Exactly. He's competing at a very high level as a sophomore. He's likely not done growing taller, and can absolutely increase his football quickness.
We need more 5 star fans.
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We need more 5 star fans.
Charlie Weis also had some of the most unbalanced classes in recent ND history.
There is a lot more to recruiting than star rankings. USC had great classes many times but their inability to bring in offensive and defensive linemen held back a ton of elite skill players. Weis was constantly moving lineman to the defense because of his failures recruiting to his defense.
I agree. Too many holes back in the Weis era. However, they had some star power which was what propelled BK to the title game. Those kids just needed a program and coaching, which BK provided. Notre Dame recruiting under Freeman feels a lot more like the BK era of recruiting than what people expected, just minus the Jaylon Smith types. Hopefully it doesn’t add a dose of the Weis era in coaching to put a double negative on it. This season with Hartman will say a lot about where Freeman’s career is headed. Blow it this season and I really don’t know what the excuse makers can come up with.
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The TE next year is a 5 star talent
Carr Williams and Lambert are 5 star talents right now.
The TE next year is a 5 star talent
This class is a lock to finish top 15
If we have a big year and flip then top 10
I think it's top 10 regardless because the ridiculous rankings of some of our recruits. But who cares. A lot of good talent added to a talented roster
And 25 will be the best of them all
If we have a big year and flip then top 10
I think it's top 10 regardless because the ridiculous rankings of some of our recruits. But who cares. A lot of good talent added to a talented roster
And 25 will be the best of them all
It's because of numbers. Due to the transfer portal high volume positions like Wr and LB need a set number of guys each year or you risk forcing yourself to go portal if there are transfers. What happened numbers wise at wr due to our last coach being so inept should never be an issue. This class with three puts ND back where they should be long term at wr.
Every team can argue about a handful of kids with unfair rankings.
A #15 class isn’t winning a title.
The present arguments between the Freeman lovers and the not good enough crowd is in expectations. Some would like to turn it up a notch on the field. Others just want a game to watch on Saturdays. Neither is wrong. It’s just a matter of what one wants.
Hes close to a 4 star by 247. ISD rates him a 4 star. So does Driskell
Hes talented. Hes not a bum
Top 15. Doesnt day where in the top 15. Put very talented classes around elite QBs and you can compete for a Title
You are arguing with a nitwit who has no idea about the University and couldn't find his way to South Bend with a gps.
He committed as soon as we offered. He wants to be here, for the right reasons.
He’s fast and quick as hell
He’s gotta be tough. Wrestlers are tough MFers
It’s good to keep getting kids out of CA
Let him play the slot, and let’s see what happens.
Not blown away by the get, but certainly not mad about it. He’s the 3rd WR in the class, there is low risk here. I also trust Stuckey.
We’ve got 5 stars at QB, WR, and OT. Sure starters/impact guys at WR, TE, and IOL as well. This class is fine.
He’s fast and quick as hell
He’s gotta be tough. Wrestlers are tough MFers
It’s good to keep getting kids out of CA
Let him play the slot, and let’s see what happens.
Not blown away by the get, but certainly not mad about it. He’s the 3rd WR in the class, there is low risk here. I also trust Stuckey.
We’ve got 5 stars at QB, WR, and OT. Sure starters/impact guys at WR, TE, and IOL as well. This class is fine.
Posters are disappointed with a 3 star slot receiver … meanwhile we had to start a walk-on slot receiver for 2 years and played a season with 4 healthy scholarship receivers but this is somehow going backwards?
Tyreek Hill was elite ,the kid going to Oregon from Cali this year is elite, ( 10.14) 10.8 isn’t elite that’s all I was commenting on—-don’t get all jerked up about it. And I doubt he’s going to run a 10.40 electric once he adds 15/20 lbs.
I wouldn’t worry about it , recruiting class rankings are a lot less important with the portal. There will be plenty of portal candidates available by the end of the year.
And we ranked way lower in portal rankings. ND doesn’t take undergraduate transfers unless they come from Ivy or top 20 schools like Duke or NU and are majoring in a degree that ND offers (hence the ability to actual accept credits). We are actually losing big time due to the portal. We cannot take essentially SEC players for instance. I’m fine with looking at the positive of the portal like getting Hartman, but we have to look at it for what it is.
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But in typical ND fashion, we get a nice piece in the portal in 4 star Hartman, and then turn around lose a nice 4 star piece Logan Diggs. Diggs ran for over 800 yards and 4 Tds last year with a 5+ yard per carry average and was a big piece of the running game last year and nobody seems to care that he's gone.
Championship teams are STACKING pieces DEEP all over the field and they are adding to their roster not fixing one area of the roster only for a new problem to rear its ugly ahead in another.
This is what losing looks like.
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Nah, you are what losing looks like. You go through life with a black cloud over your head.
I’ll have to do some research but Amir Carlisle comes to mind immediately. SC is a top school but not an ivy , there are plenty of guys we can get. We’ve picked up guys from Ohio st, NC state, Fla , so I’m not that worried about finding talent. How many transfers did we take last year and how many were from the Ivy League? We did get the #1 portal qb last year
I realize that—-moron. What’s your problem other than being a bitter, miserable, angry and not very intelligent human being?
Stop acting so surprised. Freeman is doing well recruiting considering he is a marginal coach. Also consider our new OC is a first year unknown. I am sure the other schools are pointing out those 2 very relevant facts. The top kids that sign just like Freeman or ND. Some recruits are more logical in their decision. I am sure the staff is giving 100% effort.
You start this drivel all the time.
Getting a QB doesn't get offset by losing an rb.
Hate to break this to you but our rb room is what 5 deep right now. We can easily replace diggs production. And you also ignore the fact that we brought in a transfer rb that was actually rated higher than diggs coming out of high school...oh yeah and Tyree is still available in an emergency to move back; now with a oc that understands not to run him straight up the middle.
Replacing 900 yards with Payne, price, Ford, love is more than doable.
You are basically complaining that ND cannot replace who would have been nds third string back last year if price hadn't gotten hurt.
You are wrong.
There is only one ball.
Can we start a poll on how many participants in the topic are chaseball....
Most are grad transfers. Portal ain’t our schtick. I bet we go for a top QB grad transfer for 2024 though. I’m down with that.
ND needs September to get here and start winning games. This has been a meh offseason on the recruiting trail.
People are overreacting. When Lambert becomes public we'll have the number 5 class. And theres a lot of undervalued kids in this class.
Mullins, Young and Moore for sure
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