Not one Brady Quinn - Joel klatt thread?
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too busy talking politics.
Was glad to see Quinn respond and not hold anything back. Do wish he would point out that schools like UNC are also on the "Top 30 " list and they obviously do not require their students to attend class...... on the basketball team anyway.
Was glad to see Quinn respond and not hold anything back. Do wish he would point out that schools like UNC are also on the "Top 30 " list and they obviously do not require their students to attend class...... on the basketball team anyway.
Didn't Quinn have a double major?
Here's the link to the radio spot for those who haven't heard it.
http://foxsportsradio.iheart.com/co...t-agree-with-joel-klatts-notre-dame-comments/
I agree that there should be no excuses. But Quinn is abosolutely correct in stating that ND holds the players to a higher standard. That's not an excuse that's a fact. With that said ND should be winning more than they are. I'm not going to go into detail, but go look at each year Kelly has been the coach. There are many games in which his decisions directly affected the outcome in a bad way. Two of the 8 win seasons should have been 10 win seasons. Even last year, how many of those games were the Irish in control only to fall apart at the end. The talent is there. Kelly needs to let them play loose and have fun. It's a game! every team I ever played on that had fun playing, usually played well and won most of the time. I always liked the players comments when Holtz coached. They would say playing the game on Saturday was fun compared to practice. Practice is where Holtz would prep you. By gametime you were ready to go. I think most if not all elite coaches realize that games are won from Monday to Friday. Saturday is the end result. If the Irish can put the hard work in each week, I believe they will win a lot of games this year. It really comes down to one thing. Attitude! How bad do you want it?
1) Charlie Weis is a fat loser that wishes he could be an athlete or an actual winner.
Did he talk about his pedigree again?
He stole close to 60 million dollars by being one of the best frauds of all-time.
He played Kevin White like a fool
Kevin White pulled the best disappearing act of all time as he ran ND into the ground.
Now he's a well paid secretary of coach K.
I'm mean athletic director.
Bottom line:
Weis wishes he could see his own co*k
2) Cowturd loves to stir up drama with Notre Dame because it equals ratings, eyeballs and attention.
3) Klatt is a good football analyst and I think he's actually been pro Notre Dame when I've heard him.
Glad BQ buried him on his top 5 QB's without the heisman winner.
Did he talk about his pedigree again?
He stole close to 60 million dollars by being one of the best frauds of all-time.
He played Kevin White like a fool
Kevin White pulled the best disappearing act of all time as he ran ND into the ground.
Now he's a well paid secretary of coach K.
I'm mean athletic director.
Bottom line:
Weis wishes he could see his own co*k
2) Cowturd loves to stir up drama with Notre Dame because it equals ratings, eyeballs and attention.
3) Klatt is a good football analyst and I think he's actually been pro Notre Dame when I've heard him.
Glad BQ buried him on his top 5 QB's without the heisman winner.
Charlie Weis stole nothing. His agent played White and got a great deal for his client. That is what he is supposed to do.
Joel Klatt is a moron.
He's hard on ND & knows what we can be. He is tired of the mediocrity and excuses. He was right. No more excuses
Brady Quinn is extremely smart and articulate (although it's a pity he sucked so badly for my KC Chiefs), but despite his passionate argument, he didn't really effectively quash the idea of ND's excuse making for the relative mediocrity on the field. Despite Notre Dame's exacting academic demands and rigid standards of conduct, the football team has fielded squads that should have enjoyed so many more victories on the field. Its personnel is usually more talented than that of its opponents. Boneheaded decisions to go for 2 points, ill advised passes into the endzone, absurd time management, and being caught flatfooted on trick plays are things that cannot be rationalized because of tough academic standards.
Go Brady!! Things might get a little awkward and/or heated at the Fox Sports Christmas party this year. Quinn didn't hold back and took some direct shots at Klatt. Good for him.
As always - outsiders think they know it all and don't believe that Notre Dame is an academics-first institution. And that's because they are just that - outsiders. Those who have attended and also played a major sport know the truth.
The recent comments by UCLA QB Josh Rosen back up Quinn's comments regarding how other programs get athlete's "qualified" and that there are players on some teams who have no business being in college or those just using college as a path to the NFL.
As always - outsiders think they know it all and don't believe that Notre Dame is an academics-first institution. And that's because they are just that - outsiders. Those who have attended and also played a major sport know the truth.
The recent comments by UCLA QB Josh Rosen back up Quinn's comments regarding how other programs get athlete's "qualified" and that there are players on some teams who have no business being in college or those just using college as a path to the NFL.
53, I agree w/ you and klatt as far as "no more excuses", but he's not "pro-ND". At least he hasn't seemed that way when I've heard him. Like I said, I thought this way before this latest take of his. Definitely could be wrong, but after Brady taking a shot at him, I expect him to bash away at ND and Brady. We'll see. I'll stand corrected if he is indeed pro-ND.
Klatt's premise was faulty. To buy his theory you'd have to assume that every school admits scholarship athletes in some sort of proportion to the criteria used to admit non-athlete students. The reality is that many very highly rated academic schools, say Michigan and North Carolina as examples, use the same NCAA minimum academic requirements that Bohunk State University uses.
That wouldn't include Stanford, which has been the most successful academically prestigious program over the past decade. Academics aside, ND has no excuse for blowing so many games under Kelly. They have had the horses, but not the jockey....or something like that.
I never use it as an excuse. But it is a reality. The problem is, the frequency with which people talk about our academic challenges is in direct inverse proportion to our record on the field. So the outside world simply sees it as whining and making excuses for a poor performance.
Maybe you don't use it as an excuse, but many others do. Academics might hamper ND from attaining elite championship mettle status, but that has nothing to do with how we lost to Tulsa, Duke, Northwestern, Louisville, Pittsburgh, FSU in the Champs Bowl, Navy (twice), Michigan State (2), Stanford, NC State, VaTech, and Michigan, which constitutes more than an entire season's worth of shoot-yourself-in-the-footedness. I remember one time in a bar where Oklahoma scored a touchdown against ND and an ND fan uttered "at least ND players can spell 'touchdown.'" It was really quite embarrassing.
Quinn is abosolutely on the money. Here's the key. The frozen 5, Alize Mack and Golson were all disciplined by ND not the NCAA. There aren't many schools who would suspend players for what these guys did let alone suspend " star" players. Academics at ND is for real. Again, that is no excuse for mediocre football. However it is a reality you want play sports at ND. You don't pass, you don't play.
