Navy’s Offense

[edub72]

I assume no more option from Navy and no more cut blocks with Ken N gone?

 

[IrishHerb]

Read in the WaPo that Navy is not abandoning the option. No idea what to expect.

 

[BGI User 1596]

I assume no more option from Navy and no more cut blocks with Ken N gone?

Expect even more dynamic option attack.

 

[buckey]

More option with more passing

 

[buckey]

Actually could be a difficult game

 

[4-4-3]

Actually could be a difficult game

It's always difficult to say with Navy.

Davie had two squeakers, two blowouts and one two-score type win.

Willingham had two squeakers and one two-score win.

Weis LOST TWICE, had two blowouts and one squeaker win.

Kelly LOST TWICE, had FIVE BLOWOUTS, two squeakers and two two-score-type wins.

That's a total of 9 BLOWOUTS, 4 TWO-SCORE WINS and 7 SQUEAKERS.

More than HALF of the games won by ND have been COMPETITIVE. Three of ND's four losses have also been competitive. In fact, they were SQUEAKERS.

So, in total, over a period of 24 years -- PRIOR TO FREEMAN -- 14 of the games have been competitive which is slightly less than 60%.

Last year's game had elements of BOTH an ND blowout and a POTENTIAL LOSS. It was LITERALLY a tale of TWO-HALVES.

From all of this, it's not at all a stretch to suggest that a FREEMAN COACHED ND team could, as you put it, find this "A DIFFICULT GAME."

Or it could be one of those ND BLOWOUTS.

The prior two Dublin games ended in blowouts: 54-27 in 96 and 50-10 in 12.

For my money, there's simply NO WAY to know how this will turn out.

 

[deadirishpoet]

I assume no more option from Navy and no more cut blocks with Ken N gone?

The option is their best chance for success with the limitation they have

 

[sjb75]

Actually could be a difficult game

It's far more difficult for Navy.

 

[deadirishpoet]

It's always difficult to say with Navy.

Davie had two squeakers, two blowouts and one two-score type win.

Willingham had two squeakers and one two-score win.

Weis LOST TWICE, had two blowouts and one squeaker win.

Kelly LOST TWICE, had FIVE BLOWOUTS, two squeakers and two two-score-type wins.

That's a total of 9 BLOWOUTS, 4 TWO-SCORE WINS and 7 SQUEAKERS.

More than HALF of the games won by ND have been COMPETITIVE. Three of ND's four losses have also been competitive. In fact, they were SQUEAKERS.

So, in total, over a period of 24 years -- PRIOR TO FREEMAN -- 14 of the games have been competitive which is slightly less than 60%.

Last year's game had elements of BOTH an ND blowout and a POTENTIAL LOSS. It was LITERALLY a tale of TWO-HALVES.

From all of this, it's not at all a stretch to suggest that a FREEMAN COACHED ND team could, as you put it, find this "A DIFFICULT GAME."

Or it could be one of those ND BLOWOUTS.

The prior two Dublin games ended in blowouts: 54-27 in 96 and 50-10 in 12.

For my money, there's simply NO WAY to know how this will turn out.

Good post though I thought Weis lost once to Navy

 

[baron100]

It's always difficult to say with Navy.

Davie had two squeakers, two blowouts and one two-score type win.

Willingham had two squeakers and one two-score win.

Weis LOST TWICE, had two blowouts and one squeaker win.

Kelly LOST TWICE, had FIVE BLOWOUTS, two squeakers and two two-score-type wins.

That's a total of 9 BLOWOUTS, 4 TWO-SCORE WINS and 7 SQUEAKERS.

More than HALF of the games won by ND have been COMPETITIVE. Three of ND's four losses have also been competitive. In fact, they were SQUEAKERS.

So, in total, over a period of 24 years -- PRIOR TO FREEMAN -- 14 of the games have been competitive which is slightly less than 60%.

Last year's game had elements of BOTH an ND blowout and a POTENTIAL LOSS. It was LITERALLY a tale of TWO-HALVES.

From all of this, it's not at all a stretch to suggest that a FREEMAN COACHED ND team could, as you put it, find this "A DIFFICULT GAME."

Or it could be one of those ND BLOWOUTS.

The prior two Dublin games ended in blowouts: 54-27 in 96 and 50-10 in 12.

For my money, there's simply NO WAY to know how this will turn out.

I was at the 96 game with a couple ex players who I worked with and it was a lot of fun. For anyone that’s going this year extend your stay and see the country

 

[IrishHerb]

Good post though I thought Weis lost once to Navy

No, twice. Both times at Notre Dame.

 

[HDK]

Good post though I thought Weis lost once to Navy

'07 and '09. Not sure which was worse, '07 when we lost in triple OT when our running back got stuffed at the goal line or '09 when we gave up a late safety after rallying from a two TD deficit to tie the score in the fourth quarter.

 

[4-4-3]

Good post though I thought Weis lost once to Navy

No, he lost in 07 AND in 09. In my opinion, it's the SECOND NAVY LOSS that sealed him GETTING THE BOOT.

 

[FightingIrish44]

'07 and '09. Not sure which was worse, '07 when we lost in triple OT when our running back got stuffed at the goal line or '09 when we gave up a late safety after rallying from a two TD deficit to tie the score in the fourth quarter.

2009 was worse, IMO. 2007 was a historically bad team. It made sense that Navy would finally get a win that year, and it still took 3 OT’s to win the game.

 

[4-4-3]

I was at the 96 game with a couple ex players who I worked with and it was a lot of fun. For anyone that’s going this year extend your stay and see the country

Yes, Ireland is great. I've both visited "ROOTS" and done business there.

It's uniqueness is UNIQUE.

 

[deadirishpoet]

No, twice. Both times at Notre Dame.

Thanks brother

 

[deadirishpoet]

Thanks guys for the clarification

 

[tbonesays]

'07 and '09. Not sure which was worse, '07 when we lost in triple OT when our running back got stuffed at the goal line or '09 when we gave up a late safety after rallying from a two TD deficit to tie the score in the fourth quarter.

09 will always be worse. We lost to many teams where no one on their roster would start at ND.

 

[NDblitz]

It's always difficult to say with Navy.

Davie had two squeakers, two blowouts and one two-score type win.

Willingham had two squeakers and one two-score win.

Weis LOST TWICE, had two blowouts and one squeaker win.

Kelly LOST TWICE, had FIVE BLOWOUTS, two squeakers and two two-score-type wins.

That's a total of 9 BLOWOUTS, 4 TWO-SCORE WINS and 7 SQUEAKERS.

More than HALF of the games won by ND have been COMPETITIVE. Three of ND's four losses have also been competitive. In fact, they were SQUEAKERS.

So, in total, over a period of 24 years -- PRIOR TO FREEMAN -- 14 of the games have been competitive which is slightly less than 60%.

Last year's game had elements of BOTH an ND blowout and a POTENTIAL LOSS. It was LITERALLY a tale of TWO-HALVES.

From all of this, it's not at all a stretch to suggest that a FREEMAN COACHED ND team could, as you put it, find this "A DIFFICULT GAME."

Or it could be one of those ND BLOWOUTS.

The prior two Dublin games ended in blowouts: 54-27 in 96 and 50-10 in 12.

For my money, there's simply NO WAY to know how this will turn out.

One thing I believe, in ND's favor is enthusiasm. Playing Navy in November is a lot tougher than August. I've said it before. This should be the game ND opens the season with yearly. It's game 1 so the players should be excited to play anyone in a different colored jersey. And it allows ample prep time and you don't have to completely abandon the style of football you played for 6-7 weeks to institute a whole new way of doing things. That being said. I think it will be a squeaker early. And ND could cover the spread but the 2 score type win sounds about right to me. 35-17 type game.

 

[tbonesays]

It's always difficult to say with Navy.

Davie had two squeakers, two blowouts and one two-score type win.

Willingham had two squeakers and one two-score win.

Weis LOST TWICE, had two blowouts and one squeaker win.

Kelly LOST TWICE, had FIVE BLOWOUTS, two squeakers and two two-score-type wins.

That's a total of 9 BLOWOUTS, 4 TWO-SCORE WINS and 7 SQUEAKERS.

More than HALF of the games won by ND have been COMPETITIVE. Three of ND's four losses have also been competitive. In fact, they were SQUEAKERS.

So, in total, over a period of 24 years -- PRIOR TO FREEMAN -- 14 of the games have been competitive which is slightly less than 60%.

Last year's game had elements of BOTH an ND blowout and a POTENTIAL LOSS. It was LITERALLY a tale of TWO-HALVES.

From all of this, it's not at all a stretch to suggest that a FREEMAN COACHED ND team could, as you put it, find this "A DIFFICULT GAME."

Or it could be one of those ND BLOWOUTS.

The prior two Dublin games ended in blowouts: 54-27 in 96 and 50-10 in 12.

For my money, there's simply NO WAY to know how this will turn out.

I wonder if last year's game would have counted as a squeaker if we had not blow out Navy in the first half and changed something in the 2nd. It seems odd that the offense was completely shout out in the 2nd, even for a Rees led unit.

 

[sjb75]

I wonder if last year's game would have counted as a squeaker if we had not blow out Navy in the first half and changed something in the 2nd. It seems odd that the offense was completely shout out in the 2nd, even for a Rees led unit.

Tommy Rees, at age 30, now makes 2-million per year as the Alabama OC. Quite the career rise.

 

[4-4-3]

I wonder if last year's game would have counted as a squeaker if we had not blow out Navy in the first half and changed something in the 2nd. It seems odd that the offense was completely shout out in the 2nd, even for a Rees led unit.

It wouldn' have been a squeaker if ND had continued to dominate the way it had in the first half. As for what happened SPECIFICALLY to trigger what was in effect a second half offensive (in both senses of the word) collapse, I have no idea.

One factor, of course, was that Navy NEVER GIVES UP and goes 100% on EVERY PLAY until the WHISTLE.

But ND has certainly lost close games like this after breezing along in the first half. Two immediately come to mind; the 91 Tennessee game; and Freeman's first game, the bowl affair against the Cowboys.

Sports are funny. Once you lose the momentum in a contest, and the other side gets going, the game's whole complexion can change.

And, of course, ND has won these kinds of games as well, the ND/Houston Cotton Bowl following the 78 season, being one example.