Logan Diggs to Transfer
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Ya this one is weird. All the other 3 big transfers this week were guys who are supposedly super talented but didn’t get results or playing time. Diggs seemed to be the opposite of that, always thought he maxxed out his talent. Oh well, more time for price/Payne/love
ND's IN/OUT portal activity is starting to look like a baseball trade:
Kollie, Styles, Diggs and Buchner FOR Sam Hartman. And if it were so, it's a deal that many -- including me -- would do.
My concern, though, is that there's a kind of PONZI SCHEME potentially at work here. Namely, the more successfully ND recruits -- assuming that ACTUALLY happens as it's NOT a given -- the more stock-piled in talent it gets, and as a result, the more guys wind up entering the portal.
And since ND doesn't seem to be taking IN what it's LOSING, you wind up over time SHEDDING a good percentage of the best players you recruited.
Because why would a proven player -- and seemingly OBVIOUS FIT -- like Diggs bolt after a stellar year? He apparently didn't like his chances getting the amount of PT he wanted.
If this continues, ND could turn into a program that GROOMS high-potential players for RIVAL TEAMS. A kind of HS POST-GRAD destination.
A FINISHING SCHOOL.
Strange on the surface because Diggs was one of our two headed running back monster. But, he apparently wants To be the featured back and that’s not going to happen with Estime around. I’m surprised because he experienced a good deal of success last season, but not surprised in that he has felt like a transfer risk ever since he committed. Our RB room has tremendous talent, but Estime is the only one with any experience. I think we’ll Be just fine as long as Estime remains healthy, but for me, this is our first transfer portal loss that materially hurts.
Oh man, this is a huge loss. We have other RBs but Logan Diggs was a quality back!
This sucks, and does seem totally out of left field. Maybe he was falling behind Payne or something. Shit....
This sucks, and does seem totally out of left field. Maybe he was falling behind Payne or something. Shit....
DL S and a RB for sure. Or….. get a WR and move Tyree back? But I’m not sure Tyree would be happy. I think he realizes he’s a better fit at slot.
Sucks to lose Diggs but....
Estime/ Price / Love & Payne is still pretty loaded. Love is a big time talent and elite HS rb recruit. He's gonna play as a Fr. If Coaches are confident that Price is going to be fully healthy come fall no need at all to get a rb from portal. 4 rbs is plenty and Tyree can go back to rb if needed.
No to portal DL / OL
Meh re Wr
Yes re portal for S position imo
Price is really the question mark… is he ready to make big plays and be aw some or is he still going through the recovery process come fall
This doesn't bother me. Diggs is an average back. Estime is the starter. Payne showed a lot of promise in the spring game. Got Price and Love raring to go.
Another quitter who doesn't want to compete. NIL and Portal killing the game of CFB
Yes. It worked out for them but how about the ones it did not. Honestly Estimate going pro next year. As a RB you want at most one year of high usage. Anything more is just dumb.
This makes no sense, 99% of teams share snaps at RB. He had more rush attempts than Estime last year despite not playing squat in the 1st four games due to injury. There’s something else rather than “competing”. NDs two deepest positions just got real inexperienced. Backs ups at QB and RB haven’t played a snap.
QB's don't split snaps. Diggs will go somewhere else and split carries just like at ND. But now he won't have the full weight of the ND alumni to fall back on post-college.
Short-sighted move.
They won't take an rb. Worst case Tyree splits time or can move back. We have plenty of bodies that can play rb. Estime, Payne, price, love
It makes total sense. He almost left last year. Rees was credited as a big reason he stayed. He wants to be featured as a back. He's obviously second in that room and now add the multiple other options. This should surprise no one.
Rb is the one position where experience means the LEAST. We will be fine here.
Remember the consensus last year was that price would likely have started if not for his Achilles.
At one point I was wondering If the transfer portal will cause teams to rethink their recruiting strategy to focus more on every other year by position to try to prevent too much turnover from impatient players wanting instant gratification. But then came to the conclusion that we should continue to try to get the best players possible for every position every year and let yearly competition determine the rate of transfers and our annual roster. Guys who can’t break into the starting lineup are going to leave every year, and guys who want bigger roles than the competition will warrant will as well. I actually think ND will fare better than most in that the lifelong benefit of the degree will cause some to delay this decision, helping us maintain decent depth. But the depth issue is the one that concerns me the most. I keep thinking that one of Rocco or Kristofic is going to enter the portal, the one who is not likely to start, either will hurt us depth wise. I keep reading that Rocco was the best guard of the two in the scrimmage as well as the Spring game, and yet Kristofic keeps getting mentioned as the likely starter. Unlike Diggs leaving where inexperienced talented running backs can contribute immediately, the OL needs seasoned depth. We’ll know shortly.
Says me...based on the fact Estime will go pro after this year as could Diggs. I think both would be the main running backs again this year and I think you do not want an overload of carries in College football anyways. Less mileage is better in my humble opinion.
He will split time wherever he goes, he out carried Estime last year despite missing 1/3 of the season. Playing time was not going to be an issue especially with Prices status up in the air. You’re alluding to his lack of PT/compete as being the reason, I don’t think it is. He’s been rumored as a transfer candidate for years, likely a different issue that PT.
Seeing Kristofic playing right tackle in the Spring game was quite interesting. If the season started tomorrow I'm guessing Schrauth and Spindler would be starting.
Lots of chatter about LSU. A homecoming makes perfect sense. A quality player for sure. It's the reality of the game now. Tons of players leaving everywhere.
At the time he committed to us, I seem to recall a lot of chatter that he really wanted an LSU offer, which only came some time after he had committed. LSU makes a lot of sense in terms of his childhood dream to play there, but makes little sense in terms of his desire to be the featured back and walking away from a ND degree.
I hope you’re right. We know Kristofic’s ceiling, which is good but not great; and if Rocco beats him out, that should elevate our game. But Kristofic would be a valuable Swiss knife depth piece. Hope they both stay.
Maybe Kristofic is being groomed to be that first lineman in for either guard or tackle should someone go down.
Me too. I think Kristofic is the backup for 4 positions, heck maybe 5. Kinda how Lugg was.
The key is, we need to be better and not plan on starting kristofic the next season or two unlike Lugg. There is a reason lugg wasn't a starter for awhile, and it showed when he did start.
Tackles concern me big time next year if both Alt and Fish leave.
I don't agree about your finishing school argument, but I do think the new paradigm is an issue for academic-minded schools who still care about their players getting their degrees. Because we can't replace all these undergrad transfers that we're losing, except with freshman recruiting and the occasional grad transfer. That's due to the admissions department still being very strict about undergrad transfers.
Schools like Stanford and Northwestern will suffer as well. Notice both had very poor seasons last year (3-9 and 1-11). That's probably not a coincidence. This new paradigm's tough on any program that still values academics.
We may need to start recruiting about 30 freshmen a year, to allow for future transfer losses. And take in as many quality grad transfers as possible.
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