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OT: Isn't this interesting?

ND is justifying the show on the grounds of academic freedom. That sounds reasonable.

the Film, Television, and Theater Department will host a drag show on campus on Nov. 3, following the conclusion of a one-credit class called "What a Drag: Drag on Screen — Variations and Meanings."

Students concerned about the university's Catholic identity have begun an email petition as part of a campaign to persuade the school's administration to withdraw funding for the event
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The Department is hosting a show for entertainment? That does not sound like academics to me, that is entertainment and endorsement. Here a thought exercise; what if the department decided to host a minstrel show?
Were the director/cast of "Sounds of Freedom" offered to speak there. If not hopefully soon
 
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Absolutely a complete disgrace. This tells you everything you need to know about who is running the university. ND is no longer unique. Just pathetic to not only allow this but worse, sponsor it.
 
Absolutely a complete disgrace. This tells you everything you need to know about who is running the university. ND is no longer unique. Just pathetic to not only allow this but worse, sponsor it.

It’s a weird world we live in and it seems the squeaky wheel is always getting more grease.
 
It’s a weird world we live in and it seems the squeaky wheel is always getting more grease.
For me it’s simple. You are the leader of a Catholic institution. Stand by the values you are supposed to teach. Utterly absurd those in charge would promote this.
 
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For me it’s simple. You are the leader of a Catholic institution. Stand by the values you are supposed to teach. Utterly absurd those in charge would promote this.
Which Catholic institution
The Pope might think this is acceptable and the European Catholics would agree, or the America Catholic dioceses which this pope is not to fond of because they are too conservative
 
Not surprised. The school has changed from 20/30 years ago. I also think ND is losing its subway alumni also.
I read where the loss is due to the lack of a new
generation fanbase not losing what's there at least that's is how I took it, though ratings prove otherwise for now
 
A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything - Malcolm X

Someday’s I truly believe we are in the beginning of the end times with the way things are headed. I try not to judge people for their differences, but these are perversions whether or not someone else believes it according to MY BELIEFS. May God have mercy on ALL of us for what we’ve become as a society. Sodom and Gomorrah who?
 
Which Catholic institution
The Pope might think this is acceptable and the European Catholics would agree, or the America Catholic dioceses which this pope is not to fond of because they are too conservative.
The pope sets the bar. I for one am not a fan of him
 
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have you noticed (in reference to Joseph) that "husband" has been replaced by "spouse" in the Mass?
 
A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything - Malcolm X

Someday’s I truly believe we are in the beginning of the end times with the way things are headed. I try not to judge people for their differences, but these are perversions whether or not someone else believes it according to MY BELIEFS. May God have mercy on ALL of us for what we’ve become as a society. Sodom and Gomorrah who?
When you let in those who don't assimilate you allow them to fracture the foundation. Coming here to become a citizen legally you learn America prior to your nationalization.
It's to easy to say both parties are guilty no matter how true it is.
Much like our national debt the amount of illegals here just today alone have become a point of no return unless we as Americans are willing to make the biggest sacrifice to tighten our belts fiscally (everyone takes a hit) and remove every illegals person (which will cause worldwide condemnations possible sections against us and the turmoil within).
Does our youth even get to enjoy the America I grew up in....no that won't happen but the insanity of a single person identifying as a plural entity, or not excepting chromosomes to identify what you are and embracing men have minstrel cycles by putting Kotex in mens room and allowing men to enter a place specifically for actual women not to mention competing against women .
How do those that run higher education except this but allow it straight faced
 
I'm of the mindset that people can live their lives how they want even if I may not agree with it, but as a Catholic, I'm disgusted by a CATHOLIC (PRIVATE) university allowing this. If a public university wants to allow this, that's perfectly fine, let them. The Church has its position on this and Notre Dame should be aligning themselves with that position instead of going against it. And to be able to earn an academic credit, when they refuse to make exceptions for its athletic teams is hypocritical to say the least.
 
I'm of the mindset that people can live their lives how they want even if I may not agree with it, but as a Catholic, I'm disgusted by a CATHOLIC (PRIVATE) university allowing this. If a public university wants to allow this, that's perfectly fine, let them. The Church has its position on this and Notre Dame should be aligning themselves with that position instead of going against it. And to be able to earn an academic credit, when they refuse to make exceptions for its athletic teams is hypocritical to say the least.
I'm disgusted you are disgusted. You seem ignorant of something you do not understand. How many drag shows have you personally attended? How much of your information about them have you been SPOON FED by biased sources designed to get you DISGUSTED about the topic.
 
When you let in those who don't assimilate you allow them to fracture the foundation. Coming here to become a citizen legally you learn America prior to your nationalization.
It's to easy to say both parties are guilty no matter how true it is.
Much like our national debt the amount of illegals here just today alone have become a point of no return unless we as Americans are willing to make the biggest sacrifice to tighten our belts fiscally (everyone takes a hit) and remove every illegals person (which will cause worldwide condemnations possible sections against us and the turmoil within).
Does our youth even get to enjoy the America I grew up in....no that won't happen but the insanity of a single person identifying as a plural entity, or not excepting chromosomes to identify what you are and embracing men have minstrel cycles by putting Kotex in mens room and allowing men to enter a place specifically for actual women not to mention competing against women .
How do those that run higher education except this but allow it straight faced
Prepare for terrorist attacks within the United States. It's just a matter of time. 8 million illegal aliens in USA in 3 years via open border policy . FBI Director Wray admitted that Hamas /:Hezbollah cells are already here. Who could have known that if you invite terrorists in through an open border that they would enter the country. It's all by accident... World on verge of WW3. But thank God we don't have the mean tweets...
 
I'm disgusted you are disgusted. You seem ignorant of something you do not understand. How many drag shows have you personally attended? How much of your information about them have you been SPOON FED by biased sources designed to get you DISGUSTED about the topic.

“You seem ignorant of something you don’t understand.” Well, that’s the definition of ignorance so what’s your point? Not sure how that’s so disgusting. Would you rather he be stupid?

“How many drag shows have you personally attended?” None. Why would I? I don’t have to experience everything to have an opinion on what’s right for me and what isn’t. I’d assume it involves in some way having men run around dressed and acting like women. Count me out if so.

How much of your information about them have you been SPOON FED by biased sources designed to get you DISGUSTED about the topic.

Not sure honestly. My kids think certain vegetables are disgusting and try to convince me of it. I still like eating vegetables despite them being green in most cases. I still have my own opinions and convictions. I stand with them regardless.




Would you have the same exact opinion if Notre Dame was allowing a show discussing the importance of black face in theatrical history? What would be your thoughts on such a class?
 
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I'm disgusted you are disgusted. You seem ignorant of something you do not understand. How many drag shows have you personally attended? How much of your information about them have you been SPOON FED by biased sources designed to get you DISGUSTED about the topic.

It's called Autogynephilia.......look it up.
I don't care what fetishist people have in their private places, when it is brought into light and normalized history has shown that society destroys itself.
 
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I'm of the mindset that people can live their lives how they want even if I may not agree with it, but as a Catholic, I'm disgusted by a CATHOLIC (PRIVATE) university allowing this. If a public university wants to allow this, that's perfectly fine, let them. The Church has its position on this and Notre Dame should be aligning themselves with that position instead of going against it. And to be able to earn an academic credit, when they refuse to make exceptions for its athletic teams is hypocritical to say the least.
Total embarrassment. The old saying - Some people are like bad company. They can’t leave soon enough
 
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