Actually it won't. Ryan Leaf and J. Manziel got to the NFL. It is what happens when you get there.
Kizer's thoughts...
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If that is true then why is he projected as the 4th best QB in his own class? Many NFL people do not agree with you. But then again that's not new news to you anyway.
The only way he goes in the first or second round is if a team reaches for a QB which we see teams do every year. Let's face it, it would have done him a world of good to stay at ND and develop into a first round QB. Oh well!
When you differ from HH and Purs, you know you are on the right side of the issue.
and play for fans like you guys? and a Head Coach that vitually campains against him?
Absurd! Getting away from the ND situation was his correct decision. Time will prove that, just as it has proven the past 7+ years. The truth will find you out!
Absurd! Getting away from the ND situation was his correct decision. Time will prove that, just as it has proven the past 7+ years. The truth will find you out!
The Kelly years are as much about the abscence of positive. Pointing that out is deemed negative.
A ND Kelly coached player suffering misfortune pleases some ND fans! And the pathetic explanation was he was unprepared by the guy charged with preparing him. Duh!
As to Kelly's DK veiled 'not ready' 'praise' :Flattery is telling the other person precisely what he thinks about himsel
NO, it does not please true ND fans.
As to Kelly's DK veiled 'not ready' 'praise' :Flattery is telling the other person precisely what he thinks about himsel
NO, it does not please true ND fans.
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I only give place to those who are smart, sensible, humorous and open minded. I don’t want to make an exception for you and offend those.
Get back on your meds Approaching 30000 posts. Get a job.
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Fans like us who actually support him, and root for him? Hell yes! No one wants to play for "so called" fans like you or Bugshit!
I think it please you (perseverare) for ND's struggles last season. You seem to be nothing more then a fair weather fan who only watches ND from a TV set and gets his info from a liberal media. You are noting but a one trick pony who knows only one thing and that is to bash a football coach based on what he has heard on TV. ND does not need fans like you, go root for Michigan or Purdue.
The only people who think Kizer is a big time NFL QB are Purse and Kizer himself. Kizer has B+ physical tools C- mental make up and D- mechanics.
With Fuller, Procise, C Brown and R Stanley gone from 2015. He folded under pressure and crumbled in the 4th quarter. ND was an 8-9 win team with just Tommy Rees last year.
Kizer will bang around for a few years as a 2nd or 3rd stringer. Excited for BW after last years 4th quarter QB grease fires.
With Fuller, Procise, C Brown and R Stanley gone from 2015. He folded under pressure and crumbled in the 4th quarter. ND was an 8-9 win team with just Tommy Rees last year.
Kizer will bang around for a few years as a 2nd or 3rd stringer. Excited for BW after last years 4th quarter QB grease fires.
Not a good day for Kizer. There is no doubt he should have stayed in school.
Kiper said why would a QB with a 4-8 record leave early. Terrible decision by DK.
Agreed! When he wasn't able to complete a pass in the NC State hurrigame I lost respect for Kizer. I mean the defense was rock solid for him and the coaching adjustments were perfect all year.
All those opportunities Kelly gave him to complete passes in 70 MPH winds and he just melted down. What a failure!
Leaving early because you think you're first round talent...only to get picked 52nd by the Browns...hard to see that's "the right decision". Lesson learned I suppose.
How could he have not gotten better?
Maybe he didn't want to compete with BK. Bad decisio to come out and to get selected by the Browns compounds the disastrous choice.
It would've been so much better to go back to the QB killer coach, play for free, and get benched because of a bad pass.
Now, he has a chance to develop into a future starter for a team that is having a great draft and make millions. You're right, horrible decision.
That is a result of three years under the watch and teaching of coach Kelly. Three years!!!!!! If you think one additional year under Kelly will improve on those results, you'll need to look up the definition of insanity.
Getting drafted in the 2nd round is not a tragedy, although getting drafted by the Browns in any round might be.
Stay one more year, work on the issues (footwork, decision making) that were pointed out in the scouting report...and work your way into mid-late first round signing bonus money next year. Of course nothing is guaranteed. Maybe he gets hurt. Maybe Kelly pulls him. However, other than the physical tools...what did he show this past year that made anyone think he was a first round talent? The players can take out insurance policies for a year to compensate in case of injury. If he stays, there's a better than average chance ND wins more games this year and his draft stock improves. Now, he doesn't get first round money AND he is currently stuck with Cleveland. If he doesn't get traded...he may start a few games but is probably heading for backup status unless he makes great improvement. Guess it still pays.
He did put himself up for a pre-draft evaluation from the NFL back in January. Has he released what that report provided as guidance?
Kizer made it to the middle of the 2nd round in the NFL draft with virtually no coaching at all from Kelly. Now he still gets paid millions and gets the benefit of pro coaches to learn under with no fear of injury or Kelly's next tirade of blame ball. Hopefully Tommy Reese helps but he is nowhere near a pro level coach.
Kelly's hate train will be derailed soon enough.
DK is in the NFL
And .... '...agent's still working the phones looking for a job; any job'
DK is in the NFL
And .... '...agent's still working the phones looking for a job; any job'
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Complete disaster for Kizer. 12-11 record. With at least 5 of those losses directly related to his lack of leadership and poor QB play. Not mentally tough enough or competent enough to take coaching from Purses Hero Mike Sanford. And now goes to the worst team in the NFL.
PS not only did Brian Kelly say he is not ready so did Louis Riddick, Mel Kiper and Todd McShay. To paraphrase Terrible Mechanics, Holds on to the ball too long, makes poor decisions under pressue, inconsistent and often times innacurare.
Yeah purse he is "Special". Or maybe its you that is "special".
PS not only did Brian Kelly say he is not ready so did Louis Riddick, Mel Kiper and Todd McShay. To paraphrase Terrible Mechanics, Holds on to the ball too long, makes poor decisions under pressue, inconsistent and often times innacurare.
Yeah purse he is "Special". Or maybe its you that is "special".
^ only the least sophisticated are on the blame the kids train.
The real man is one who always finds excuses for others, but never excuses himself.
The real man is one who always finds excuses for others, but never excuses himself.
Kizer got out before he got the Dayne Crist treatment.
and the way he gets dissed by the Kelly-only fans proves he made the correct decision. The efforts to adhere blame for the '16 fiasco were shameful.
One thing we cannot know is how any conversations between Kelly and GM's transpired. I have to believe that a GM who was potential drafter of DK reached out to BK. Based upon the way DK fell out of RD 1, one can only speculate that the comments went along the same lines as the public critique.
DK deserved better. One thing for certain, DK is better off today if only addition by subtraction.
Good Luck to Kizer.
and the way he gets dissed by the Kelly-only fans proves he made the correct decision. The efforts to adhere blame for the '16 fiasco were shameful.
One thing we cannot know is how any conversations between Kelly and GM's transpired. I have to believe that a GM who was potential drafter of DK reached out to BK. Based upon the way DK fell out of RD 1, one can only speculate that the comments went along the same lines as the public critique.
DK deserved better. One thing for certain, DK is better off today if only addition by subtraction.
Good Luck to Kizer.
I wish him good luck - I also agree with BK that he really wasn't ready, but not many are - coming back was also going to be a roll of the dice because his experience may not have trumped the competition from BW.
You are the leader of the hate train. Does that mean you will crash and burn soon? Love to see it.
I would like to hear one name other then Kizer himself who thinks he is ready for the NFL? Name one person who thinks Kizer would not have benefitted for staying at ND for more year to develop? Good idea to sit on bench and carry a clip board instead of playing and started 12 games and working on his development. As a Brown fan he is going to rot in Cleveland like so many before him.
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Right, so let's finish the math here.
5m over 4 years. If he plays all 4 years.
1.25 million per year
-20% agent
-20% lawyers
=800 K per year
- 50% tax rate
=400 K per year.
For 4 years. He could have gotten an MBA free from ND and learned some coding skills.
300 K per year for life and he will have his health.
I don't see how this is seen as a good business decision. Unless you're his lawyer or his agent.
Kind of like you do with coach Kelly? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!
