NEW AD Pete Bevacqua admits ND will need to invest heavily in NIL & facilities in order to compete for *football* national titles

[notredame79]

I was a year ahead of you at ND, but my experiences were similar. I can't remember the precise number of the course (I believe it was math 103 or math 104), but the class was universally referred to as Fun with Numbers.

I vaguely remember something like that!!! Lived all 4 years in Grace Hall. Started engineering, still don’t have a clue about differential equations and integrals!!! lol, switched to accounting. Had no clue about internships, didn’t give a poop about GPA…..obviously a BIG MISTAKE. 😢😢😢 None of the people who were “friends” were actually friends. Honestly, I keep praying to wake up back at ND, move to a different dorm on South Quad, and put my grades FIRST instead of pot/getting drunk as often as possible. God not listening 😢😢😢

 

[chaseball]

Why are you responding to your own post?

Because I'm a G

 

[Golson5]

Because I'm a G

Because you have multiple handles

 

[Patrirish]

They are already investing heavily in both. The players are always going to be required to go to class and get a college degree which seperates ND from 99% of the top echelon football programs. That's not going to change.
Can someone explain that to the nitwit OP?

👍

 

[chaseball]

Why are you responding to your own post? Did you think you used one of your other handles?

Sometimes I'll have light bulb moments after i publish a post and will either try to expand on my point, delete something entirely and rephrase, etc. when i quote myself and make a new response its saying "to add to quoted post"

 

[tbonesays]

For example, “Business Math.” Engineering and Science majors were required to take Calculus courses. Students in the Business majors and Arts and Letters majors were not required to take calculus

That seemed to still be the case during my years at ND from 2001 to 2005. But even with those easier classes, there's a baseline level of academic competency that anyone needs to succeed. So there are still some athletes that can only make it at a school where those easy assignments and tests you mention are somehow eliminated from the picture.

There's also the expectation that athletes will live in the same dorms as other students, have a randomly assigned roommate freshman year, etc. I think this expectation makes big NIL deals harder to pitch. A million dollar deal probably seems less appealing when you don't have the option to spend it on a swank living situation.

These obstacles aren't insurmountable, but they matter.

Even the business math you are referring to had calculus. I remember my TA remarking on a certain type of differential equation this is the only division 1 school I know of that teaches this to all athletes.
I was just as lost in 125, and the grade curve was brutal.

 

[banmate6]

Even the business math you are referring to had calculus. I remember my TA remarking on a certain type of differential equation this is the only division 1 school I know of that teaches this to all athletes.
I was just as lost in 125, and the grade curve was brutal.

I have cousins whose kids went to ND and are recent graduates. They tell me there are no watered down degrees, maybe some easier but not easy courses. I also work with ND and Stanford graduates, all confirming consistently you need to be an actual student no matter what the degree.

This simply is not true at many football factories. Where you truly need not study. Paying nominal attention and attendance. You don't even have to be fully matriculated.

I played soccer at a high level. One thing is for sure: the best most certainly were not academically committed. Soccer has evolved to where a pro path means even giving up a lot of the HS experience, college being out.

This is why Croatia with 4M people easily beats a 340M people USA. Our college and HS kids don't stand a chance. Same principle works in college football, freeing athletes from being real students.

I get ND coasted them historically. Started to change at the end of the Holtz era. ND has been paying a performance price ever since.

I don't advocate the semipro path of no education. But a remedial degree, yes. As I always say, it actually serves a Catholic social mission...and cools down a little the hypocrisy of being holier-than-thou in the sordid competition that is NCAA football.

I anticipate getting the usual retorts. I don't know ND. ND is too good for that. ND won't compromise its elite academic brand.



All good by me. But ND isn't winning a NC if it doesn't bridge the talent gap. 1988 speaks loudest on the matter.

 

[john0gaunt]

Fix the OL which has not been a problem for the last 10+ years so it can and will be done.
Get a stud QB.

This Notre Dame team competes with anyone. No upgraded facilities needed.

 

[Patrirish]

I vaguely remember something like that!!! Lived all 4 years in Grace Hall. Started engineering, still don’t have a clue about differential equations and integrals!!! lol, switched to accounting. Had no clue about internships, didn’t give a poop about GPA…..obviously a BIG MISTAKE. 😢😢😢 None of the people who were “friends” were actually friends. Honestly, I keep praying to wake up back at ND, move to a different dorm on South Quad, and put my grades FIRST instead of pot/getting drunk as often as possible. God not listening 😢😢😢

That’s too bad, that was an opportunity lost, hopefully things have improved for you

My freshman year I had calculus at eight in the morning Monday through Friday
We also had Mass check-in three times a week at 7:00 or 7:30

There were no easy classes

Farley, Lyons, Pangborn then off campus.

I entered a naïve freshman and graduated a wiser and married senior.

Now some might consider that a conflict in terms ! 😜

 

[banmate6]

That’s too bad, that was an opportunity lost, hopefully things have improved for you

My freshman year I had calculus at eight in the morning Monday through Friday
We also had Mass check-in three times a week at 7:00 or 7:30

There were no easy classes

Farley, Lyons, Pangborn then off campus.

I entered a naïve freshman and graduated a wiser and married senior.

Now some might consider that a conflict in terms ! 😜

Like I said, there are easier but not easy classes. Same with majors.

I graduated from a very good Jesuit U. I was teacher's assistant and tutor in the Computer Science dept for a while. I worked with athletes, some on scholarship.

Frankly, most struggled. Irony: professor said to give them a C, as long as they reasonably tried. No point in failing them, losing tuition and setting them back...and that the meritorious would still lose nothing here.

A few however were so bad they did get an F and failed out. Mostly because they barely attended, missing exams. Believe me, I don't advocate passing them...but in hindsight, a remedial program would have done them a world of good, an opportunity to progressively get stronger.

Most were good guys. I recall one who simply was ashamed to show up for tests. Pushed his luck as far as possible, before the Professor had enough. This guy needed the basics: core reading, comprehension, analytical thinking, grammar, vocabulary, linear math, logic...maybe in the context of a sports management degree, with some personal finance courses.

Main point: nothing was easy in my Jesuit U. A gating factor on athletic excellence.

 

[SubwaydomerDFW]

I think you're over-selling the perceived commitment from the Pete and Fr Bob, but I get it.. I think they will continue trying to catch the big dogs of CFB.

If they can't do it now with a new NBC contract and record investment from wealthy alumni and former players, then it will never happen.

Just 8-9 years ago ND went from we won't pay players to embracing NIL.

 

[BGI User 756]

Sometimes I'll have light bulb moments after i publish a post and will either try to expand on my point, delete something entirely and rephrase, etc. when i quote myself and make a new response its saying "to add to quoted post"

wish your dad had a light bulb moment and used contraception

 

[sjb75]

wish your dad had a light bulb moment and used contraception

POY, IMO.