better financial footing.

And his rants on twitter, feels like a bratty 12 year old that didn't get his way and is acting out.

 

[rgc7]

A better question would be : “ How could His our Republican Party not work with him ?”
Especially on Repeal and Replace , since the Republicans in Congress we’re promising for the last
7 years that that was exactly what they were going to do.

 

[Irish Duck]

A better question would be : “ How could His our Republican Party not work with him ?”
Especially on Repeal and Replace , since the Republicans in Congress we’re promising for the last
7 years that that was exactly what they were going to do.

The answer is easy. The Republicans never had a plan to replace the ACA. They were politically posturing in filing 70 bills to repeal it without any real substitute. Under Mitch McConnell, the Republicans have become a party that is good at posturing but poor at governing. They are all bark and no bite.

There is no dispute that there are serious problems with the ACA. What Congress (Republicans and Democrats) should be doing is trying to fix what is wrong with it and improve what is right with it. They won't but they should.

 

[Pennick44]

The answer is easy. The Republicans never had a plan to replace the ACA. They were politically posturing in filing 70 bills to repeal it without any real substitute. Under Mitch McConnell, the Republicans have become a party that is good at posturing but poor at governing. They are all bark and no bite.

There is no dispute that there are serious problems with the ACA. What Congress (Republicans and Democrats) should be doing is trying to fix what is wrong with it and improve what is right with it. They won't but they should.

It isn't fixable. Get rid of it.

 

[deadirishpoet]

The answer is easy. The Republicans never had a plan to replace the ACA. They were politically posturing in filing 70 bills to repeal it without any real substitute. Under Mitch McConnell, the Republicans have become a party that is good at posturing but poor at governing. They are all bark and no bite.

There is no dispute that there are serious problems with the ACA. What Congress (Republicans and Democrats) should be doing is trying to fix what is wrong with it and improve what is right with it. They won't but they should.

This Republican Congress is a bunch of clowns

 

[Telx1]

The only logistical differences between PR and Texas are the restrictions imposed by the Jones Act. Trump was slow to suspend the Jones Act for purposes of getting relief to the American citizens in the PR and when he finally did, he only limited it for 10 days. Either he is a complete moron (as his Sec'ty. of State believes) or a racist (as most of America believes).

Duck...you can’t honestly believe this, can you? PR is an Island with a dysfunctional bankrupt government, with a broken infrastructure and inability to provide a local first responder effort. Add in a minimal road system, made worse by areas blocked by trees, and whole sections washed out, and bridges collapsed, with a decrepit energy grid dependent upon above ground poles that were knocked down throughout the Island, etc... and PR represents a very long and costly effort by the Federal government almost entirely absent a local delivery capability. Texas is the polar opposite in almost every way.

 

[Irish Duck]

Duck...you can’t honestly believe this, can you? PR is an Island with a dysfunctional bankrupt government, with a broken infrastructure and inability to provide a local first responder effort. Add in a minimal road system, made worse by areas blocked by trees, and whole sections washed out, and bridges collapsed, with a decrepit energy grid dependent upon above ground poles that were knocked down throughout the Island, etc... and PR represents a very long and costly effort by the Federal government almost entirely absent a local delivery capability. Texas is the polar opposite in almost every way.

Telx1, you bring up some valid points but the fact that they have a dysfunctional, bankrupt government is irrelevant to FEMA's efforts on the ground. The damage is more severe than in Houston but that shouldn't stop FEMA from getting in there and setting up generators that will work and providing potable water where needed. The response by the Federal government has been inadequate so far. I appreciate those that are doing their best but more needs to be done and Trump tossing rolls of paper towels isn't helpful. What would be helpful would be to get rid of the Jones Act in its entirety and allow the free market determine how goods are shipped to and from PR. Of course, that would require the Republican-led WH and Congress to actually practice what the preach in regards to the free market.

I am encouraged that Elon Musk wants to help in setting up an electrical grid based upon solar power. This is something that the Federal government could, and should, help with. Even if this is done as an experiment, we can find out whether or not solar energy is a real alternative on a large scale basis.

PR has many problems but Trump's name calling and inane tweets doesn't do anything to constructively address any of these problems. I look forward to the day that we have an adult in the White House again, whether it is a Republican or Democrat.

 

[Pennick44]

Telx1, you bring up some valid points but the fact that they have a dysfunctional, bankrupt government is irrelevant to FEMA's efforts on the ground. The damage is more severe than in Houston but that shouldn't stop FEMA from getting in there and setting up generators that will work and providing potable water where needed. The response by the Federal government has been inadequate so far. I appreciate those that are doing their best but more needs to be done and Trump tossing rolls of paper towels isn't helpful. What would be helpful would be to get rid of the Jones Act in its entirety and allow the free market determine how goods are shipped to and from PR. Of course, that would require the Republican-led WH and Congress to actually practice what the preach in regards to the free market.

I am encouraged that Elon Musk wants to help in setting up an electrical grid based upon solar power. This is something that the Federal government could, and should, help with. Even if this is done as an experiment, we can find out whether or not solar energy is a real alternative on a large scale basis.

PR has many problems but Trump's name calling and inane tweets doesn't do anything to constructively address any of these problems. I look forward to the day that we have an adult in the White House again, whether it is a Republican or Democrat.

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So nice to have the clueless and talentless Jemelle Hill on our message board.

 

[deadirishpoet]

Telx1, you bring up some valid points but the fact that they have a dysfunctional, bankrupt government is irrelevant to FEMA's efforts on the ground. The damage is more severe than in Houston but that shouldn't stop FEMA from getting in there and setting up generators that will work and providing potable water where needed. The response by the Federal government has been inadequate so far. I appreciate those that are doing their best but more needs to be done and Trump tossing rolls of paper towels isn't helpful. What would be helpful would be to get rid of the Jones Act in its entirety and allow the free market determine how goods are shipped to and from PR. Of course, that would require the Republican-led WH and Congress to actually practice what the preach in regards to the free market.

I am encouraged that Elon Musk wants to help in setting up an electrical grid based upon solar power. This is something that the Federal government could, and should, help with. Even if this is done as an experiment, we can find out whether or not solar energy is a real alternative on a large scale basis.

PR has many problems but Trump's name calling and inane tweets doesn't do anything to constructively address any of these problems. I look forward to the day that we have an adult in the White House again, whether it is a Republican or Democrat.

There hasn't been an adult in the white house since Bush Senior.

Puerto Rico is the definition of a welfare state literally.

 

[11NCs]

The DMZ on the 38th Parallel is 4km (2.5 miles) wide. North Korean border, 2.5 mile "neutral" gap. South Korean border...

I have nothing but complete disdain for that woman, but I don't find anything about that clip to be factually inaccurate, unless I'm missing something?

The border is the border. Even if your comment made sense, there is less than 2 miles from the border to the southern boundary of the DMZ. "Literally miles" is factually inaccurate, Bozo.

 

[ivan brunetti]

The border is the border. Even if your comment made sense, there is less than 2 miles from the border to the southern boundary of the DMZ. "Literally miles" is factually inaccurate, Bozo.

Maybe you should edit the Wiki page if you are sure:

"The Korean Demilitarized Zone (DMZ; Hangul: 한반도 비무장 지대; Hanja: 韓半島非武裝地帶), informally known as the 38th Parallel, is a strip of land running across the Korean Peninsula. It is established by the provisions of the Korean Armistice Agreement to serve as a buffer zone between the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (North Korea) and the Republic of Korea (South Korea). The Demilitarized zone (DMZ) is a border barrier that divides the Korean Peninsula roughly in half. It was created by agreement between North Korea, China and the United Nations in 1953. The DMZ is 250 kilometres (160 miles) long, and about 4 kilometres (2.5 miles) wide."

 

[SiberianKnightmare]

Ultimately, I don't think he really ever knows or cares about what's really going on or any details about any agenda items his party is pushing or discussing. I think the only thing that he cares about and spends time on is the optics of how good of a job he is doing. The irony there is he views his job to be making it look like he is doing a good job at the job he is supposed to be doing.

Which is probably why after a year, a government controlled by the Republican party in all three branches of government hasn't been able to pass a single piece of meaningful legislation and an administration has already gone through so many changes in the cabinet and White House staff in the first 9 month.

It's not confidence inspiring.

And I'm a President homer. I always supported them all regardless of party because its such a hard job. George HW, Bill, George H and Obama. But this dude is making it hard.

 

[deadirishpoet]

Ultimately, I don't think he really ever knows or cares about what's really going on or any details about any agenda items his party is pushing or discussing. I think the only thing that he cares about and spends time on is the optics of how good of a job he is doing. The irony there is he views his job to be making it look like he is doing a good job at the job he is supposed to be doing.

Which is probably why after a year, a government controlled by the Republican party in all three branches of government hasn't been able to pass a single piece of meaningful legislation and an administration has already gone through so many changes in the cabinet and White House staff in the first 9 month.

It's not confidence inspiring.

And I'm a President homer. I always supported them all regardless of party because its such a hard job. George HW, Bill, George H and Obama. But this dude is making it hard.

This Congress is making it hard

 

[11NCs]

Maybe you should edit the Wiki page if you are sure:

"The Korean Demilitarized Zone (DMZ; Hangul: 한반도 비무장 지대; Hanja: 韓半島非武裝地帶), informally known as the 38th Parallel, is a strip of land running across the Korean Peninsula. It is established by the provisions of the Korean Armistice Agreement to serve as a buffer zone between the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (North Korea) and the Republic of Korea (South Korea). The Demilitarized zone (DMZ) is a border barrier that divides the Korean Peninsula roughly in half. It was created by agreement between North Korea, China and the United Nations in 1953. The DMZ is 250 kilometres (160 miles) long, and about 4 kilometres (2.5 miles) wide."

There is nothing in your excerpt from Wikipedia dispelling the FACT that the DMZ is NOT a border, it is a border barrier. Maybe you need to brush up on your understanding of the English language. And by the way, Wikipedia is NOT an authoritative source for anything, Bozo.

 

[SiberianKnightmare]

This Congress is making it hard

If it last more than 4 hours, call a doctor.

 

[SiberianKnightmare]

This Congress is making it hard

But seriously, part of the deal with being President is leading your party. You have to make deals and twist arms to get YOUR party on the same page. All Presidents have done that. Say what you want about Obama, but he was great at it. Trump, the supposed deal maker, is AWFUL at it. Why? Well, because he's used to being the boss. He talks AT people and calls all the shots. In this role, he has to work WITH people. I don't think he has that ability. I really don't. We've seen him try to strong arm his own party and it has backfired horribly. Combine that with him not really digging in to understand any of the details on most issues and you have what we have now.

 

[stu4don]

New Flash: all the young healthy people will jump into Trump's new cheaper health plans that will cherry pick younger, healthier people, leaving plans that cover middle aged, older or people with preexisting conditions to hold the bag -- meaning skyrocketing rates for middle class Americans. Competition will only work if everyone plays by the same rules. And health insurance only works when younger people subsidize us old farts, just like we did when we old farts did when were young.

When I watch Trump rallies I see a lot of older people. Wonder who they'll fare in all of this.

 

[deadirishpoet]

But seriously, part of the deal with being President is leading your party. You have to make deals and twist arms to get YOUR party on the same page. All Presidents have done that. Say what you want about Obama, but he was great at it. Trump, the supposed deal maker, is AWFUL at it. Why? Well, because he's used to being the boss. He talks AT people and calls all the shots. In this role, he has to work WITH people. I don't think he has that ability. I really don't. We've seen him try to strong arm his own party and it has backfired horribly. Combine that with him not really digging in to understand any of the details on most issues and you have what we have now.

President Obama didn't make any deals he had his phone and his pen.
He went around Congress every opportunity he got . He was the master of executive orders. He broke so many laws it's ridiculous but nothing will be done about it because it's very clear the first black president has carte Blanc
I am a Libertarian that leans conservative. This is not my party. He was the only choice.

President Obama talked at people as well (remember Republicans can sit at the back of the bus)/(what he said of the Supreme Court to the Supreme Court) and called all the shots while he had that corrupt bastard Harry Reid be his freaking Log Jam in the Congress
You can't be a deal naker when nobody in Congress wants to make a deal.
Do you really think the Republican party is his party?
He might of ran underneath Republican Banner only because only a couple of the 16 were quality nominees, and he understood Hillary Clinton had the media in her back pocket (seei with what happened with Sanders), can you blame him?
To be honest I don't really believe he thought he had a chance of winning, but since he did he is going to do the will of the people who elected him.
There needs to be term limits to get rid of these professional politicians that are ruining this country
Congress makes the law the president doesn't make the law he only has a voice when that voice is shut down it's all on Congress and to hell with them!

 

[deadirishpoet]

New Flash: all the young healthy people will jump into Trump's new cheaper health plans that will cherry pick younger, healthier people, leaving plans that cover middle aged, older or people with preexisting conditions to hold the bag -- meaning skyrocketing rates for middle class Americans. Competition will only work if everyone plays by the same rules. And health insurance only works when younger people subsidize us old farts, just like we did when we old farts did when were young.

When I watch Trump rallies I see a lot of older people. Wonder who they'll fare in all of this.

Well maybe President Obama and the Democratic Congress shouldn't have put a flawed bill into law to pad the pockets of the insurer's.
And that Republican-led Congress for 7 years turn out to be clowns themselves, and no better than the Democrats

To think the younger population was going to flip the bill for the middle-aged and elder makes no sense you were young once would this of made any sense to you?

Young people are just getting into their lives and don't make as much money as middle-aged. The healthcare situation prior to ACA had problems but the ACA only made it worse in the insurance companies made out even, better go figure.

 

[deadirishpoet]

If it last more than 4 hours, call a doctor.

LMAO Well played

 

[deadirishpoet]

It can be worse and, in fact, it is worse...a lot worse.

Alot worse?
He's trying to clean up the mess from the previous administration.

 

[Irish Duck]

Alot worse?
He's trying to clean up the mess from the previous administration.

DIP, you can't seriously believe that. Trump does nothing for anyone but himself and his overinflated ego. He promises to donate $1M of his own money to hurricane relief in Texas. Gets great press for that and then never makes the donation. He promises to give the family of a fallen soldier $25K of his own money and only does it months and months later after the press starts asking about it. He is petty and immature. He has a couple of people of his staff, i.e., Kelly, TIllerson, McMaster, that are actually adults and have the temperament to actually be leaders. No one else in his administration is anything but a sycophant and/or a liar.

There were certainly faults with the Obama administration but, in comparison to the current mess in D.C., that administration is looking better and better.

 

[HarlemIrish]

I don't know about the overall effort in Puerto Rico, but my son started chasing hurricanes with a group of Marines from the 26th MEU on September 2nd. Before Puerto Rico got hit, they evacuated about two thousand people from hospitals in St. Thomas, delivered supplies, cleared some roads, and delivered aid and evacuated people in other areas of the Caribbean and the Keys.

Caught a glimpse of him listening in Puerto Rico listening to someone important yap last week when I saw a picture that the 26th MEU posted on their Facebook page. He's been in Puerto Rico for over a week and has been working pretty much dawn to dusk clearing roads and helping people get to hospitals and whatever else he's told to do.

"Go clear roads"

Clearing roads

Delivering supplies

Setting up water purification systems

Restoring power

Delivering diesel fuel to hospitals.

Thank your son for his service. I have family on the Western part of the Island.

 

[HarlemIrish]

Well maybe President Obama and the Democratic Congress shouldn't have put a flawed bill into law to pad the pockets of the insurer's.
And that Republican-led Congress for 7 years turn out to be clowns themselves, and no better than the Democrats

To think the younger population was going to flip the bill for the middle-aged and elder makes no sense you were young once would this of made any sense to you?

Young people are just getting into their lives and don't make as much money as middle-aged. The healthcare situation prior to ACA had problems but the ACA only made it worse in the insurance companies made out even, better go figure.

Have you seen what Insurance stocks have done since Barry’s insurance plan went through? Some over 400%