LOL@ Indiana's stats vs OSU & Michigan

[chaseball]

in the only 2 games they played vs a formidable opponent they did nothing
indiana has the 57th ranked talent in the country lol

this game vs indiana is going to be nothing more than a glorified dress rehearsal for the sugar bowl vs georgia

 

[THUNDERSTRUCK111]

I wouldn’t be too cocky. They have a very good QB with pinpoint accuracy and can be very slippery vs the blitz. Their wideouts are big and can make those 50 /50 catches.

We’ve seen these games where we send the house and the QB just seems to slip out and throw a dart for a big play.
NIU comes to mind.

 

[ndhuntington]

I see Indiana comparable to Louisville good team solid weapons good coach decent defense. I don't see a blowout but if Indiana does stop the run and Love is not healthy buckle up. ND 28 IU 17.

 

[tbonesays]

in the only 2 games they played vs a formidable opponent they did nothing
indiana has the 57th ranked talent in the country lol

this game vs indiana is going to be nothing more than a glorified dress rehearsal for the sugar bowl vs georgia

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Is that the national average for every game or just against UM/OSU?

 

[NDinNJ]

in the only 2 games they played vs a formidable opponent they did nothing
indiana has the 57th ranked talent in the country lol

this game vs indiana is going to be nothing more than a glorified dress rehearsal for the sugar bowl vs georgia

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This post just shows your immaturity and how clueless you are regarding sports in general.

Just because a couple of teams had some success against a team, doesn't translate to another team having the same success against that same team.

Alabama should have smoked Oklahoma, and Vanderbilt. Ohio State should have smoked Michigan, but we all saw how those game's turned out.

What you seem to forget with your drivel about stats is the games still need to be played. Stats go out the window when they set foot on the field, but you're too moronic to realize it.

 

[Extirpate 6951]

Indiana is lot better than NIU!

 

[NDinNJ]

Indiana is lot better than NIU!

So was every other team on the schedule except maybe Purdue

 

[Chitown11]

This post just shows your immaturity and how clueless you are regarding sports in general.

Just because a couple of teams had some success against a team, doesn't translate to another team having the same success against that same team.

Alabama should have smoked Oklahoma, and Vanderbilt. Ohio State should have smoked Michigan, but we all saw how those game's turned out.

What you seem to forget with your drivel about stats is the games still need to be played. Stats go out the window when they set foot on the field, but you're too moronic to realize it.

Chasemeballs lives in the fantasy land where F+ reigns supreme

 

[Golson5]

in the only 2 games they played vs a formidable opponent they did nothing
indiana has the 57th ranked talent in the country lol

this game vs indiana is going to be nothing more than a glorified dress rehearsal for the sugar bowl vs georgia

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F+ factors all of this and everything in and they told me Indiana was the 10th best team in the country

Is F+ wrong ??

 

[raulduke_007]

in the only 2 games they played vs a formidable opponent they did nothing
indiana has the 57th ranked talent in the country lol

this game vs indiana is going to be nothing more than a glorified dress rehearsal for the sugar bowl vs georgia

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Trolling 101. Present opp as weak and easily beatable. If its a blowout, see told you they sucked, if its a tough game or loss, see told you ND sucked.
Its pretty clear Chase isnt a ND fan but a troll. Im guessing he is a Michigan fan judging by his lack of football knowledge & dbag posting style.

 

[savvyandsassier]

Trolling 101. Present opp as weak and easily beatable. If its a blowout, see told you they sucked, if its a tough game or loss, see told you ND sucked.
Its pretty clear Chase isnt a ND fan but a troll. Im guessing he is a Michigan fan judging by his lack of football knowledge & dbag posting style.

Yes, this is true. You must admit it gives ND fans, such as yourself, the opportunity to feel aggrieved and to protest and sneer on ND's behalf. But it's too easy for you. It's insulting to your intelligence. And in this case, he tried to get a little too sly, but was merely too clumsy about it. Oh really, does IU suck, well then I guess that means ND sucks if we don't beat them! Is that what you're saying, chaseball, does ND suck???

Obviously nobody minds too much, and everybody gets something out of it....

 

[Zorich 88]

Indiana is definitely a top 10 team. I expect ND to win but I do not expect a walk in the park. Rourke only attempted 18 passes vs osu. Indiana had a lot of 3 and outs and osu had 5 sacks.

 

[savvyandsassier]

I have no idea why anyone would consider IU an easy win. They look legit to me. They just beat Purdue 66-0. We only beat them 66-7. Seriously, I'm not being cute. They to tOSU, and they sort of just let it get away from. But they're totally capable of beating us. They're obviously a good team. And we don't even get the cold weather bump. I wanted to play SMU. And SMU is just a sweet team to watch. That would have been a righteous matchup. But the committee being the committee they have to tamper with things on general principle. They said CCGs weren't going to have any effect, they weren't going to hurt you. But they couldn't resist dropping SMU below IU. They had to flex.

 

[irishwolfpack]

Is that the national average for every game or just against UM/OSU?

Lol Mich/OSU teams didn't play >100 games

 

[NDinNJ]

Cignetti believes Indiana should be hosting Notre Dame 😂

 

[chaseball]

F+ factors all of this and everything in and they told me Indiana was the 10th best team in the country

Is F+ wrong ??

It sounds like you are really starting to catch on to the power of F+ -- which is great because it's an awesome tool but it's only one piece of the puzzle. Your talent level is also important. it's an indicator of how much upside your team can perform to any given week.

So you got to look at F+ and then you also got to look at the talent rank and then you also got to look at examples of the quality of teams played and how the team performed in those games.

Indiana F+ is #10 (do they still have their important players from the regular season that helped them produce this F+ ranking?)

Indiana's talent rank is #57 (which makes them one of the least talented teams in all of the P4)

Indiana has played one great team and one good team (both with really good defenses) all year and their offensive performance in those games were terrible

What is the line/odds in the upcoming game?

I would incorporate all of this into how I evaluated a team and what their potential performance could be in a head-to-head match up

Basically Notre Dame is way ahead vs Indiana in most of this criteria and should run over little bro quite easily (but anything of course could happen over a small sample size e.g. NIU) but 75 times out of 100 this ND team would win this game vs Indiana

 

[chaseball]

I wouldn’t be too cocky. They have a very good QB with pinpoint accuracy and can be very slippery vs the blitz. Their wideouts are big and can make those 50 /50 catches.

We’ve seen these games where we send the house and the QB just seems to slip out and throw a dart for a big play.
NIU comes to mind.

I don't know why Notre Dame fans love to hype up the opponent every week I don't know if this is a carryover from the Lou holtz days or from coach speak or how the PR of the university will hype up every opponent every game but it's just silly to me

Let's call Notre Dame for what it is and let's call their opponents for what it is we don't need to hype up the game and the teams like we are promoters trying to sell a pay-per-view fight

This Indiana team is about as week of a playoff opponent as Notre Dame fans could have asked for and they got in the playoff over much better teams. If Notre Dame has any shot at winning a national title this year this game should be pretty one-sided and a glorified dress rehearsal for Georgia

 

[chaseball]

Trolling 101. Present opp as weak and easily beatable. If its a blowout, see told you they sucked, if its a tough game or loss, see told you ND sucked.
Its pretty clear Chase isnt a ND fan but a troll. Im guessing he is a Michigan fan judging by his lack of football knowledge & dbag posting style.

I think this is what Notre Dame fans do but in the opposite direction.

Post histories are easy to comb through please find me a single example where I made the argument that Notre Dame sucks.

Because I don't blindly follow the hype and talk up Notre Dame like a homer like most of this board does -- And I call balls and strikes objectively as I see them-- I'm considered a hater and a troll so everything I say is filtered and perceived through that lens but it's a false narrative

Read my post history and find a single example where I said Notre Dame sucks (or even indicated it) I challenge anybody to find something anything that remotely says that chaseball thinks Notre Dame sucks in the history of my 17 years of posting here

One of the reasons I continue to post in the face of all of the hatred and name-calling directed at me is because I know it isn't me that Notre Dame fans hate. They hate the reality of where Notre Dame football stands in the hierarchy of college football over the last 30+ years and they hate the mirror of reality that I hold up to their face on this forum.

 

[Irish_inPSU]

Games are decided on the field... period. You can take most of these stats with a grain of salt. The wrinkles, like coaching staff and their game plan for a game, weather, injuries, home field advantage, turnovers... the list goes on. They all play a part, sometimes the deciding part of a game.

If we play well, eliminate or minimize turnover and take care of business, I expect ND to win by a touchdown or 10pts.

Two things bother me about this game. One, Indiana is well coached and their playing with the same chip on their shoulder that the HC seems to have. No one expected them to be here so they will play with nothing to lose really. ND was expected to be here.

Secondly, Indiana's rush defense is stout, so I expect them to keep our backs bottled up pretty well in this game.

This could very well be a defensive slugfest and low scoring. Being a home game is big IMO.

 

[Golson5]

It sounds like you are really starting to catch on to the power of F+ -- which is great because it's an awesome tool but it's only one piece of the puzzle. Your talent level is also important. it's an indicator of how much upside your team can perform to any given week.

So you got to look at F+ and then you also got to look at the talent rank and then you also got to look at examples of the quality of teams played and how the team performed in those games.

Indiana F+ is #10 (do they still have their important players from the regular season that helped them produce this F+ ranking?)

Indiana's talent rank is #57 (which makes them one of the least talented teams in all of the P4)

Indiana has played one great team and one good team (both with really good defenses) all year and their offensive performance in those games were terrible

What is the line/odds in the upcoming game?

I would incorporate all of this into how I evaluated a team and what their potential performance could be in a head-to-head match up

Basically Notre Dame is way ahead vs Indiana in most of this criteria and should run over little bro quite easily (but anything of course could happen over a small sample size e.g. NIU) but 75 times out of 100 this ND team would win this game vs Indiana

No F+ factors in everything and I believe what they tell me. They factor all those things you mentioned and still rank Indiana 10th

They are the 10th best team in the country and a win would be very impressive

Seems like you are all of a sudden going against the best rating system out there, F+

When it worked for what you were saying it was infallible. Now all of a sudden you have to factor in many things

That was something you didn't say previously. Very very interesting

 

[chaseball]

No F+ factors in everything and I believe what they tell me. They factor all those things you mentioned and still rank Indiana 10th

They are the 10th best team in the country and a win would be very impressive

Seems like you are all of a sudden going against the best rating system out there, F+

When it worked for what you were saying it was infallible. Now all of a sudden you have to factor in many things

That was something you didn't say previously. Very very interesting

What motivation do I have to warp the narrative. there is no financial gain to be had there is no motivation trying to make things seem different than what I believe them to be. At some point you got to give somebody the benefit of the doubt.

have I been accurate have I been correct does what I say make intuitive sense?

 

[Golson5]

What motivation do I have to warp the narrative. there is no financial gain to be had there is no motivation trying to make things seem different than what I believe them to be. At some point you got to give somebody the benefit of the doubt.

have I been accurate have I been correct does what I say make intuitive sense?

No, no and no

Nothing else mattered when we argued about F+ previously. Nothing else matters when you speak about recruiting rankings. Trust F+ blindly, trust the evaluators of recruiting sites blindly.

Now all of a sudden, you have to factor in x,y and z for F+

Instead of agreeing with F+ who you defended for years and years and years against every poster on here, now you are saying there are other factors involved

Why is that now all of a sudden. Because you don't want to say ND beat a top 10 team and if they lose you can crush them for losing to an overrated team.

You got yourself into quite a pickle here

 

[raulduke_007]

No, no and no

Nothing else mattered when we argued about F+ previously. Nothing else matters when you speak about recruiting rankings. Trust F+ blindly, trust the evaluators of recruiting sites blindly.

Now all of a sudden, you have to factor in x,y and z for F+

Instead of agreeing with F+ who you defended for years and years and years against every poster on here, now you are saying there are other factors involved

Why is that now all of a sudden. Because you don't want to say ND beat a top 10 team and if they lose you can crush them for losing to an overrated team.

You got yourself into quite a pickle here

Because when F+ said ND wasnt elite it fit Chase's narrative now that F+ says ND is elite it doesnt fit his narrative now it's flawed.

 

[Zorich 88]

Cignetti believes Indiana should be hosting Notre Dame 😂

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This guy is a clown. Indiana has zero big wins. The only thing this clown can talk about is how great his lose was compared to who ND lost to. Lets compare wins. Indiana had zero BIG wins.

Yes, coaches should stand up for their team but come on, you beat nobody, you did nothing great this season.

 

[NDblitz]

Holy Cow.. I just realized minus Ohio and Michigan they played the entire bottom protion of the B1G. I was logo chasing and somehow thought MSU and Nebraska were higher up.

 

[CFFan1971]

Like most games, it's pretty simple. If IU can't stop the running game, they can't win. If they can't stop the running game and also ND slows their QB down, it could get very out of hand. It all comes down to if ND's lines are just too much physically for IU and IU's depth.

 

[BGI User 756]

Trolling 101. Present opp as weak and easily beatable. If its a blowout, see told you they sucked, if its a tough game or loss, see told you ND sucked.
Its pretty clear Chase isnt a ND fan but a troll. Im guessing he is a Michigan fan judging by his lack of football knowledge & dbag posting style.

Exactly

 

[BGI User 756]

What motivation do I have to warp the narrative. there is no financial gain to be had there is no motivation trying to make things seem different than what I believe them to be. At some point you got to give somebody the benefit of the doubt.

have I been accurate have I been correct does what I say make intuitive sense?

Because it gets you excited

 

[Harpo Marxist]

NIU lost to: Buffalo, NC State, Toledo, Ball State and Miami of Ohio.......and beat Notre Dame.

 

[christophero]

Respect your opponent. We don't need lol@Indiana threads. They are a good team, who I think we can beat if we play well. Why provide them with bulletin board material.

 

[Holycrossover3]

in the only 2 games they played vs a formidable opponent they did nothing
indiana has the 57th ranked talent in the country lol

this game vs indiana is going to be nothing more than a glorified dress rehearsal for the sugar bowl vs georgia

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This tweet takes the average of 2 games against 2 top 14 defenses in the nation and compares them to the average of the entire season. What a terrible way to compare stats.

 

[sjb75]

This guy is a clown. Indiana has zero big wins. The only thing this clown can talk about is how great his lose was compared to who ND lost to. Lets compare wins. Indiana had zero BIG wins.

Yes, coaches should stand up for their team but come on, you beat nobody, you did nothing great this season.

What's he supposed to say?

 

[NDinNJ]

Respect your opponent. We don't need lol@Indiana threads. They are a good team, who I think we can beat if we play well. Why provide them with bulletin board material.

Yea because the IU players and staff read or care what's posted on an anonymous Internet forum.,

 

[THUNDERSTRUCK111]

I don't know why Notre Dame fans love to hype up the opponent every week I don't know if this is a carryover from the Lou holtz days or from coach speak or how the PR of the university will hype up every opponent every game but it's just silly to me

Let's call Notre Dame for what it is and let's call their opponents for what it is we don't need to hype up the game and the teams like we are promoters trying to sell a pay-per-view fight

This Indiana team is about as week of a playoff opponent as Notre Dame fans could have asked for and they got in the playoff over much better teams. If Notre Dame has any shot at winning a national title this year this game should be pretty one-sided and a glorified dress rehearsal for Georgia

Probably a reason we won the national championship in 1988.

 

[NDblitz]

NIU lost to: Buffalo, NC State, Toledo, Ball State and Miami of Ohio.......and beat Notre Dame.

Yep….. they sure did bud!

 

[Zorich 88]

What's he supposed to say?

Nothing! If he would have beat osu then yes, home game. But he lost his only big game and did not win the coreference. so keep your mouth shut and play the game.

 

[Zorich 88]

Respect your opponent. We don't need lol@Indiana threads. They are a good team, who I think we can beat if we play well. Why provide them with bulletin board material.

Yes, they are good. However, they are not one of ND's toughest opponents.

 

[Golson5]

Yes, they are good. However, they are not one of ND's toughest opponents.

This year? Easily one of their tougher opps

 

[chaseball]

No, no and no

Nothing else mattered when we argued about F+ previously. Nothing else matters when you speak about recruiting rankings. Trust F+ blindly, trust the evaluators of recruiting sites blindly.

Now all of a sudden, you have to factor in x,y and z for F+

Instead of agreeing with F+ who you defended for years and years and years against every poster on here, now you are saying there are other factors involved

Why is that now all of a sudden. Because you don't want to say ND beat a top 10 team and if they lose you can crush them for losing to an overrated team.

You got yourself into quite a pickle here

It's called advancing the discussion forward. I think the board understands the validity of F+ now so instead of being bogged down in lengthy arguments about the validity of the system we can advance the discussion forward.

F+ is powerful tool to assess the landscape of college football but its an automated formula/algorithm. You rely on the system where its strong (ranking all 130+ teams by their offensive, defensive, and special teams production) but compensate for it where its weak or has blind spots entirely (individual matchups, roster attrition, team talent, etc.)

Also, this would be NDs best opponent all season, I agree. But that says more about the lack of quality of NDs schedule more than anything else.

 

[raulduke_007]

It's called advancing the discussion forward. I think the board understands the validity of F+ now so instead of being bogged down in lengthy arguments about the validity of the system we can advance the discussion forward.

F+ is powerful tool to assess the landscape of college football but its an automated formula/algorithm. You rely on the system where its strong (aggregate rankings) but compensate for it where its weak or has blindspots entirely (individual matchups, roster attrition, team talent, etc.)

Also, this would be NDs best opponent all season, I agree. But that says more about the lack of quality of this seasons schedule more than anything else.

ND beat multiple teams that beat top 10 opp.'s. A&M beat Mizzo & LSU who were top 10, Lville destroyed Clemson & was in 1 score games with Miami, SMU, ND and Tech beat Miami & lost in 8 ot's to Georgia. Army & Navy were undefeated & had everything to play for & nothing to lose and ND smacked them both. USC beat LSU & PSU needed a large comeback & OT to beat them. Troll better sport.