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2.5 point favorites. That seems low. I would have thought 6-8 points at least. I’d think the low number is mostly due to Miami bringing in Carson Beck and ND having uncertainty at QB.

Miami was 10-3 last year. They probably would have beaten Iowa State had Cam Ward played the second half (Ward is now gone and was a huge factor in their success). All close losses. A new defensive coordinator for 2025. However, they also should have lost to California and Virginia Tech last year.

If ND can just start 2-0 with wins over Miami and Texas A&M, ya feel pretty darn good about the playoffs. 10-2 should pretty much lock in ND.
 
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When is the last time we have won at Miami? Miami has won big down there since the 1980s. We have 4 tough games in the first half of the year. It's a new season.
 
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When is the last time we have won at Miami? Miami has won big down there since the 1980s. We have 4 tough games in the first half of the year. It's a new season.
ND only played Miami @ Miami in 2017. Before that, the last time was in 1989. I don’t think that’s particularly relevant but 1977 is the answer. ND just beat Penn State there if that counts for anything. It’s a small stadium so I don’t see the crowd being a huge factor.
 
ND only played Miami @ Miami in 2017. Before that, the last time was in 1989. I don’t think that’s particularly relevant but 1977 is the answer. ND just beat Penn State there if that counts for anything. It’s a small stadium so I don’t see the crowd being a huge factor.
The game in 2017 is one of the loudest I've ever heard on my TV and had a friend there who said it was insane for that game.
 
ND only played Miami @ Miami in 2017. Before that, the last time was in 1989. I don’t think that’s particularly relevant but 1977 is the answer. ND just beat Penn State there if that counts for anything. It’s a small stadium so I don’t see the crowd being a huge factor.
Miami has arguably the worst and most apathetic fan base in all of major CFB. The surrounding community could not care less about that team.
 
When is the last time we have won at Miami? Miami has won big down there since the 1980s. We have 4 tough games in the first half of the year. It's a new season.
Our record in Florida against Florida teams is dismal, but I don't think oddsmakers care about that.
 
Miami has arguably the worst and most apathetic fan base in all of major CFB. The surrounding community could not care less about that team.
I am sure this game will be sold out but I went to the opening game two years ago vs Miami of Ohio I believe and it was maybe 2/3 full for opening weekend. They tried to make it fun....a Miami vibe but except for maybe a couple of games a year the empty seats really not what I would want to pay in front of.
 
When is the last time we have won at Miami? Miami has won big down there since the 1980s. We have 4 tough games in the first half of the year. It's a new season.
We never thought ND would win a major bowl, let alone 2 in one season. After last season, I'm resetting my expectations on what can/can't happen.
 
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Miami has arguably the worst and most apathetic fan base in all of major CFB. The surrounding community could not care less about that team.
True. But early in the year before they have a loss, Cane fans will pack the house for ND. It should be a raucous atmosphere.
 
When is the last time we have won at Miami? Miami has won big down there since the 1980s. We have 4 tough games in the first half of the year. It's a new season.
Hyperbole much? We have played in Miami once in the last 35+ years and yes we lost
 
We never thought ND would win a major bowl, let alone 2 in one season. After last season, I'm resetting my expectations on what can/can't happen.
They didn't any win bowl games, let alone two. They won three playoff games, there are no bowls, unless you're talking about the pinstripe bowl or some shit like that. Or the 'Belk' Bowl.

There are lines you can't cross, when you starting talking, just absurd bullshit, which of course we know people like to do. And you're crossing it, when you try to claim we won not one, but two bowl games in the same postseason. Which of course is prima facie absurd right off the bat. You don't win two bowl games in the same effin' year. That's how you know, among other reasons, that they weren't bowl games.
 
I am sure this game will be sold out but I went to the opening game two years ago vs Miami of Ohio I believe and it was maybe 2/3 full for opening weekend. They tried to make it fun....a Miami vibe but except for maybe a couple of games a year the empty seats really not what I would want to pay in front of.
Miami now plays in 'Hard Rock Stadium' 20 miles away from campus. It advertises itself as

The stadium currently features a myriad of luxuries including four hi-definition video boards and LED ribbon boards in the world. Further, it is equipped with more than 2,000 flat-screen TV monitors including several 103-inch plasma displays spanning the stadium ensuring you won’t miss any of the action. Hard Rock Stadium also offers some luxurious seating options. The facility’s 240 modern suites offer an unmatched mix of comfort and service.

Hard Rock Stadium recently received the Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design (LEED) Gold v4.1 O+M certification for the overall sustainability of both Hard Rock Stadium and the Miami International Autodrome Paddock Club building. https://miamihurricanes.com/facilities/hard-rock-stadium/

The old Orange bowl, nope.
 
They didn't any win bowl games, let alone two. They won three playoff games, there are no bowls, unless you're talking about the pinstripe bowl or some shit like that. Or the 'Belk' Bowl.

There are lines you can't cross, when you starting talking, just absurd bullshit, which of course we know people like to do. And you're crossing it, when you try to claim we won not one, but two bowl games in the same postseason. Which of course is prima facie absurd right off the bat. You don't win two bowl games in the same effin' year. That's how you know, among other reasons, that they weren't bowl games.
I believe they received the bowl game trophies for those two wins no ? The CFP format DID incorporate the " major" bowl games in the bracket. Whether you personally consider them bowl game wins is not relevant. I believe the official record books indicate they certainly were.
 
I believe they received the bowl game trophies for those two wins no ? The CFP format DID incorporate the " major" bowl games in the bracket. Whether you personally consider them bowl game wins is not relevant. I believe the official record books indicate they certainly were.
Yeah, that's just marketing. Those were playoff games. They could have played them anywhere, but for sentimental reasons, or marketing reasons or whatever, they played them at the Rose bowl, meaning the Rose bowl stadium, or the Sugar Bowl, in New Orleans, in the Superdome. And they even went as far as handing out a trophy, as if they just won the Orange Bowl, and the Sugar Bowl. But it wasn't really the Sugar Bowl. Like when ND lost to LSU with Jamarcus Russell, or when we beat Alabama, back in the 70s, that famous game. That was the Sugar Bowl, the actual Sugar Bowl. Just because those pillars of institutional integrity, the CFB establishment, decided to treat the various 2nd and 3rd round playoff games as, and simply declare them to be bowl games, on paper, for fun and the pomp and circumstance and hoopla and all that, didn't actually make them bowl games.

I mean that's water into wine shit, sir. You really want to go down that road? You seem to fancy yourself a reasonable man, so why would you ever want to talk like this? You think that's the smart play, to go along with the charade, because, again, for marketing purposes we'll just call it, these playoff games, for now at least, are sort of being called bowl games, even though they're obviously not at all, in the most self-evident way humanly possible? They indeed are what replaced the big bowl games in this momentous paradigm shift in the sport, and what all the fussing and fighting and fretting has been about all these years.
 
Yeah, that's just marketing. Those were playoff games. They could have played them anywhere, but for sentimental reasons, or marketing reasons or whatever, they played them at the Rose bowl, meaning the Rose bowl stadium, or the Sugar Bowl, in New Orleans, in the Superdome. And they even went as far as handing out a trophy, as if they just won the Orange Bowl, and the Sugar Bowl. But it wasn't really the Sugar Bowl. Like when ND lost to LSU with Jamarcus Russell, or when we beat Alabama, back in the 70s, that famous game. That was the Sugar Bowl, the actual Sugar Bowl. Just because those pillars of institutional integrity, the CFB establishment, decided to treat the various 2nd and 3rd round playoff games as, and simply declare them to be bowl games, on paper, for fun and the pomp and circumstance and hoopla and all that, didn't actually make them bowl games.

I mean that's water into wine shit, sir. You really want to go down that road? You seem to fancy yourself a reasonable man, so why would you ever want to talk like this? You think that's the smart play, to go along with the charade, because, again, for marketing purposes we'll just call it, these playoff games, for now at least, are sort of being called bowl games, even though they're obviously not at all, in the most self-evident way humanly possible? They indeed are what replaced the big bowl games in this momentous paradigm shift in the sport, and what all the fussing and fighting and fretting has been about all these years.
As I posted previously your personal opinion is not relevant. They have been officially designated as Bowl game victories. Not my decision nor yours. It's a personal choice as to whether an individual chooses to see it that way or not. Seems to be a silly issue to debate in the first place.
 
As I posted previously your personal opinion is not relevant. They have been officially designated as Bowl game victories. Not my decision nor yours. It's a personal choice as to whether an individual chooses to see it that way or not. Seems to be a silly issue to debate in the first place.
Okay, so you are going to play along. And my opinion isn't relevant. My personal opinion is irrelevant, which is mine alone. And it's only an 'opinion'. It's not factual, it's' not self-evident, it's just an opinion.

And essentially you're admitting to it, which I suppose is vaguely admirable. You don't make the rules, the only thing that matters in life is who does, and whatever they say one has go along with, done and done. There's just no other way. And thus here we are, with ND fans, and tOSU fans as well if they're so inclined, taking credit for two separate NY6 bowl victories and the trophies in their trophy case, as patently batshit as that is, along with two playoff victories, which are also a matter of record, in the same effin' season, all with a straight face.

Well I think it's super effed up and it takes CFB fandom into a weird, unwholesome place, by asking fans, who are already way too invested in the comparative prestige and prowess of the team they support, to enter into a realm of fantasy, or polite fiction if you prefer, for no good, justifiable reason that I can discern. And you're happy to oblige. The human brain is incapable of not understanding that 2+2=4. That's why we have brains, so we can understand things like that, that's why they evolved. No one anywhere ever actually believes that 2+2=5, because it's impossible, the brain wouldn't even know how to process something like that. And this is at that level of absurdity. As silly as it is.
 
They didn't any win bowl games, let alone two. They won three playoff games, there are no bowls, unless you're talking about the pinstripe bowl or some shit like that. Or the 'Belk' Bowl.

There are lines you can't cross, when you starting talking, just absurd bullshit, which of course we know people like to do. And you're crossing it, when you try to claim we won not one, but two bowl games in the same postseason. Which of course is prima facie absurd right off the bat. You don't win two bowl games in the same effin' year. That's how you know, among other reasons, that they weren't bowl games.
"They didn't any win bowl games, let alone two"



Seems like, besides it being playoff game, they won 2 bowl games as well -- and that is how they are viewed (maybe not by you, but everyone else) semantics, maybe --
 
"They didn't any win bowl games, let alone two"



Seems like, besides it being playoff game, they won 2 bowl games as well -- and that is how they are viewed (maybe not by you, but everyone else) semantics, maybe --
I would put it this way, if this somehow became a matter for the courts, for our justice system, and that sort of standard, I suppose, between that which is reasonable and possesses a sort of legal or argumentative sanity and viability if you will, and that which is absurd, it would not withstand that process.

That this playoff format, which is a very standard playoff format, is somehow also, as if by magic or royal or otherwise arbitrary decree, the Rose Bowl, and the Orange Bowl, and all the rest of the NY6 bowls. Not in the first round of course, or in the final. But only in the 2nd and 3rd rounds, where it actually dovetails quite nicely, when the cities and stadiums where those bowl games are otherwise played, or rather were played, will be used as not merely suitable enough physical venues for those 2nd and 3rd round games, but they will retain all of their official status and pageantry shall we say, and they will live on in this new manifestation, and not unimportantly, so it isn't just some wink wink thing, it's all there in black and white, very tangible, with trophies and statistical inclusion in the foregoing, and indeed ongoing record books. And so now teams, in addition to winning the national title, or at least getting into the final game, will perforce pile up two NY6 bowl victories as well, like ND did. Even though the only similarity this new iteration shares with the actual NY6 bowls, is that they're both football games, otherwise they are downright antithetical to each other. The sole purpose of the 2nd and 3rd rounds of the playoff, as with the opening round or any round, is to fill their necessary and integral role in advancing two teams all the way to the final. Which of course the Orange Bowl never did. Quite obviously. It was a stand alone bowl game. It was what the playoff replaced. Very deliberately, so as to rid the championship process of their very existence, as antiquated and grossly insufficient and inappropriate and not fit for purpose.

And thus such an arrangement would definitely fall into the realm of a 'legal fiction', let's say, as far as any conceptual validity or whatnot. Because it's simply the 2nd and 3rd rounds of the 12 team playoff. And the inclusion of the NY6 bowl angle is merely wild embellishment, if you like. A bizarre, brazenly nonsensical, nostalgic self-indulgence to continue to treat these games, that were expressly created to replace the bowls, as a robust or innovative continuation of the bowls, and they haven't really missed a beat. And the upshot to fan bragging rights with respect to getting into the final, into the championship game but not winning it, the position ND finds itself in, which of course would necessarily require victories in the 2nd and 3rd rounds, is that in addition to reaching the final, they also just achieved not one, but indeed two NY6 bowl victories, which can be celebrated and gloated over in their own right, as if those victories carried the same import and prestige and significance like they were still the old bowl games of yore. So we didn't win the championship, which sucks, but we did win the Orange Bowl AND the Sugar Bowl - both! - so that's pretty cool.

You'd think the, just the effin' insult, the insult to one's dignity and intelligence, of claiming two bowl victories in the same postseason, would instinctively give one pause. Hell no. They probably market tested it before unleashing this madness onto the public. On account of how ridiculous the whole thing would be, and it might not go over that well, it's just too stupid. Not the case, turns out fans will happily swallow that. Unblinkingly. And then defend the legitimacy with whatever feeble arguments can be mustered, which in this case are just an immediate 'appeal to authority'. Hey man, that's what the NCAA decided, or whoever, the BCS or the committee, or whatever august organization applies. The shit is legit. 2+2=5, bitch!
 
The semantics the same ~10 people endlessly go back and forth with each other on to accomplish nothing is just.....wild.
 
I would put it this way, if this somehow became a matter for the courts, for our justice system, and that sort of standard, I suppose, between that which is reasonable and possesses a sort of legal or argumentative sanity and viability if you will, and that which is absurd, it would not withstand that process.

That this playoff format, which is a very standard playoff format, is somehow also, as if by magic or royal or otherwise arbitrary decree, the Rose Bowl, and the Orange Bowl, and all the rest of the NY6 bowls. Not in the first round of course, or in the final. But only in the 2nd and 3rd rounds, where it actually dovetails quite nicely, when the cities and stadiums where those bowl games are otherwise played, or rather were played, will be used as not merely suitable enough physical venues for those 2nd and 3rd round games, but they will retain all of their official status and pageantry shall we say, and they will live on in this new manifestation, and not unimportantly, so it isn't just some wink wink thing, it's all there in black and white, very tangible, with trophies and statistical inclusion in the foregoing, and indeed ongoing record books. And so now teams, in addition to winning the national title, or at least getting into the final game, will perforce pile up two NY6 bowl victories as well, like ND did. Even though the only similarity this new iteration shares with the actual NY6 bowls, is that they're both football games, otherwise they are downright antithetical to each other. The sole purpose of the 2nd and 3rd rounds of the playoff, as with the opening round or any round, is to fill their necessary and integral role in advancing two teams all the way to the final. Which of course the Orange Bowl never did. Quite obviously. It was a stand alone bowl game. It was what the playoff replaced. Very deliberately, so as to rid the championship process of their very existence, as antiquated and grossly insufficient and inappropriate and not fit for purpose.

And thus such an arrangement would definitely fall into the realm of a 'legal fiction', let's say, as far as any conceptual validity or whatnot. Because it's simply the 2nd and 3rd rounds of the 12 team playoff. And the inclusion of the NY6 bowl angle is merely wild embellishment, if you like. A bizarre, brazenly nonsensical, nostalgic self-indulgence to continue to treat these games, that were expressly created to replace the bowls, as a robust or innovative continuation of the bowls, and they haven't really missed a beat. And the upshot to fan bragging rights with respect to getting into the final, into the championship game but not winning it, the position ND finds itself in, which of course would necessarily require victories in the 2nd and 3rd rounds, is that in addition to reaching the final, they also just achieved not one, but indeed two NY6 bowl victories, which can be celebrated and gloated over in their own right, as if those victories carried the same import and prestige and significance like they were still the old bowl games of yore. So we didn't win the championship, which sucks, but we did win the Orange Bowl AND the Sugar Bowl - both! - so that's pretty cool.

You'd think the, just the effin' insult, the insult to one's dignity and intelligence, of claiming two bowl victories in the same postseason, would instinctively give one pause. Hell no. They probably market tested it before unleashing this madness onto the public. On account of how ridiculous the whole thing would be, and it might not go over that well, it's just too stupid. Not the case, turns out fans will happily swallow that. Unblinkingly. And then defend the legitimacy with whatever feeble arguments can be mustered, which in this case are just an immediate 'appeal to authority'. Hey man, that's what the NCAA decided, or whoever, the BCS or the committee, or whatever august organization applies. The shit is legit. 2+2=5, bitch!
Blah,blah,blah, blah, blah.....incessant drivel. The trophy case displays the facts.
 
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Blah,blah,blah, blah, blah.....incessant drivel. The trophy case displays the facts.
Yeah, that's a good comeback. So I think a 'touche'' is in order. In any case, it would appear none of that means anything to you. I just wonder where would the line be drawn for someone like you. I guess you'd just have to make that calculation when you come to it. I suppose it was a big moment for you coming to grips with players getting paid, even more so when that became your job apparently. And that's where the line rests currently.

Anyway, now you know. It's bullshit. And it probably won't last anyway. If we have two full blown super conferences, or some similar arrangement, which seems inevitable, this last vestige, or pretense will finally go as well. And then it will be safe to make the adjustment for fans like yourself.
 
The semantics the same ~10 people endlessly go back and forth with each other on to accomplish nothing is just.....wild.
I can't make out what you meant to say, speaking of semantics, that was pretty unintelligible. But you're obviously referring to me, I was the only guy going off, with one of my patented polemics. But if there's anyone on earth who I'm sure knows better, and prides himself on being contemptuously above the typical meathead mentality, but also loves to wallow in anything that aggrandizes his team, it's you.
 
The problem is determining what exactly is a major bowl. The Cotton used to be, then it wasn't, and now it is again. The Fiesta wasn't one, but now it is. The Gator was also upgraded to "major" bowl status recently. The Rose, Sugar and Orange have always been major.
 
The problem is determining what exactly is a major bowl. The Cotton used to be, then it wasn't, and now it is again. The Fiesta wasn't one, but now it is. The Gator was also upgraded to "major" bowl status recently. The Rose, Sugar and Orange have always been major.
Is that what the problem is? We just need to settle on which bowls are the actual NY6 bowls, once and for all. That's the controversy. Certainly not this stupidity where erstwhile bowl games are counted as actual playoff games and they're one and the same. That's what's not controversial. Of course bowl games are playoff games, and playoff games are bowl games, and quite naturally you get a effin' trophy, when you win a 2nd round game in the 12 team playoff, and you just became the gator bowl effin' champion. And then it's off to the Outback bowl, where another trophy awaits with the winner. As well as a lifetime supply of baby back ribs. And whatever, those effin' onion rings. Not to mention a spot in the coveted title game as well, let's not forget that.

Though I do wonder since tOSU won the whole thing, and are national champs, do they feel the need to also claim Cotton Bowl and Rose Bowl victories, I believe it was, and does that make even the slightest effin' sense at all? Give ND fans a pass, they can't help themselves. But for the actual winner, they're not going to engage in that kind of asinine absurdity, right? That would cheapen it somehow I think. In the playoff, at best, however effin' nuts it is, 'bowl victories' would be consolation prizes to hang your hat on. You definitely wouldn't draw attention to something like that if you actually won the whole playoff. Through you could still get all teary-eyed about another Rose Bowl victory and trophy for the trophy case if you were an especially sentimental tOSU fan. You could even make t-shirts that said '2025 Rose Bowl Champs'. And don't even mention the national championship. Especially if you hated the idea of the playoff to begin with. And there presumably are such shirts. That's some good marketing!

So thank you for you clearing that up. Because that's the real problem. Just what are the NY6 bowl games? So we're not out of the woods yet. Unless we figure that one out, the whole thing could still come crumbling down.
 
Is that what the problem is? We just need to settle on which bowls are the actual NY6 bowls, once and for all. That's the controversy. Certainly not this stupidity where erstwhile bowl games are counted as actual playoff games and they're one and the same. That's what's not controversial. Of course bowl games are playoff games, and playoff games are bowl games, and quite naturally you get a effin' trophy, when you win a 2nd round game in the 12 team playoff, and you just became the gator bowl effin' champion. And then it's off to the Outback bowl, where another trophy awaits with the winner. As well as a lifetime supply of baby back ribs. And whatever, those effin' onion rings. Not to mention a spot in the coveted title game as well, let's not forget that.

Though I do wonder since tOSU won the whole thing, and are national champs, do they feel the need to also claim Cotton Bowl and Rose Bowl victories, I believe it was, and does that make even the slightest effin' sense at all? Give ND fans a pass, they can't help themselves. But for the actual winner, they're not going to engage in that kind of asinine absurdity, right? That would cheapen it somehow I think. In the playoff, at best, however effin' nuts it is, 'bowl victories' would be consolation prizes to hang your hat on. You definitely wouldn't draw attention to something like that if you actually won the whole playoff. Through you could still get all teary-eyed about another Rose Bowl victory and trophy for the trophy case if you were an especially sentimental tOSU fan. You could even make t-shirts that said '2025 Rose Bowl Champs'. And don't even mention the national championship. Especially if you hated the idea of the playoff to begin with. And there presumably are such shirts. That's some good marketing!

So thank you for you clearing that up. Because that's the real problem. Just what are the NY6 bowl games? So we're not out of the woods yet. Unless we figure that one out, the whole thing could still come crumbling down.
You're really ON FIRE with this one. Tremendously entertaining set of posts from your usual OBLIQUE YET -- AT THE SAME TIME -- STRAIGHT AHEAD ANGLE. Walking the line between TRUTH and SATIRE -- which is how your posts strike me -- makes for some very good COMEDY. I'm still laughing over a "LIFETIME SUPPLY OF BABY BACK RIBS." How LUDICROUS and yet how TRUE.

If this isn't your DAY JOB, it should be. You could host a YOUTUBE CHANNEL where you DECONSTRUCT "established" podcasters like Driskell, Goolsby and John Kennedy. Even people at the level of Joel Klatt. I can only imagine the MATERIAL they would feed you. Get a following. Get advertisers. And maybe even flog OSU 2025 Rose Bowl Champs T-shirts. Friggin' COLLECTORS ITEMS.

Get in on the FLAGRANT MERCANTILE FREE FOR ALL that CFB has become. Why not? The odor of money is EVERYWHERE.
 
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The problem is determining what exactly is a major bowl. The Cotton used to be, then it wasn't, and now it is again. The Fiesta wasn't one, but now it is. The Gator was also upgraded to "major" bowl status recently. The Rose, Sugar and Orange have always been major.
Questions are: Does the bowl get a conference champion? Does/did it get the independent that it wanted?
 
Questions are: Does the bowl get a conference champion? Does/did it get the independent that it wanted?

I suppose it depends on whether a specific independent has a deal with a particular bowl. Bowls sign contracts with both conferences and independents.
 
I suppose it depends on whether a specific independent has a deal with a particular bowl. Bowls sign contracts with both conferences and independents.
I think the Idaho Potato bowl had a deal with their state universities. I doubt Boise St was pleased if that activated.

The Fiesta was the success story. Somehow they became a major bowl without a conference tie in, hosting #1 Miami vs #2 Penn St after the 1986 season.
 
You're really ON FIRE with this one. Tremendously entertaining set of posts from your usual OBLIQUE YET -- AT THE SAME TIME -- STRAIGHT AHEAD ANGLE. Walking the line between TRUTH and SATIRE -- which is how your posts strike me -- makes for some very good COMEDY. I'm still laughing over a "LIFETIME SUPPLY OF BABY BACK RIBS." How LUDICROUS and yet how TRUE.

If this isn't your DAY JOB, it should be. You could host a YOUTUBE CHANNEL where you DECONSTRUCT "established" podcasters like Driskell, Goolsby and John Kennedy. Even people at the level of Joel Klatt. I can only imagine the MATERIAL they would feed you. Get a following. Get advertisers. And maybe even flog OSU 2025 Rose Bowl Champs T-shirts. Friggin' COLLECTORS ITEMS.

Get in on the FLAGRANT MERCANTILE FREE FOR ALL that CFB has become. Why not? The odor of money is EVERYWHERE.
Yeah, well, I just want the playoff done right. That's my hobbyhorse. I truly do hate the bowls. That's actually not even true, I don't have anything against the bowls at all. And some of the best CFB games of the season happen at some random 3rd or 4th tier bowl you never heard of that goes into 4 OTs, and even though both the teams only have like, .500 records, it's the stuff of an 'instant classic'.

But not at the expense of a righteous, proper playoff. But some people just cannot let go of these bastions of 'tradition'. And they hold on too tight. But really it's gotta be just marketing and 'business'. And it's totally cynical, and the people responsible for this travesty, this silliness, are probably less sentimental about the bowls than I am. Just part of the extravaganza! And it's the Blooming Onion I believe, that Outback is famous for. Baby back ribs are from like, Chili's or something.
 
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Yeah, well, I just want the playoff done right. That's my hobbyhorse. I truly do hate the bowls. That's actually not even true, I don't have anything against the bowls at all. And some of the best CFB games of the season happen at some random 3rd or 4th tier bowl you never heard of that goes into 4 OTs, and even though both the teams only have like, .500 records, it's the stuff of an 'instant classic'.

But not at the expense of a righteous, proper playoff. But some people just cannot let go of these bastions of 'tradition'. And they hold on too tight. But really it's gotta be just marketing and 'business'. And it's totally cynical, and the people responsible for this travesty, this silliness, are probably less sentimental about the bowls than I am. Just part of the extravaganza! And it's the Blooming Onion I believe, that Outback is famous for. Baby back ribs are from like, Chili's or something.
Only thing bowls are good for is taking a dump…hopefully they’re porcelain!
 
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The game in 2017 is one of the loudest I've ever heard on my TV and had a friend there who said it was insane for that game.
That 2017 game is a sore spot for me n for TelX
I attended. TelX had to listen to me whine about how Wimbush sucked for years. Book came in and threw an int. But looked the part. Book was the starter soon after. We started the season strong and that game sent us in the wrong direction

Fans were loud around me. It was a terrible showing for big game Kelly. We had nothing. Came out flat. A good qb and we win that going away
 
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I believe they received the bowl game trophies for those two wins no ? The CFP format DID incorporate the " major" bowl games in the bracket. Whether you personally consider them bowl game wins is not relevant. I believe the official record books indicate they certainly were.
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