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This problem is deep and corrosive. The Board of Directors needs to step up and reign in this fiasco before it metastasizes so far it destroys a committed fan base. A real soul searching into the program, how it competes (if it even still can) and the values of the school need to be vetted. This has become a demoralizing mess. End it, now!
 
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Amen. Again. Thanks for the post. He should be fired because he's not a good enough football coach for a big time program. Period.
 
Students also wanted Devine fired. Their parents pay for the tuition so that gives them a voice. I do not believe the masses should decide who stays and who gets fired though.
 
The noise created by the fan base does matter, and if the BOT believes Kelly is hurting the fan base and the ND brand, and the major donors are making noise as well, then of course the masses should influence who is hired and who is fired.
 
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Toby Smart said:
Students also wanted Devine fired. Their parents pay for the tuition so that gives them a voice. I do not believe the masses should decide who stays and who gets fired though.
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I was student then and I thought the guy was great. Was he "eclectic"? Sure he was, but he'd dance football circles around our dunce.
 
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I don't believe you were ever a student at ND.
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You also believe that kelly is a wonderful coach. Your defense of him has been among the most entertaining things this board has seen.

Again, your handle is missing "not".
 
The paper is a good start. Now a huge student potest march calling for Kelly's firing ending in front of Jack's office might get some attention.
 
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You also believe that kelly is a wonderful coach. Your defense of him has been among the most entertaining things this board has seen.

Again, your handle is missing "not".
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I defy you to find one single comment where I defend BK, and most of all, a wonderful coach. You are not getting out of this one. Give the exact quotes. In fact, while you are at it, add the quotes over the last week where I said I don't trust BK with the 2017 team. Now, get busy doing your research. Supply the pro-BK quotes. And, I still don't believe you were ever a Notre Dame student.
 
Toby Smart said:
I defy you to find one single comment where I defend BK, and most of all, a wonderful coach. You are not getting out of this one. Give the exact quotes. In fact, while you are at it, add the quotes over the last week where I said I don't trust BK with the 2017 team. Now, get busy doing your research. Supply the pro-BK quotes. And, I still don't believe you were ever a Notre Dame student.
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Yeah, you jumped ship in the past week, perhaps, good for you.
 
You are a complete fraud. You never graduated from ND. You never were a student at ND. You might have been to a party on campus. The ladies from ND might have ran the other way when you approached them at this party on campus. Then again, you might never have been on campus before. I knew with 100% certainty that you wouldn't find any "wonderful" BK comments I made, ever. If you are going to continue with this anonymous message board fantasy, then at least have some facts behind your comments. And tread lightly, you most likely are on probation.
 
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You are a complete fraud. You never graduated from ND. You never were a student at ND. You might have been to a party on campus. The ladies from ND might have ran the other way when you approached them at this party on campus. Then again, you might never have been on campus before. I knew with 100% certainty that you wouldn't find any "wonderful" BK comments I made, ever. If you are going to continue with this anonymous message board fantasy, then at least have some facts behind your comments. And tread lightly, you most likely are on probation.
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Hahaha you would have loved our Toga party at SMC....legendary. Tread lightly from what? Are you threatening me? Wow, you are an emotional wreck. You defended Mr Wonderul to the hilt and now you appear to be jumping ship. Own it.....
PS. You don't know much about ND or football so you should probably sit a few discussions out.
 
My man, you are not getting off the hook that easy. Supply my positive "wonderful" comments about BK. You said it now you have to back it up. You can't wisecrack your way out of this one.
 
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My man, you are not getting off the hook that easy. Supply my positive "wonderful" comments about BK. You said it now you have to back it up. You can't wisecrack your way out of this one.
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Your hook? That's too funny. Your umbrage is priceless. You are unglued.
Would you care to continue your crusade against the "anti kelly" fans?
In addition to believing he is a wonderful coach. I believe you touted him as better than Harbaugh and a top 5 HC in CFB.

"I defy you to find one single comment where I defend BK, and most of all, a wonderful coach." You were recently chastising "anti-kelly fans" which makes you what?

You have been on a Quixote like crusade until you recently fell off your donkey. It's unattractive for you to be piling on now. You're late to the party. At least have the dignity to hide like FLIrish, Irishmike...Lol...

"You are a complete fraud. You never graduated from ND. You never were a student at ND."

Well, one of us was smart enough to get in and graduate. It wasn't you.....
 
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Your hook? That's too funny. Your umbrage is priceless. You are unglued.
Would you care to continue your crusade against the "anti kelly" fans?
In addition to believing he is a wonderful coach. I believe you touted him as better than Harbaugh and a top 5 HC in CFB.

"I defy you to find one single comment where I defend BK, and most of all, a wonderful coach." You were recently chastising "anti-kelly fans" which makes you what?

You have been on a Quixote like crusade until you recently fell off your donkey. It's unattractive for you to be piling on now. You're late to the party. At least have the dignity to hide like FLIrish, Irishmike...Lol...

"You are a complete fraud. You never graduated from ND. You never were a student at ND."

Well, one of us was smart enough to get in and graduate. It wasn't you.....
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His donkey has a higher IQ than him!
 
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OK, so let me get this straight. You claim to be a grown adult that graduated from Notre Dame, who spent all his time on an anonymous message board posting childish immature comments about the HC and then got himself banned, on his home Rivals site mind you, begged forgiveness for a few weeks, returns under probation, only to make comments about a fellow Irish fan that you couldn't back up,and when confronted, went straight to your default response which was insults. Yep, sure sounds about right.
 
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OK, so let me get this straight. You claim to be a grown adult that graduated from Notre Dame, who spent all his time on an anonymous message board posting childish immature comments about the HC and then got himself banned, on his home Rivals site mind you, begged forgiveness for a few weeks, returns under probation, only to make comments about a fellow Irish fan that you couldn't back up,and when confronted, went straight to your default response which was insults. Yep, sure sounds about right.
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Begged for forgiveness??? Probation? bwahahahaha
Listen up Sparky, I did nothing of the sort. Nor am I on probation. Keep lying though it is who you are.....which is why you adored kelly.... birds of a feather....
Your little personal campaign of jumping too kelly's defense from thread to thread was hysterical. You just don't know much about football or my Alma Mater. Please tell me again how wonderful kelly is and how he is a top five coach. Hysterical....
Understand this well, Notre Dame doesn't need spineless individuals support. You take the cake....
 
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Any news on student protest marches calling for Kelly's firing? The sooner the better.
 
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