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Perse- I agree it was amazingly poor judgment and just not a smart way to handle the situation. It confuses me because half the time through the process JW's pr people had him saying the right things and doing the right things in preparation for the draft. That photo and the ESPN interview are just mind numbingly bad PR moves that do not make sense to me. I just don't see who was disrespected by it.
 
'good sense', was disrespected. And he indirectly did nothing to improve the attitude towards the decision to daft him.

3 top draft prospects are on the board day 2; as far as we know now, they did far far less anti social behavior than JW.
 
Who was it disrespectful of?
'good sense', was disrespected. And he indirectly did nothing to improve the attitude towards the decision to daft him.

3 top draft prospects are on the board day 2; as far as we know now, they did far far less anti social behavior than JW.

Don't you think he looks remorseful?
http://cdn0.dailydot.com/uploaded/images/original/2015/4/30/jameis-winston-crab-legs1.jpg

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There's no guarantees when QBs are drafted very highly. For every Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck, there are Ryan Leafs and Jamarcus Russells. My guess would be that Mariota will turn out like Manning, etc. He seems to have that maturity and work ethic that the great ones usually have. Not so sure about Winston. We'll see how he does.
Questioning Winston's past displays of immaturity is legit and understandable but questioning his work ethic, film study, ability to learn the playbook and FB IQ shows you don't really know anything about Winston. He's been complimented by those who know him, coaches at every level and teammates for his off-the-charts work ethic and study habits.
 
You're losing your grip. Take a break.
PS I was with Cam McD at 2 private workouts recently. He's looking pretty solid and has had private workouts with the Cowboys and the Texans this past month. I think he can help a team. He runs the first 10 yards like a bullet. PS He is the proud father of a beautiful little girl Emori born April 5 or 4?.... She is beyond beautiful.
 
Questioning Winston's past displays of immaturity is legit and understandable but questioning his work ethic, film study, ability to learn the playbook and FB IQ shows you don't really know anything about Winston. He's been complimented by those who know him, coaches at every level and teammates for his off-the-charts work ethic and study habits.

I wasn't questioning his FB IQ, only his maturity and work ethic. Now if what you say is true about his work ethic, then maybe he'll be successful. But it seems like he does need to work on his maturity, which relates to leadership as well.
 
Winston is a pig! He will flop in the NFL just as most every pig with his issues has flopped. Rapistberger is an exception, but he will also get his some day for what the vulgar things he did which will forever link him to the likes of a clown like Winston.

Winston=Rapistberger=OJ= Bowden=CJ Williams=LowLifes...all birds of a feather!
 
FYI, before mo1e lies about Grudens own words.........

The coach who won a Super Bowl with the Buccaneers thinks the quarterback who has the best chance to lead Tampa Bay back to the top is Marcus Mariota, not Jameis Winston.

Jon Gruden says that Mariota does everything a quarterback needs to do, and should be viewed as the top player in the draft.

“I don’t understand why [Mariota] isn’t the No. 1 playerin this draft on Mel Kiper’s Big Board,” Gruden said, via Rotoworld.

Gruden disagrees with those who think Mariota is a product of Oregon’s offense and not a fit for the NFL.

“I don’t know anybody in this draft that can do for a football team what Mariota can do,” Gruden said. “He can read the field. That whole thing about Oregon being a no-huddle, dive-option team, that is just a narrative resulting from a lack of information. The Ducks run a lot of pro-style concepts. Mariota does a lot with the protections. I’ve seen him throw the ball with touch and timing in tight windows.” The former Bucs coach points out that Mariota is the same size as Jameis Winston but runs 4.52 forty. He is incredibly elusive, and man, is he a playmaker and a great competitor. I see him functioning in the pocket, out of the pocket, and if you want to run a zone-read, he’ll rip the defense apart. He is like Russell Wilson, only he is 6-4.”

In other words, Gruden thinks the Buccaneers are going to make a mistake tomorrow night when they pass on Mariota and pick Winston.


Well if Chuckie says it it just MUST be true, right argy?

"There is a player in this years draft that will revolutionize the QB position, and he WILL be picked in the top 2-3". When the top 3 were selected and Chuckies man crush wasn't selected he went absolutely apoplectic. "How can so many general managers be so wrong. How can anybody pass on the best QB prospect in decades"? Well the picks went on and on and his golden boy STILL wasn't picked. The more picks that went by the madder he got and the redder his face became. He was openly mocking the actual NFL draft pro's by the time they got to the mid teens and his boy STILL wasn't picked. "How can so many supposeed professional play evaluators miss on a sure-fire, can't-miss generational player".

Finally at the 22nd pick there was a trade announced. Cleveland had swapped to move up. "With the 22nd pick of the 2014 NFL draft, the Cleveland Browns select Johnny Manziel, QB Texas A&M". Chuckie was beside himself. "THERE WILL BE 21 GENERAL MANAGERS WHO WILL WISH THEY HAD LISTENED TO ME AND THEY WILL ALL BE SORRY THEY PASSED ON THE BESTEST QB SINCE, WELL FOREVER".

How did this prediction work out for old chuckie? You will have to forgive people that actually pay attention to the NFL for laughing at the "advice" and evaluation of gruden.
 
OMG: we need something like the Argusman 'Family Tree';

Does anyone want to give this a try?
 
Winston is a pig! He will flop in the NFL just as most every pig with his issues has flopped. Rapistberger is an exception, but he will also get his some day for what the vulgar things he did which will forever link him to the likes of a clown like Winston.

Winston=Rapistberger=OJ= Bowden=CJ Williams=LowLifes...all birds of a feather!
LOL......

Epictitis=bigfella=dubs=holysmoke=17 other usernames=argusman=delusional crazy nut job disrespected by all
 
Both raped and abused women and are disgraceful human beings. OMG, and the jerks here applaud them.

Sad!
No.... both didn't rape or abuse women.You just made that up.

News flash. You aren't God despite your delusional idea that you are. You aren't judge and jury either. In fact, you are a low life nobody not worth the powder to blow you up with. You are the jerk. Read the posts responding to your crazy a$$ posts. Most from real ND fans. You're an embarrassment to everything ND stands for. Will you ever get it?

Comparing Winston to Bowden is absurd. Bowden is a man of unmatched integrity and one of the most respected coaches (and persons) to ever grace this sport. You'd be hard pressed to ever find anyone (other than your two dozen usernames) to say anything negative about the man's character.

Comparing Winston to OJ shows just how wacked out crazy you really are. OJ is a double murderer and a thief. A criminal. Winston doesn't even have a traffic ticket to his name.

I saw where your feeble attempt to troll Warchant this morning with the same garbage you spew here was deleted by the mods. You get no respect anywhere. Rightfully so.
 
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Bowden and Winston? Rotten people who think that they are above reproach! It is why most realize that FSU was the most corrupt program (stated by many) while Bowden coached and Winston is known the world over as a rapist set free by a community that accepts piggish activity. Both are bums and even Mo1d knows it!
 
Winston is a pig! He will flop in the NFL just as most every pig with his issues has flopped. Rapistberger is an exception, but he will also get his some day for what the vulgar things he did which will forever link him to the likes of a clown like Winston.

Winston=Rapistberger=OJ= Bowden=CJ Williams=LowLifes...all birds of a feather!
What an embarrassment you are! Stop being a jackass!
 
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Bowden and Winston? Rotten people who think that they are above reproach! It is why most realize that FSU was the most corrupt program (stated by many) while Bowden coached and Winston is known the world over as a rapist set free by a community that accepts piggish activity. Both are bums and even Mo1d knows it!
Stop the hell up!
 
I'm starting to get the feeling that some here are more concerned about the doings of Winston than what the ND FB team is doing or will do this upcoming season. Time to get over the obsession with him,pardners.
The Admistrators should just delete this stupid , name calling , non-Notre dame thread...I may have to join Mr. 35 and move to another site ..
Wonder if my ignore list followed me from the old board?
 
Bowden and Winston? Rotten people who think that they are above reproach! It is why most realize that FSU was the most corrupt program (stated by many) while Bowden coached and Winston is known the world over as a rapist set free by a community that accepts piggish activity. Both are bums and even Mo1d knows it!
Don't speak for me idiot. I don't know any such thing and neither does anyone else with an IQ above 60.

Still waiting for one link from you quoting anyone since the beginning of time questioning Bowden's integrity or accusing Bowden of being a cheater or dishonest. Just one.

Still waiting for one piece of evidence from you that supports your Winston is a rapist theory. Just one.

Quit talking out your butt. You continue to embarrass.
 
FYI, before mo1e lies about Grudens own words.........

The coach who won a Super Bowl with the Buccaneers thinks the quarterback who has the best chance to lead Tampa Bay back to the top is Marcus Mariota, not Jameis Winston.

Jon Gruden says that Mariota does everything a quarterback needs to do, and should be viewed as the top player in the draft.

“I don’t understand why [Mariota] isn’t the No. 1 playerin this draft on Mel Kiper’s Big Board,” Gruden said, via Rotoworld.

Gruden disagrees with those who think Mariota is a product of Oregon’s offense and not a fit for the NFL.

“I don’t know anybody in this draft that can do for a football team what Mariota can do,” Gruden said. “He can read the field. That whole thing about Oregon being a no-huddle, dive-option team, that is just a narrative resulting from a lack of information. The Ducks run a lot of pro-style concepts. Mariota does a lot with the protections. I’ve seen him throw the ball with touch and timing in tight windows.” The former Bucs coach points out that Mariota is the same size as Jameis Winston but runs 4.52 forty. He is incredibly elusive, and man, is he a playmaker and a great competitor. I see him functioning in the pocket, out of the pocket, and if you want to run a zone-read, he’ll rip the defense apart. He is like Russell Wilson, only he is 6-4.”

In other words, Gruden thinks the Buccaneers are going to make a mistake tomorrow night when they pass on Mariota and pick Winston.
it's one mans opinion. the only opinion that matters is the one of the tampa bay buccaneers. your unhealthy obsession continues.
 
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The Bucs front office let JW know they were not pleased with his 'dinner menu'.

Who ya gonna believe?
"Buccaneers General Manager Jason Licht said on PFT Live that he didn’t tell Winston to remove the picture from his Instagram account.

“Lovie, myself, ownership, we didn’t,” Licht said. “None of us asked for him to take it off. Maybe he was advised by someone on his end, but no, we didn’t ask for him to take it down. There’s one thing that the nation and the people here in Tampa have learned over the last period of time is Jameis likes crab legs, for sure.”

Licht acknowledged that Winston may have some growing up to do, but that’s par for the course with NFL rookies."

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...y-didnt-tell-jameis-to-delete-crab-leg-photo/
 
Here is a happy man with his favorite meal, his girlfriend and a $25+ million dollar contract including a $16+ million dollar cash bonus.

jameis-winston-crab-legs1.jpg
 
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he should put a big chunk aside for past, present and future Legal Fees.

25 nets about 45-55% for the next N years. Maybe JR can be his financial advisor.

this kid looks ripe for those "hangers on"; whatever 'smarts' he has are left on the football field.

Let's wait 7-8 years and as Andy Rooney used to say, "that's the rest of the story'.
 
How much will he write a check for to avoid facing the scrutiny of a Civil Trial. The real question is who will pay more, the rapist or the school for trying to cover up the rape assault? He'll get his! Karma is a bitch!9
 
How much will he write a check for to avoid facing the scrutiny of a Civil Trial. The real question is who will pay more, the rapist or the school for trying to cover up the rape assault? He'll get his! Karma is a bitch!9
If karma is a bitch then you won't be around to see any of that happen.
 
Winston is a pig! He will flop in the NFL just as most every pig with his issues has flopped. Rapistberger is an exception, but he will also get his some day for what the vulgar things he did which will forever link him to the likes of a clown like Winston.

Winston=Rapistberger=OJ= Bowden=CJ Williams=LowLifes...all birds of a feather!

Quote from Argusman, et al:

"-My knowledge of Notre Dame is minimal? I and my family have been hopnored at half time, has yours?"
 
Winston is a pig! He will flop in the NFL just as most every pig with his issues has flopped. Rapistberger is an exception, but he will also get his some day for what the vulgar things he did which will forever link him to the likes of a clown like Winston.

Winston=Rapistberger=OJ= Bowden=CJ Williams=LowLifes...all birds of a feather!

Quote from Holy Smoke aka big fella fan aka epidicus aka argusman aka a dozen or so others:

"-My knowledge of Notre Dame is minimal? I and my family have been hopnored at half time, has yours?"

Bwahahahahahahahahahah!
 
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