Jerry Tillery - Will not play - Violation of Team Rules
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I was so excited about this game today, now not so much. Offense will need to score 80 just to keep it close. EE will have 300 yards rushing by the end of the 3rd quarter.
This is unheard of so close to the game time from a legitimate top 10 team. What is going on in this program? I can't even watch this game now. I', going to record it but I can't go through this again.
Right, Kelly is disciplining his players and allowing them to be injured so he has excuses?
cgvr, you are such a POS!
Seems like the practices leading up to game day have produced a number of injuries last few seasons. Tillery? Again, I look at this stuff as less enforcing discipline but more of an example of a team that lacks discipline. No excuses for poor behavior. Lack of focus there.
I do find it ironic the team preaches this 'culture beats scheme' thing all year and in the most important week of the year we are sending key guys home. feels like hot air especially when good kids are the ones messing up, by all accounts max and Jerry are good students and like ND.
The hotel pillows were too hard, the practice field was too hot, we have guys injured, we didn't have a campfire singalong, we didn't have smores, coach didn't ride his horsey, guys flipped kelly the bird and broke his curfew, Golson flipped kelly the bird and left, kelly tried to fight Grimes and has been sedated since....
Thank God for Sanford, Lyght, Denson....
In that case most teams lack discipline.
How about OSU? Their starting tailback runs his mouth about the coaching staff to the press after a loss, then gets involved in an accident with a suspended license (which he didn't know about). The backup QB runs his mouth to the press about not starting and leaving the program early to go to the NFL.
TCU has a QB that gets in a bar fight three nights before their bowl game and punches a cop.
These are are just a couple of examples of young guys that make poor choices. And there is a lot that happens that we never hear about because it's swept under the rug and kept in-house.
Need I go on about other teams?
Give that man a Kewpie doll. How about the 4 levels of competence that was kelly's earlier mainstay?
We're somewhere between "unconscious incompetence" and "conscious competence".
Not many positions/units in kelly's tenure have achieved unconscious competence....
The '12 D got there....that's about it....
Culture beats scheme as he's trying to ring Grimes neck.... way to go coach!
Prepping for Bowls in cities with all the excitement in the air presents a challenge for young guys to block out the noise and stay focused. Two of our guys failed and hurt the team. Kelly is doing exactly what he should do, and the 83 guys who followed the rules appreciate this. Hope this brings even a greater bond and focus to today's game and a memorable upset that will pay dividends next year.
joepa is running around Satan's lair with 409 D1 wins.
Factoid: kelly has 108 D1 wins. Parse it all you like.
It won't get him an NFL whiff? Why is that you might ask?
Well, his biggest D1 post season victory is the Music City bowl.
He has a huge chance to change that today. I hope he is as sharp as ever.....
It'll take everything we've got and it's doable if we play up to our potential.
That doesn't happen very consistently with kelly at the helm...
http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/coaches/brian-kelly-2.html
It's disappointing that Redfield and Tillery both broke team rules and will miss this huge game. But to blame Kelly is ridiculous. I have to hand it to Kelly that he's sticking by his rules, despite how it may hurt our team's performance today. But that's on these two players. Hopefully they'll both learn their lessons from this.
Right thing for Kelly to do! It may hurt some today but in the long run it helps the program. Credibility with the current team and recruits down the road is critical "You can't spend your integrity in nickels and dimes"! Quote from an old Jarhead officer I knew.
I have to think it has to do with the new turf and the traction combined with technology of the shoes that are creating stresses we did not see on grass or on older artificial surfaces.[Stayed at a Holiday Inn express once, smile]
... and it will impact recruiting. Teams will use this when recruiting against ND.. telling the kid that unless he is perfect he'll get suspended from school, suspended for a game or 2.
Exactly, we are ND, we need and expect RKG's. All others can go elsewhere. The rules are the rules and they are for everyone.
I didn't blame kelly.
They're his rules. The players didn't follow them. They disrespected him.
No worries. Many folks can't handle the facts surrounding our resident tool bag coach.
Did you like how he laid his terms for departing ND for the NFL less than 48 hours ago? He has zero common sense.
As part of the Bowl game lead up, to what I believe is the second most important game of his tenure, he throws out what it would take him to leave ND.
"There would be one exception, Kelly said: Complete control.
He has it in South Bend, Ind., where he's the voice of every aspect of the program.
It's an opportunity rarely afforded to NFL coaches.
"How would you give up control of all the things you have at Notre Dame to do that, unless they gave you full autonomy and control of an organization?" Kelly asked. "I don't think that's happening any time soon for Brian Kelly."
The man is a mental midget on top of being a mercenary coach....
kelly's the biggest "bag of tools in the program".
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how do you think this might impact the recruiting targets and the commitments? (in recruiting everything has an effective to some degree)
No need H'ville. I got your point. I don't care about other teams, their issues or lack of same. Only ND's. Thanks
They disrespected themselves. They're the ones who missed the game and let down their teammates.
Every team has rules. Jonas Gray overslept and missed a practice and his career was never the same in New England.
And Showtime put this crap on TV - they should have did the program on Bama or OSU so we could see how a real elite program is run.
