LeBron James Gets Swept.
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Michael Jordan is the greatest NBA player of all time, and that is according to the vast majority of NBA past and present personnel.
You will always have a vocal minority who say otherwise on this, or any subject.
Would you rather have Michael Jordan on your NBA team for an entire career, or LeBron James? I know damn well who would win a vote of NBA past and present personnel, and the vote would not be close..
Gm 6 vs Orlando hahahaha. After he just got off the professional baseball field. What a tool
So that makes him the greatest? Even Kobe was an overall better basketball talent than LeBrick another FT James.
“No they couldnt. That team didnt have a 20pt scorer. They had a bunch of old vets that couldnt ave 30 minutes a game. Smits was either in foul trouble or had to sit long stretches because he fatigued so easily. Mullins ave like 11 pts a game. Mark Jackson & Jalen Rose were subpar shooters. That team would struggle to win 30 games in this era & that was MJ's toughest test.”
Lol. Smits was a top 5 center, no doubt, back when the NBA had true centers. They had both younger players and vets and could go 9-10 deep. There are at least 4-5 playoff teams this year that wouldn’t smell the playoffs back then. “Struggle to win 30 games today”? Lmao. No need to argue w/ you anymore about this.
Lol. Smits was a top 5 center, no doubt, back when the NBA had true centers. They had both younger players and vets and could go 9-10 deep. There are at least 4-5 playoff teams this year that wouldn’t smell the playoffs back then. “Struggle to win 30 games today”? Lmao. No need to argue w/ you anymore about this.
You talk alot about expansion teams and being a watered-down league, what about average age of the player? As in, maturity, knowing how to play the game. In 1998 the league average was 28.1 years old; today, it's 26.1. The league has gotten 2yrs younger, less development, less maturity.
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Baylor was my favorite player growing up, and his game was acrobatic and flashy and his hang time extraordinary. He dominated games and seemed like he could score at will in one on one drives into the paint against anyone until those championship series with the Celtics and Satch Sanders, a name I haven’t thought of in several decades. He was one hell of a defensive player.
It's certainly debatable. I think it's fair to say MJ may be the best player of all time but LeBron has had the greatest career of all time when factoring in every aspect.
Earlier on in his career, he did pass on pressure shots a lot. That was a knock on him. Not so much nowadays though.
If we’re talking longevity, no one has played at a high level for this long, but I don’t think he’s had the best career “factoring in every aspect”. His athleticism is off the charts, but his basketball skills aren’t as good as the others mentioned for being the goat. And Jordan’s athleticism takes a backseat to no one, including lebron, and his skills were better. Lebron is one of the best ever, but he’s not better than everyone that’s ever played, I’d take a handful in front of him if I were starting a team for a season. I know some wouldn’t and that fine, that’s what good debate is all about.
If we’re talking longevity, no one has played at a high level for this long, but I don’t think he’s had the best career “factoring in every aspect”. His athleticism is off the charts, but his basketball skills aren’t as good as the others mentioned for being the goat. And Jordan’s athleticism takes a backseat to no one, including lebron, and his skills were better. Lebron is one of the best ever, but he’s not better than everyone that’s ever played, I’d take a handful in front of him if I were starting a team for a season. I know some wouldn’t and that fine, that’s what good debate is all about.
Yeah sure.....
That tough muscular Reggie Miller played 20 years yet the guy that was 70 pounds more and stronger couldn't. That rough and tough Stockton lasted 20 years.
Keep making me 🤣🤣 with your nonsense
The physically imposing Reggie Miller. He took that "beating" for 20 years. What a monster he was
A perfect 6 and 0 yes. Because he lost before getting to the Finals. So he lost quicker so does that make it look better for you.
Thats always one of the dumbest arguments ever. He lost sooner so thats better. So dumb
You can use so many things to say MJ is the Goat. Which he is 1 or 2. But that argument is awful. You can do better than that
Did you watch back then or no?
How about the fact that the NBA is a world game now. So many great players from across the world that MJ didnt have to deal with.You talk alot about expansion teams and being a watered-down league, what about average age of the player? As in, maturity, knowing how to play the game. In 1998 the league average was 28.1 years old; today, it's 26.1. The league has gotten 2yrs younger, less development, less maturity.
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How many more rings would Lebron have if he didnt have to go up against Dirk, Parker, Ginobli, Jokic?
Thats not even counting guys like Giannis, Embiid, Luka
The NBA is so much deeper now because of the great International players. Lebron may have 8 or 9 rings of those guys weren't around
LeBron predicted that many rings when he went to the Miami Heat in July-2010, with his hand picked team, promising Heat fans multiple titles.
"Not one, not two, not three, not four, not five..."
Then reality set in.
I hear you. You also have to consider that international players had a harder time making the league back then because of the physicality and rules. They certainly tried. Kukoc is someone who would thrive in today's league.
Something else not discussed often, average game score / pace of play. In the 90's I think 4 or 5 teams per year would average above 110 points per game. This past season only the Miami Heat did not average over 110 points per game. So Durant's / Lebron's 29ppg are not the same as MJ's 31ppg. Same for rebounds and assists - there are slightly more of those to go around as well.
Per and WinShare is where the real stats are.
What about MJ playing more back-to-back games? The league is all about load management now and has adjusted the schedule multiple times. Jordan played 82 games 9 times in his career, Lebron has played 82 games once.
No doubt what Lbj is doing at 38 is remarkable.
That Pacers squad was good though. Smits, Miller, Jackson, Travis Best and the Davis’. The Cavs with Brad Doroughy and Mark Price were also a good team.
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The 1995--96 Chicago Bulls, 72 wins and a title, is the greatest single season of all time.
Come on, his super team he constructed loss to Dirk and Parker, Ginobli- imagine if he stayed with the team he was drafted by and faced those guys? Wait, he wouldn’t have made it there to have the chance. Dude couldn’t get it done with 3-4 hall of famers and a former Finals MVP. Poor guy had to face the mighty Parker and Ginobli with the super team he created, poor bastard.
The last 3, well he hasn’t been simply good enough- if they aren’t in the league, he still doesn’t win a ring. Luka hasn’t played for a ring, Lebron couldn’t make it out of the West to face Giannis and Lakers getting smacked by the East (in the event they didn’t get swept).
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Just imagine if Lebron didn’t use free agency to recruit top players in the league, how many rings- 1-2?
Just imagine if MJ recruited the leagues elite to come play with him- just asinine
Every time you post you show how little you know about basketball. You are showing what a complete fool you are, and you've lost any credibility you had. You are comparing a shooting guard to a power forward. Its like me stating that it amazes me that Curry lasted so long in as you put it "such a muscular and athletic league" GTFO, lol 😂 you are clueless and i'm sitting here laughing at your bs.
Spin it anyway you like but when he got to the finals he won period, and he did it with one team without bringing in superstars. Bron had to move teams and join other superstars to win a title and he failed more than he succeeded. 😂 you really are a joke and i'm finding your bs humorous. Lol what a tool you are.
What did Michael do the following year? Swept that same Magic team and went on to beat a 64 win Sonic team in 6 in the finals.
The only debate is between fans. James wins among younger fans and MJ with older fans. The vast majority of the coaches and players who competed against both are squarely in MJ’s camp.
Has the purity in basketball been eroded over the last 75 years, especially since the widespread televising of games ?
Palming, carrying, traveling, 3 seconds, forcefully backing in, reduction in charging fouls ?
Palming, carrying, traveling, 3 seconds, forcefully backing in, reduction in charging fouls ?
I know more basketball than you'll ever know
Tell us again how that tough Reggie Miller lasted 20 years but Lebron could not Lol
I've been laughing at your BS. You sound like those old timers that said the 50s and 60s were better than the 70s and 90s.
People are so moronic.
And he lost 9 years because he couldn't make the Finals. He was getting smoked until he got Pippen and the 80s teams got old. The league expanded and got watered down and there was no International players.
He never beat a team in the Finals who had the same or more HOFers than his team. His team was a superteam playing against good but not elite competition
Drexler and who.....was on that 92 Blazers team. Come on. His biggest threat in the East was the Knicks and they had 1 HOFer. Same with the Pacers
Weak competition
MJ won first ring in 7th season. LBJ won first ring in 9th season.
LBJ needed to arrange his two wingmen All Stars to Miami, to win it all
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