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Kelly is crashing n burning

You were the one who recollected the conversations

Now all of a sudden, you don’t recall anything


Before he abandoned Notre Dame, I don’t recall anyone calling him a prick while he was coaching at Notre Dame
Well I don’t remember you being on this board back around 2016 -2020. Does not mean you were not posting but I do not recall your handle, big large typeface, calling out posters, etc. So I’m just saying, prick was one of the nicer things said about Kelly. Just because I don’t recall you or you recall Kelly being called out does not mean our memories are infallible
 
More Kelly excuses. He went to lsu for nil and better facilities n easier recruiting. Now lsu needs to do more. Joke
Brian Kelly just signed an outstanding 2025 recruiting class. The recruiting is indeed easier.
 
Brian Kelly just signed an outstanding 2025 recruiting class. The recruiting is indeed easier.
I would agree and the effort required is less also. But Kelly will find an excuse around recruiting, as he already has in saying that LSU needs to do much more nil. It’s always something. It’s never that he sux n kids see thru him
 
I would agree and the effort required is less also. But Kelly will find an excuse around recruiting, as he already has in saying that LSU needs to do much more nil. It’s always something. It’s never that he sux n kids see thru him
What’s he supposed to say? Nothing?

Whatever he says, it’s not enough for those who don’t like the guy.
 
What’s he supposed to say? Nothing?

Whatever he says, it’s not enough for those who don’t like the guy.
Either say it's a great class or take ownership for the failure if he thinks it is. Don't blame NIL. That's pretty much what people want from him at LSU and here previously
 
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I would agree and the effort required is less also. But Kelly will find an excuse around recruiting, as he already has in saying that LSU needs to do much more nil. It’s always something. It’s never that he sux n kids see thru him
You're sick, man. You got the sickness! You gotta seek salvation somehow. You gotta rid yourself of it. I would say "Seek Help!", but I'm not sure there is help for you. You have to find it within yourself....
 
You're sick, man. You got the sickness! You gotta seek salvation somehow. You gotta rid yourself of it. I would say "Seek Help!", but I'm not sure there is help for you. You have to find it within yourself....
You can assess I am sick. I would say you are spineless. I don’t accept bad leadership. You don’t recognize it, or you just accept it. You think Kelly’s fake Cajun accent, dancing with players, and abdicating responsibility are normal. I don’t You can overlook Kelly leaving ND like a thief under cover of darkness as acceptable. I can’t.

I can ignore Kelly I am not obsessed until he opens his mouth n says stupid shit like I will win a natty next year n take receipts

Yet, You think I am obsessed. I don’t think you are in any particular state of mind nor do I care. I would say most of us feel similar to myself so a lot of sickness going around
 
The reason Kelly is the conversation piece that he is not because he left Notre Dame.....most are glad he did. Its because he's a prick. To be clear.....the term is a moderate alternative to what the true meaning is "a despicable or contemptable man who is annoying, and tends to enjoy their annoyance". The more specific term is "A$$hole". I intend to be kind and classy....so I'll continue to call him a prick.
 
The reason Kelly is the conversation piece that he is not because he left Notre Dame.....most are glad he did. Its because he's a prick. To be clear.....the term is a moderate alternative to what the true meaning is "a despicable or contemptable man who is annoying, and tends to enjoy their annoyance". The more specific term is "A$$hole". I intend to be kind and classy....so I'll continue to call him a prick.
He's not a prick, as far as CFB coaches go, who oftentimes are rather unappealing by normal everyday standards, he's quite genial, and pleasant and anything else you'd want out of a person in civilized society. He's just not a prick at all. It's false to say such a thing. Objectively false. You are merely disturbed. And it's up to observers to make sense of this amorphous, inexhaustible, seemingly unexplainable loathing for him. Which could not be based on any typical merit or lack thereof, like being a bad coach, or being a 'scumbag' as you guys often denigrate him as. Or being some sort of naturally repellent personality. And as he was already wildly, insanely hated by at least a decent chunk of the fans years before he let, and it reached a peak, and the sickness eventually spread to the entire ND football community, right as his time was reaching its zenith, and he somewhat belatedly had brought ND back to the mountaintop, as a perennial playoff contender. And when he left for the SEC, all hell broke loose, and it was like a wild mob rampaging through the streets, or in the case the internet.

And it's still going fairly strong, as I guess one would expect at this point, and actually really hasn't let up at all, as ND fans raucously await him getting fired at LSU, and celebrate every setback he has to confront or deal with. All for nothing, as there was never any basis for any antipathy to start with. None. In fact it's so unrelenting that it has become a so-called 'meme' in the CFB world, that BK can't win the big one, and that he's somehow some bad, underachieving fraud of a coach, when it's a hard to imagine someone who's more the opposite of that than BK.

Anyway, he's not a prick.
 
He should twerk and say in a Cajun accent his arse is on fire from the spicy food before slicing one off into the swamp!

I will NEVER forget the cajun accent thing.

:D

The things grown ups do. As if he was fooling anybody. I got such a laugh confirming it for myself.
He’s like a certain politician who went to an nyc urban radio station She went on to proclaim she carries hot sauce in her Hermes pocketbook. 😣😣
 
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How about this, then. How about prove it by not sliding in any gratuitous passive aggressive little potshots. I know I'm being really fussy about it, I apologize. But BK doesn't have any problems, he's not his own worst enemy. Everything's cool with BK, other than LSU needs to figure out what they're going to do at QB after this season, if you can even call that a problem. And if he eventually gets fired at LSU then so be it. But there is no crisis at LSU, and BK is not currently in any danger of being fired. Even though there's this still-festering narrative that BK sucks, that his fortunes are always in perpetual danger of collapsing, every time LSU loses a game, or some HS prospect flips to another school. And we have ND fans to thank for that. And the internet, you can blame the internet itself.

So bottom line, BK is not the obstacle to BK. There are no obstacles he faces that any other coach doesn't also face. There's just nothing going on with BK that's bad. Other than life in the SEC is hectic. That's it. So there you go.
You are certainly entitled to your opinion as am I. I believe that's the whole idea here.
 
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That’s after he left

Show me the post while he was still coaching at Notre Dame
I think its fair to say that many posters like myself maintained some guarded verbiage while the prick was here due to mods, rules, etc. It isn't because my opinion of him changed. There's plenty to criticize, but I won't go where I am tempted to. He's now the problem of LSU's accounting department.
 
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He's not a prick, as far as CFB coaches go, who oftentimes are rather unappealing by normal everyday standards, he's quite genial, and pleasant and anything else you'd want out of a person in civilized society. He's just not a prick at all. It's false to say such a thing. Objectively false. You are merely disturbed. And it's up to observers to make sense of this amorphous, inexhaustible, seemingly unexplainable loathing for him. Which could not be based on any typical merit or lack thereof, like being a bad coach, or being a 'scumbag' as you guys often denigrate him as. Or being some sort of naturally repellent personality. And as he was already wildly, insanely hated by at least a decent chunk of the fans years before he let, and it reached a peak, and the sickness eventually spread to the entire ND football community, right as his time was reaching its zenith, and he somewhat belatedly had brought ND back to the mountaintop, as a perennial playoff contender. And when he left for the SEC, all hell broke loose, and it was like a wild mob rampaging through the streets, or in the case the internet.

And it's still going fairly strong, as I guess one would expect at this point, and actually really hasn't let up at all, as ND fans raucously await him getting fired at LSU, and celebrate every setback he has to confront or deal with. All for nothing, as there was never any basis for any antipathy to start with. None. In fact it's so unrelenting that it has become a so-called 'meme' in the CFB world, that BK can't win the big one, and that he's somehow some bad, underachieving fraud of a coach, when it's a hard to imagine someone who's more the opposite of that than BK.

Anyway, he's not a prick.
He is to many, just not you. Why is that hard for you to accept ? He has never come across as a likeable human being. Why in such a defense mode ? I believe he's universally considered a good, successful coach by folks in the know. I don't believe he's personally well liked by those same folks. That's my experience in conversations.
 
He is to many, just not you. Why is that hard for you to accept ? He has never come across as a likeable human being. Why in such a defense mode ? I believe he's universally considered a good, successful coach by folks in the know. I don't believe he's personally well liked by those same folks. That's my experience in conversation
Kelly was very adamant about why he took the LSU job...bragging about all the resources and commitment to the program that LSU provided....basically that it was light years ahead of ND...and how, now, finally, he can compete for titles. Now, this week...he's whining and belly aching about how LSU needs more NIL money to be able to compete for championships. He's taking heat for decommits, and he's blaming it on the NIL donors. The problem is either the school (ND) or the donors (LSU)....it's never Kelly himself.
 
He is to many, just not you. Why is that hard for you to accept ? He has never come across as a likeable human being. Why in such a defense mode ? I believe he's universally considered a good, successful coach by folks in the know. I don't believe he's personally well liked by those same folks. That's my experience in conversations.
He's not a prick, and that is not a legitimate 'opinion'. He is reviled and hated by ND fans to a degree that is totally pathological. Just without any question. To the point if you were a Harvard sociologist or psychologist you could do a case study on it. And how did this happen, and what could have possibly led to this state of affairs? He does not behave in a way personally, or perform professionally that would naturally engender such open contempt and loathing, and with such intensity. Even the media, certainly the ND beat media, and even the national CFB media to a lesser extent, have become caught up in it. And either mock and denigrate him themselves, or at least tread cautiously on anything BK related, lest they run afoul of the mob. And they embrace the false, hate-fueled narratives that have become attached to BK, which eventually become de facto received wisdom. And this is a first-ballot CFB HOF coach, and ND's all-time winning coach being treated this way.

So it is indeed a 'thing'. Pathological BK hating is a thing. It's not just fickle ND fans with their humble personal opinions. There's obviously more to it than that. Quite frankly I'm not interested in your assurances that people in the know may respect him, but do dislike him. If it's even true, it would make me think less of them, and not BK.
 
He's not a prick, and that is not a legitimate 'opinion'. He is reviled and hated by ND fans to a degree that is totally pathological. Just without any question. To the point if you were a Harvard sociologist or psychologist you could do a case study on it. And how did this happen, and what could have possibly led to this state of affairs? He does not behave in a way personally, or perform professionally that would naturally engender such open contempt and loathing, and with such intensity. Even the media, certainly the ND beat media, and even the national CFB media to a lesser extent, have become caught up in it. And either mock and denigrate him themselves, or at least tread cautiously on anything BK related, lest they run afoul of the mob. And they embrace the false, hate-fueled narratives that have become attached to BK, which eventually become de facto received wisdom. And this is a first-ballot CFB HOF coach, and ND's all-time winning coach being treated this way.

So it is indeed a 'thing'. Pathological BK hating is a thing. It's not just fickle ND fans with their humble personal opinions. There's obviously more to it than that.
Are you on his payroll ? Your water carrying here seems quite personal. A lot of people in his business don't care for him personally. End of story. I'm guessing currently a lot of LSU fans don't either.
 
My usual conclusion on BK. Solid coach. Great program manager. Questionable recruiter. Questionable developer of players. Not inspiring. Decent Xs and Os, although suspect game calling and game preparation in big games.

I expected him to do better at LSU. But NIL and transfers have weakened the stronger teams relative to the next tier. This and his weaknesses produce what we see. He still cannot win the bigger games. He still has issues inspiring his team...gotta say it again, something Marcus Freeman excels at.

I continue to wish BK well. He got ND back to respectability. A foundation for Marcus Freeman.

I actually feel bad for BK. I also see desperation in his BRIEF comment about the NC next year. Until proven differently, he can't win the big one.
I agree 100%. I was wrong on BK. I thought by going to LSU, he would compete for a Natty. Can’t blame the academics or facilities on the school.
 
Are you on his payroll ? Your water carrying here seems quite personal. A lot of people in his business don't care for him personally. End of story. I'm guessing currently a lot of LSU fans don't either.
I think I've made my position very clear, pretty much ad nauseam. I liked BK a lot, I was very fond of him. But that's irrelevant, I only speak out like I do because this has turned into an outright social contagion. Now I know that's beyond your pay grade to really comprehend or deal with something like that. That the normal testosterone fueled, thuggish, meat headed CFB fan existence has mutated into something bigger and uglier than that, but that's what's happened here. Your anecdotal insistence that everybody who deals with BK hates or dislikes him is bullshit. And it's ND, precious holier than thou ND that has generated and dumped all this bile into the culture.
 
That's a ridiculous question. You think ai can remember people's names on a message board and what year that they said it. Just ridiculous
It's not even that he thinks you can remember a post from five years ago — it's that he demands that you remember it.
 
It's not even that he thinks you can remember a post from five years ago — it's that he demands that you remember it.
If you can’t substantiate your allegation, you shouldn’t make it in the first place !

That’s called accountability

That prevents morons from fabricating things for their own agenda,, it prevents people from posting speculation, as fact

Have someone with a brain explain that to you
 
No, you didn’t, you merely stated that you seemed to recall that someone said it, but you couldn’t provide any concrete evidence
I pulled up 4 old threads and put your name on there of when Kelly was called a prick. I made it very easy for you so there wouldn't be any confusion. And you still can't admit it 🤣
 
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If you can’t substantiate your allegation, you shouldn’t make it in the first place !

That’s called accountability

That prevents morons from fabricating things for their own agenda,, it prevents people from posting speculation, as fact

Have someone with a brain explain that to you
I substantiated it. That's what is so funny. 4 old threads right on the front page here for ya
 
No, you didn’t, you merely stated that you seemed to recall that someone said it, but you couldn’t provide any concrete evidence
I can't say with absolute certainty that I called Kelly a prick while he was the head coach at ND. I can say that I think I did....and more importantly, that I hope I did. Does that help?
 
I can't say with absolute certainty that I called Kelly a prick while he was the head coach at ND. I can say that I think I did....and more importantly, that I hope I did. Does that help?
I soured on Kelly when he was flirting with the Eagles and Notre Dame was going to play Alabama for the national championship

I further soured on him when he abandoned Manti Teo.
Fortunately, Jack Swarbrick was highly supportive of Manti

I may have been critical of him as a coach, but I never personalized it ………… until ……… his departure from Notre Dame fiasco

But we should’ve known better because that’s what he did at Cincinnati

I can’t blame him for coming to Notre Dame

And I can’t blame him for going to LSU, except in the way he did it
 
And you believe that he recalled the Kizer thread from 8 years ago ?
I don’t give a hoot what he recalled. There were plenty of posters who hated Kelly when he was at ND, and I recall such since I argued with many of them.
 
I think I've made my position very clear, pretty much ad nauseam. I liked BK a lot, I was very fond of him. But that's irrelevant, I only speak out like I do because this has turned into an outright social contagion. Now I know that's beyond your pay grade to really comprehend or deal with something like that. That the normal testosterone fueled, thuggish, meat headed CFB fan existence has mutated into something bigger and uglier than that, but that's what's happened here. Your anecdotal insistence that everybody who deals with BK hates or dislikes him is bullshit. And it's ND, precious holier than thou ND that has generated and dumped all this bile into the culture.
Who said everybody ? If you think he's a congenial, well liked individual amongst his peers so be it. I believe you're in the minority. I'm in the college football business as a NIL consultant. I talk to lots of folks. He is much more respected for his coaching abilities than he is for his personality.
 
More Kelly excuses. He went to lsu for nil and better facilities n easier recruiting. Now lsu needs to do more. Joke
Read where he was really lamenting the state of college football, where players change schools just for more money via better NIL deals, etc…. It was pretty ironic in context of how and why he left ND.
 
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I don’t give a hoot what he recalled. There were plenty of posters who hated Kelly when he was at ND, and I recall such since I argued with many of them.
If you’re a Notre Dame fan and especially if you’re in Notre Dame graduate, there’s an enormous difference between disliking and hating Kelly and calling the active coach at Notre Dame a “prick”.

That’s taking it to another level

For better or for worse, he’s the coach leading your team and transitioning your criticism from his on the field performance to him personally is beyond extreme, especially when you’ve had no personal interaction with him
 
If you’re a Notre Dame fan and especially if you’re in Notre Dame graduate, there’s an enormous difference between disliking and hating Kelly and calling the active coach at Notre Dame a “prick”.

That’s taking it to another level

For better or for worse, he’s the coach leading your team and transitioning your criticism from his on the field performance to him personally is beyond extreme, especially when you’ve had no personal interaction with him
Maybe some people are just loose with their words.

I can tell the difference between someone disliking Kelly for his personality versus his performance….and converse/argue appropriately.

And maybe some of those posters have met or interacted with Kelly. I was in his presence at least two dozen times during his ND tenure and I saw all kinds of interactions. I always calibrated my observations with his job as a coach and ND figurehead. But whatever you believe, there is a contingent that thinks he is a prick
 
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