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McCaffrey skips on the team

You have to be a complete idiot, some here surely are, not to see the rationale about bypassing a bowl game for the rest of your future. Jaylon Smith provided a great example of what can happen when not thinking ahead.
 
You have to be a complete idiot, some here surely are, not to see the rationale about bypassing a bowl game for the rest of your future. Jaylon Smith provided a great example of what can happen when not thinking ahead.
Well, then why even play your junior year? Maybe if you have a great freshman year stop then and just wait a couple of years for the draft?

BTW, no need to call people idiots for having a different opinion than your own.
 
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Well, then why even play your junior year? Maybe if you have a great freshman year stop then and just wait a couple of years for the draft?

BTW, no need to call people idiots for having a different opinion than your own.

They'd have to give up their scholarship if they did that. I doubt many will go that way. I think this trend will be limited mostly to non-championship bowl games.
 
Well, then why even play your junior year? Maybe if you have a great freshman year stop then and just wait a couple of years for the draft?

BTW, no need to call people idiots for having a different opinion than your own.

I think where you draw the line, or where I do, is when the season and team goals are no longer obtainable. If you sat out your junior year you would be hurting your teams goals. By Mcaffery sitting out the Sun bowl it is not only helping his future, but honestly it is helping the team in the long run by giving reps to another WR/RB that may be on the team next year.
 
Well, then why even play your junior year? Maybe if you have a great freshman year stop then and just wait a couple of years for the draft?

BTW, no need to call people idiots for having a different opinion than your own.

Please leave argus alone. He is only able to post when he breaks away from the attendants.
 
And the thing is, a player's school might actually be losing money on the bowl game.

IMO, the powers that be, whoever they are, and ESPN's demand for the number of bowl games required to provide early morning through late night programming content for multiple cable channels (Plus ABC) have made the bowl games meaningless.
Agree a bit, but the reality is that the CFP made a lot of bowls meaningless.
 
What age do you think they should be able to go pro?

18, if any team wants to risk a roster slot/draft pick on such a long shot. The problem is that the NFL and players' union have conspired to keep younger players from being considered (there would only be a handful). The fault is not with the college game but with the professional leagues that enact artificial age restrictions.
 
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18, if any team wants to risk a roster slot/draft pick on such a long shot. The problem is that the NFL and players' union have conspired to keep younger players from being considered (there would only be a handful). The fault is not with the college game but with the professional leagues that enact artificial age restrictions.
So you think an 18 year old can be mentally prepared for the nfl? Playing football is 1 aspect of it. The partying, women , money fame that they don't get in high school would be too great. In college they can at least prepare for. It's different running over linebackers in high school them going up against Luke Keuchley in the pros.
 
So you think an 18 year old can be mentally prepared for the nfl? Playing football is 1 aspect of it. The partying, women , money fame that they don't get in high school would be too great. In college they can at least prepare for. It's different running over linebackers in high school them going up against Luke Keuchley in the pros.

In my opinion it doesn't matter what we think if they are mentally strong enough to play in the pros.... they either do and succeed or fail.... that is their choice!

Anyone else think it is anti-capitalism to tell someone they can't make money... and they have to go use their skills for free for 3 years (I know it isn't exactly 100% free with the education they get)?

I especially think it is ludicrous in basketball where it has been proven in the past by several players that you can do more then make a roster, you can dominate right out of HS.
 
In my opinion it doesn't matter what we think if they are mentally strong enough to play in the pros.... they either do and succeed or fail.... that is their choice!

Anyone else think it is anti-capitalism to tell someone they can't make money... and they have to go use their skills for free for 3 years (I know it isn't exactly 100% free with the education they get)?

I especially think it is ludicrous in basketball where it has been proven in the past by several players that you can do more then make a roster, you can dominate right out of HS.

Baseball and ice hockey both have better systems. Top prospects have the choice of college or pro right out of high school. So they can opt for the draft and go play in the minor leagues for 3-4 years, or they can play college for 3-4 years instead. Many choose college, because they figure if their pro sports career doesn't work out, they'll have a college education to fall back on. But non-academically inclined players (or those from poorer backgrounds) can opt for the draft instead. But football and basketball have no minor league systems available, so their only choice is college (or going overseas for a year in basketball).
 
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So you think an 18 year old can be mentally prepared for the nfl? Playing football is 1 aspect of it. The partying, women , money fame that they don't get in high school would be too great. In college they can at least prepare for. It's different running over linebackers in high school them going up against Luke Keuchley in the pros.
Let's see at 18 you are old enough and mature enough to vote for the leader of the free world, your old enough and mature enough to go to war, but not to play in the NFL ... seriously, that's your argument?
 
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I have to agree with the arguement that If a kid has the opportunity to go to the NFL, he skips the bowl,
and goes for the opportunity and the NFL money.
Unfortunately, college sports are big money and while teams still represent their schools, the kids must also
consider the business side just as every coach, assistant coach, etc does.
If College players all had business managers, I don't think that a manager would recommend that a pro prospect risk injury and the the possible loss of a big money deal with the pros?
 
In my opinion it doesn't matter what we think if they are mentally strong enough to play in the pros.... they either do and succeed or fail.... that is their choice!

Anyone else think it is anti-capitalism to tell someone they can't make money... and they have to go use their skills for free for 3 years (I know it isn't exactly 100% free with the education they get)?

I especially think it is ludicrous in basketball where it has been proven in the past by several players that you can do more then make a roster, you can dominate right out of HS.
I agree with your argument that if you're good enough or the guys with $ think you are then you should have the ability to play no matter the age.

That being said, the NBA is an awful comparison.. The Kobe's, Lebron's, Garnett's would be non-existent. It's a different sport and I think a year or two serves even the most mature best players well (Fournette). The success rate of guys going straight to the NFL would be low, even in the NBA, a lot of guys don't pan out.
 
I agree with your argument that if you're good enough or the guys with $ think you are then you should have the ability to play no matter the age.

That being said, the NBA is an awful comparison.. The Kobe's, Lebron's, Garnett's would be non-existent. It's a different sport and I think a year or two serves even the most mature best players well (Fournette). The success rate of guys going straight to the NFL would be low, even in the NBA, a lot of guys don't pan out.

I agree it wouldn't work in the NFL like it did in the NBA (there was even a lot of HS kids that failed in the NBA I think)...... but the fact that they would fail, would give kids incentive to go to school......
 
I bet Jaylon wishes he would of instead of getting hurt and losing millions in a meaningless bowl game.

One way to look at it is that he is letting his team down... the other way is that why play in the Sun Bowl and risk your career for free..... especially when your school and the NCAA will be making money off of you.

CFB has turned into a huge business and this is just a smart business move.
Jaylon was different- he was a 1st 5 pick... RB are dime a dozen in NFL and not an overly valued position... this one I dont understand
 
So you think an 18 year old can be mentally prepared for the nfl? Playing football is 1 aspect of it. The partying, women , money fame that they don't get in high school would be too great. In college they can at least prepare for. It's different running over linebackers in high school them going up against Luke Keuchley in the pros.

We allow 18 year olds to gamble with their lives by joining the armed forces. The NFL is less dangerous than that.

Only 2 or 3 18 year olds per year are going to be good enough to make an NFL roster. It will be a gamble for any team that uses a draft pick on a player so young.
 
We allow 18 year olds to gamble with their lives by joining the armed forces. The NFL is less dangerous than that.

Only 2 or 3 18 year olds per year are going to be good enough to make an NFL roster. It will be a gamble for any team that uses a draft pick on a player so young.
Ok then why can't 18 year old drink or smoke cigarettes anymore? Just because they can doesn't mean that they should. Remember that dude Richie Incognito messed with in Miami and he cried and quit the team because he couldn't handle a locker room. That would happen more if you have boys play with grown men.
 
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