Hes figured it out
The MF era is here!
All that no experience BS is over with
Game on
Enjoy
The MF era is here!
All that no experience BS is over with
Game on
Enjoy
MF HAS ARRIVED!
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That game just felt different. We were physically better.
Recruiting will continue to shine. The right attitude and swag is coming too. A lot to be encouraged about.
Let’s get to 9-3, and go to a NY6 Bowl
Recruiting will continue to shine. The right attitude and swag is coming too. A lot to be encouraged about.
Let’s get to 9-3, and go to a NY6 Bowl
I’m still really shocked about what happened versus Stanford and Marshall because this Notre Dame team is just physically better than most teams and when you’re physically better you shouldn’t lose to two teams you can dominate on both lines of scrimmage.
This game, the UNC game, the Syracuse game, the BYU game….just a lot of domination.
I’m very excited about the future.
This game, the UNC game, the Syracuse game, the BYU game….just a lot of domination.
I’m very excited about the future.
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Imagine if he wasn't stuck with BK's awful, awful, awful, awful QB room and TR? Tonight was great but, when he gets the last stench of anything to do w/BK gone and gets his guys in that's when it will hopefully look like a real NC team...something no BK team ever looked or felt like in 12 years! And IDGAF that he beat Alabama, it took him sneaking out in the middle of the night to a place that is lawless regarding how they win...all his win against Alabama proves is he was never a good enough coach at ND to do it!!
Without the awful QB play would we have committed to the run and found out how strong Estime actually is?
It's funny you say that, because this brings up a point I have about ND and modern day football. There was an article that came out years ago that pointed out that Kelly actually had a better record w/ a QB who was in his first year as a starter compared to QBs in his 2nd or 3rd year as starter. As a result, how did that influence offenses under Kelly? The offense was more disciplined. Ran the ball more, passed less, and took less unnecessary risks. I think we're seeing this similar pattern w/ Rees. Rees still called for quite a few pass plays more than I would have liked in the earlier half of this season. After several games, I think Freeman and Rees realized, ND is better off limiting what they ask of Pyne and putting the pressure more on the OL/TE and RBs and the run game. Offensive Coordinators today in both college and NFL seem so impatient and tend to neglect the run game.
Freeman clearly has evolved. Through one season with 3 games left to play. As down as I was about him, although always rooting for him and the Irish, I'm now more hopeful he will succeed...and fast.
I think 9-3 is realistic. As well as a bowl game.
Sports can be strange. I had no idea DP and the receivers were so limited. Or that ND could run a power game to make up for this to a good degree, even against a decent team like Clemson. I guess Freeman and Rees, who know more than me, needed this time to figure it out?
🤔
Anyways, I see this progress as getting ND to where CBK left it. Hoping the Marshall and Stanford games are seen as coaching change turbulence. Like Golson said, hopefully done and over with...so now the Irish pursue the heights again.
As usual, I'll offer that going beyond the established heights might be a bridge too far. To beat GA, the Irish need more depth. Obviously a QB, not just any QB, but a good one with good receivers. As well as the strong OL, running game, and defense we're now seeing.
Being elite comes down to talent in depth in every area of the game.
I think 9-3 is realistic. As well as a bowl game.
Sports can be strange. I had no idea DP and the receivers were so limited. Or that ND could run a power game to make up for this to a good degree, even against a decent team like Clemson. I guess Freeman and Rees, who know more than me, needed this time to figure it out?
🤔
Anyways, I see this progress as getting ND to where CBK left it. Hoping the Marshall and Stanford games are seen as coaching change turbulence. Like Golson said, hopefully done and over with...so now the Irish pursue the heights again.
As usual, I'll offer that going beyond the established heights might be a bridge too far. To beat GA, the Irish need more depth. Obviously a QB, not just any QB, but a good one with good receivers. As well as the strong OL, running game, and defense we're now seeing.
Being elite comes down to talent in depth in every area of the game.
This has to be the strangest season I’ve ever seen. To look completely lost during some of the games to boat racing the #4 team in the land.
Congrats to MF. He made Dabo’s and Mack Brown’s team look awful. He’s a big upgrade in recruiting, enthusiasm and energy.
I’m pumping the brakes on him. Big upside but I still think he’s learning. Oklahoma St, Marshall and Stanford were not good games.
He needs a really good OC. Not sure if Tommy is the guy. Tommy’s QB recruiting and development might be good enough for MF.
Exactly this…. We have two what should be easy dominant wins next two weeks … need to dominate early and build depth
let’s see if MF!
It was a great win for Marcus Freeman and a real boost for the program. But, the National Media, being upset about Clemson being ranked #4 in the debut of the CFP ranks was justified.
ND was the first real football team they have played outside the ACC all year and got dragged. They slipped by a Syracuse team that has lost 3 in a row. The only 2 other "big wins" were in OT at Wake Forest and NC State.
If this were tennis, ND got a break of serve last night, after having their own serve broken against Marshall & Stanford. It is now time to consolidate the break of serve, by whipping a bad Navy team and a terrible BC team. Head into USC with a full head of steam.
Also, the style of football ND is playing now, is the exact right style of football ND should be playing in 2022.
However, this style of football is NOT going to win a National Championship. HS kids, at the WR and QB position, the position everyone has the biggest gripes about, want to go somewhere where they are going to get ball thrown to them, and a place where they are going to throw the ball.
Passing for 90 yards, mostly to the Tight End, is not going to work long term. So, the challenge moving forward will be how do you maintain the hardnosed OL driven style of football, while simultaneously creating more balance and explosive plays in the passing game. To A. Attract skilled recruits B. WIn the National Championship
ND was the first real football team they have played outside the ACC all year and got dragged. They slipped by a Syracuse team that has lost 3 in a row. The only 2 other "big wins" were in OT at Wake Forest and NC State.
If this were tennis, ND got a break of serve last night, after having their own serve broken against Marshall & Stanford. It is now time to consolidate the break of serve, by whipping a bad Navy team and a terrible BC team. Head into USC with a full head of steam.
Also, the style of football ND is playing now, is the exact right style of football ND should be playing in 2022.
However, this style of football is NOT going to win a National Championship. HS kids, at the WR and QB position, the position everyone has the biggest gripes about, want to go somewhere where they are going to get ball thrown to them, and a place where they are going to throw the ball.
Passing for 90 yards, mostly to the Tight End, is not going to work long term. So, the challenge moving forward will be how do you maintain the hardnosed OL driven style of football, while simultaneously creating more balance and explosive plays in the passing game. To A. Attract skilled recruits B. WIn the National Championship
With any coaching change players need to buy in. Freeman brought in a lot of new faces as coaches. Players have to buy into what the new coaches are trying to accomplish. The OL appears to have taken a while to buy in to what HH was trying to do, but they look like they are 100% in.
was Clemson over rated? To an extent; but not as much as you claim. ND has in the recent past had plenty of talent at the skill position; enough to win it all. The talent gap is not as great as you want it to be.
I'm not making excuses, just throwing out a different perspective. I see the 2nd half of Ok St as a Mike Elston issue. I believe he was given full autonomy to coach that game and interview for the DC job. Could Freeman have interjected, sure, but I don't think he did - not in any powerful way during the game.
Marshall, let down game after OSU. It happens to alot of good teams. Same with Stanford, let down game after a bowl-game atmosphere/trip to Las Vegas. I give more credence to the 'let-down' because of MF inexperience. And we heard MF comment on staying focused and improving shortly after the win last night - I think he learned his lesson.
Freeman had this team leading Ohio State in the third qtr on the road, beat ranked teams Syracuse, BYU and Clemson. Gave UNC their only loss so far. I like it!
Speaking of tennis, how about Holger Rune? Dude's been making me a lot of money this week. I'm pulling for the big upset over Novak today at +310
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This was predictable <yawn>
Nice post, but I’m not sure I completely agree. Im one of the biggest homers and optimists here, but the Marshall and Stanford losses just aren’t acceptable. We can’t buy “let downs happen after big games”. If that’s the case, then chalk us up for 2-3 losses every year, because ND plays In a ton of big games. Our talent should’ve pounded those teams. It didn’t, and as a result, we lost a real shot at playoffs.
Those bad losses were lessons learned for a young coach. That shit can’t happen again.
LOL. He looks like my kid, dressed in a tie and blazer, but wearing his sneakers too.
Another poster described Brian Kelly as being "transactional," i.e., everything was just another business decision for him. He definitely wasn't the warm and fuzzy type, and I'd be really surprised if in 30 years, former players will be talking about him the way Ara's players talk about him.
But it seems like he learned some stuff during his decade-plus run — a run I wanted us to end after the 2016 season — as our head coach.
It will be interesting to chart his success over the next couple of years. Going for 2 in OT is a ballsy move, reminiscent of some of the crazy shit he pulled when he first got to ND. I wonder if he will develop into the old fashioned business-like approach Kelly that he was with us.
Quit downplaying this victory as though it was a win against some inferior opponent. MF and ND legitimately beat, no, DOMINATED a top 5 team.
BK in 12 years NEVER dominated a top 5 or top 10 team the way ND dominated Clemson last night. FACT!
Now go take your BK love fest to the LSU forum, ND has a more dynamic and better coach.
Big win! The Clemson isn’t good narrative is an expected story when ND wins. Nobody wants to give ND credit bc they lost to Marshall. Fact is Clemson was 8-0 and they’ll probably win out and win the ACC. Are they Trevor Lawrence Clemson? No, but they’re still a great football team and we didn’t just beat them. We demolished them. That’s the story that people need to remember. It wasn’t just a win. It was prison sex beat down.
It's funny you mention the Ok St. game. I had saved that on my DVR since last year, and yesterday I rewatched the second half before deleting it. In the fourth quarter, it definitely appears that Freeman is calling the defensive plays.
We will see in the off-season. MF got a great win, but that doesn't wash away the eggs the offense laid vs Stanford and Marshall
And yet, those who said Notre Dame could win last night said Clemson wasn't that good.
A lot easier to learn how to dominate the weak than show you can beat the top tier
Dominating the weak will come
We finally showed up emotionally for a big game. About time
I know you are upset that MF is about to take off with all the hate you spewed about him. Its going to be a rough ride
That is a strong and full point…so many implications.
Winning is easier when you can recruit the best talent.
Maybe when he isnt handcuffed with a backup QB that probably isnt good enough to be a backup at a major program.
It took him 7 games to figure things out.
Not bad at all for a first year coach
Yeah, it was a little confusing to see a fired up ND team. That carried over to all facets of the team's play, especially on tackling and, of course, the relentless rushing attack.
It was a great victory. A great step forward for a challenged Freeman now finding his stride.
Kudos to CBK too. I don’t understand why congratulating this former coach who did a lot for Notre Dame invokes personal hostility.
All good with me. It’s just a chat board.
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