ND vs Louisville Odds
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With this year's ND team, I don't bet. You never know which team will show up.
Odds are we still won’t have much of a passing game and Louisville will know this and stack the line making it difficult for us to move the ball
I see us losing in a game similar to Cincinnati 2021. Which was a very winnable game, we will certainly have chances. Just don’t think we convert them.
I agree. Louisville is going to have a field day with Leonard.
It’s just maddening to me that the head coach keeps jamming a square peg into a round hole. Expecting different results. It took til game 4 for RL to throw his first TD of the season. Bring Leonard in as a situational qb. We got a legitimate playoff team that is being held back by poor qb play.
This Saturday , the playoff dream will be over in my opinion and the blame will be on MF.
And Angelli is getting hosed in all of this also. Everytime the kid plays , good things happen.
100% Agree. We are going to need to throw deep with enough regularity (like in the second half) or they will stack the line against the run and sit on short routes. Since we know it, I guess the team knows it--but we will see.
T-BILLS AND BULLION (COINS AND BARS).
Been meaning to ask you. How did VEGAS get the spread SO WRONG on both NIU and Purdue?
Seriously.
Is a Marcus Freeman coached team actually THAT UNPREDICTABLE?
Or does that money merely FOLLOW MOMENTUM as in the FINANCIAL MARKETS?
I made LARGE-SUM credit bets EVERY DAY during my career, but I know LESS THAN ZERO about sports wagering.
The only explanation I can offer is “inconsistency” and I think that goes hand-in-hand with unpredictable.
And then you wonder about the formation of the game plans, offensively and defensively
Notre Dame has a history of hiring head coaches with no prior head, coaching experience
You think they would’ve learned their lesson
I don't know then how anyone could REASONABLY lay down a bet on a Freeman-coached team. Because even if it's not analytics driven but merely MOMENTUM, with Freeman THERE ISN'T ANY MOMENTUM EITHER. He's the master of the 180.
My whole issue with sports betting is the number of VARIABLES which for me makes it more of a RETAIL RISK. The risks I used to take were more WHOLESALE in that they involved a company's performance over a period of time which had a sweet spot to it of NOT TOO SHORT and NOT TOO LONG.
Plus, I was always looking for the closest thing to a SURE THING as I could find.
Which is NOT Marcus Freeman.
MF is unpredictable alright...
But lines in CFB early in the season have been wrong since they began doing this nonsense.
Many people only gamble early in the cfb season and make some dough and wait until the next year.
Been going on since the stupid pre season and or early season AP polls...Teams ranked based on reputation and perception instead of reality.
Nothing new here.
As the season goes Sam ACE Rothstein will get the line much more accurate.
I see this as another low scoring game with someone getting a late FG or TD to seal it. ND's defense can keep them in it but they'll be on the field a long time and eventually miss a coverage or something. I hate to say it, but unless Riley suddenly is able to pass the ball for more than 8-10 yards, I see Louisville winning by 3 late in the game.
I don’t bet games, but surprised ND is favored. Louisville has a fast front four, especially on the edges, and Knapp and Pendleton are going to struggle to keep a pocket around Leonard. This only feeds Leonard’s tendency to vacate the pocket and he hasn’t shown the ability to look downfield when he’s outside the pocket, nor has he shown any passing accuracy when rolling out. He needs to make Louisville play honest defense and respect the pass by hitting a couple downfield passes early on, and he has shown he needs a comfortable pocket to step up into to make these passes. As much as I love our talented running backs, I think we need to open this game with a combination of designed Leonard runs and downfield passes. The play of Knapp and Pendleton will be critical to the success of both, and that’s asking a lot. Depenbrock and Rudolph are going to earn their pay this week.
We've played the harder schedule. We have more talent. We're at home. We should be favored. 4 is a good number
There's value to be had in the uncertainty though.
Despite all the ups and downs of the season, ND is producing to a 10th ranked overall team, which is consistent with much of the last 5 years
a tier 1/national championship quality team would beat this Louisville team at home handily. If its a "tough fought game vs a tough ACC Louisville team" (a 1 possession type game) then it will cement NDs status as a back end tier 2 team.
You really need
to stop this F+P+lbgtqpb nonsense.
Alabama...which is (NDsouth) to a few posters on this site...
Have their fair share of "close games"
FG wins against some very pedestrian teams. Did that break your system?
The same stupid system that had Alabama ranked ahead of Clemson even after Clemson embarrassed them in the NC game.
Have you ever played and or coached the game?
There are many intangibles that your little formula can't factor.
The biggest one is rankings based on perception and reputation.
Another factor that makes your alphabet system irrelevant is now more than ever good talent is littered throughout all of D1.
Kids no longer want to "wait their turn" at any position.
If we beat Louisville by 1 point or 25 points it won't change one thing.
We will still have a third tailback who runs hard and a starting QB that can't throw the football with accuracy or zip.
It's the same guy.
Agreed.
And, if you'll pardon the OBVIOUS TRUISM, what's INDICATIVE of performance today isn't always PREDICTIVE of performance tomorrow. NOT BY A LONG SHOT. I mean, we did have A&M followed by NIU.
There's the Racing Form's past performance charts -- but then there's also those TORN UP STUBS.
Power rankings look backwards at a FROZEN MOMENT.
Seasons PROCEED, and games are won ON THE FIELD not via COMPARATIVE POWER RANKINGS.
I had checked the opening line on Saturday evening on Vegas Insider and ND was favored -9.5.
It quickly dropped overnight, as money must have flooded to Louisville., and now money is going back to ND. Should be an interesting game.
If it was any other game I would have taken the +9.5 and bet Louisville, but I can't bet against ND.
I'd love to see us run run run run. Don't bang your head against the wall trying to find a passing game that may not even exist.
Run Leonard. Run Love. Run Price.
See if the OL can bully Louisville. Don't turn it over. Win the LOS. Keep the D fresh and let them play with favorable field position.
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Irish, I agree; but I think Leonard needs to burn their collective asses a couple times early with successful downfield throws. Knapp and Pendleton are struggling, especially Knapp, a true freshman who added something like 30 lbs to get to 290. I think his future is as a guard or center, so we’re asking a lot of this young man, and his struggles with pass protection really shows this. But we have to keep Louisville’s defense honest and not allow them to throw eight players at our OL to overwhelm our run blocking like last year, where our run total was a season low of something like 44 yards!
And the 3 throws that drew PIs that game. He threw downfield 4x and 1 was a TD and the other 3x resulted in PIs
Yea until you come up against a defense that can line up enough bodies up at the line and stop it. Then it becomes another embarrassing blow out.
Prior to that game last year, I looked at Hartman's performance against Louisville the year before with Wake.
Hartman was 20-35, 271 yards 1 TD 3 INT in 2022
2023 Hartman was 22-38, 254 yards, 2TD 3INT
2023 Riley Leonard vs Louisville was 9-23, 121 yards, 0 TD 1 INT oh and 10 rushes for 13 yards. They shut him down, but he had the ankle injury.
2024 Riley Leonard ?
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