Notre Dame Has Absolutely Improved Its Recruiting Under Marcus Freeman
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Overall, I would tend to agree -- ND was not getting to the types of kids ND is seeing now (Kelly liked to shop down a different aisle -- lol). I am glad to see him swinging for the fences and battling the big boys --
"Marcus Freeman's first two classes signed 45 total players. Of that group, 82.2% were four or five-star recruits.
In Brian Kelly's five seven classes, only 54.4% of the signees were four or five-star recruits."
Now, the important steps need to occur -- he (MF) needs to continue to develop as a HC, and more importantly, develop the talent he is getting in.
"Marcus Freeman's first two classes signed 45 total players. Of that group, 82.2% were four or five-star recruits.
In Brian Kelly's five seven classes, only 54.4% of the signees were four or five-star recruits."
Now, the important steps need to occur -- he (MF) needs to continue to develop as a HC, and more importantly, develop the talent he is getting in.
Kelly landed a half dozen five star players. He had a top 3 class. Also, Kelly’s last class at ND was better than Freemans first. Driskell talks like he can read data but likely never went to college. Twisting facts bc he hated BK makes him feel better but still wrong. Just bc Freeman works harder recruiting doesn’t make him better at it. Just like grunting loudly while lifting doesn’t mean you’re cool.
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22 and 23 classes are Freemans. They are 2 of the 4 best we have signed in the past 13 years
Coincidence, dont think so. Thats the Freeman effect. And we're seeing it in the 24 class as well. 2 top 50 kids already committed
Theres no doubt recruiting is better. Now we still need it to take another jump
"88ND, is this another one of your shots at BK?"
What -- 88, taking a shot at BK? NAH -- lol
‘22 class is NOT his.
Had it been a terrible class you’d simply call it Kelly’s. BK was the coach up until the last few weeks. All freeman did was help as all assistant coaches do.
This is true. having said that swarbrick caved in part due to threats by sneed and a couple others to bail if freeman didn’t stay. So I give freeman credit for being the best recruiter on the team but it wasn’t his class
Absolutely was. The defensive class was his completely. He closed on Schrauth and Payne who were his commits only. And he kept the offensive class together when they could have jumped like a lot of kids do when a coaching change happens.
Absolutely his class
Stop with this nonsense about half dozen five star players. He didn’t do it in one year. He averaged one every 2 years
So Carr is back liking ND tweets so you have to respond like this?
Freeman getting credit for Kelly’s 2022 class means you might as well take credit away from freeman since Rees landed all our 2023 offensive players. But you won’t do that because it doesn’t fit your flawed argument. Idiots on here.
Freeman is not a needle moving recruiter or coach. Period. Hes not going to get credit for Kelly’s 2022 class. He’s simply a guy you like for any variety of reasons.
Freeman is not a needle moving recruiter or coach. Period. Hes not going to get credit for Kelly’s 2022 class. He’s simply a guy you like for any variety of reasons.
Unfortunately Bama pulled his trousers down on National tv!
Stop. We all know why you hate Freeman. Your hood is showing once again.
You aren't reading what he writes do you? He just said Freeman wasnt a needle moving recruiter. Then he'll say he is, responding to himself.
Hes a joke. Its like you dont read
We will see. Yet you stated in previous posts that Freeman was comparably worse after Year 1, which he isn’t. That is false. You should look at the blue chip (percentage of 4 and 5 star players in recruiting class) ratio that Sampson posted, Freeman’s effect is noticeable:
23: 83.3%
22: 81.8%
21: 51.9%
20: 52.9%
19: 72.7%
18: 51.9%
17: 47.6%
16: 43.5%
15: 60.9%
14: 69.6%
13: 82.6%
12: 62.5%
11: 47.8%
10: 30.4%
^So since Freeman arrived, the recruiting results are as good/better than the ONE best Kelly year. In fact they are way better than the previous 8 years.
So stop
Yeah. It's very obvious to see
Still need another jump but clearly our recruiting is better since Freeman arrived
Fact: BK made a title game within 3 years. Fact: BK had a top 3 class within 3 years. I don’t give a **** what your stats say.
Lol of course you don’t Karine Jeanne-a Pierre, doesn’t fit your narrative. Let’s await season 3 and compare head to head. Though I hope Freeman fares better then BK did against the big 4. Oh wait, he already beat Clemson
He didn’t sniff either for the next 9 years but hey 1/12 ain’t bad!
lol, had to come back here
Fact: Freeman only coached as HC one year, so comparing year 3 is senseless. Come back after year 3. Fact: Freeman only coached as HC one year, so holding BK's #3 class in year 3 as a barometer is senseless. Come back in year 3.
Now I will add a few more facts for the rest of the posters, since you ignore data that you don't like, aka Sleepy Joe. Fact: Freeman's recruit average last year at 3.83 would put him 4th. It would also beat every year of BK except the 2012 year that you hold so dear. Its a shame that BK followed that up with 7 consecutive years of recruiting that ended between 11-22. Way to cherry-pick the diamond in the pile of quartzes.
Now if he and the staff can only take it to another level and get[and keep] top level players on D and O with no let downs[ such as poor Safety recruiting but maybe getting an unexpected gem here and there] . I do think Minchey is a steal and eases Moore going elsewhere. P.Bowen is a headcase, so that was avoided much like Williams and Walker the year before. Yet the drop off of the D line recruiting top notch players is gonna bite ND. The lack of great kickers hurts too. The O line for all its talent seems always sluggish out of the gate and takes 6 games to gel together. Maybe it's the need to get nasty Q.Nelson types that we lack.Freeman expends a lot of energy but is he closing the gaps. South Carolina nearly beat us.
There hasn't been a recruiting drop off at DL.
Kicking will be fine. We can use the portal
Last year the OL took 2.5 games, not 6
Recruiting rankings are meaningless if your win/loss record isn’t exceptional.
It’s the score at the end of the game that counts, not where you ranked according to some subjective poll !
It’s the score at the end of the game that counts, not where you ranked according to some subjective poll !
