Jerry Sandusky State

[BGI User 756]

The former Attorney General of the United States, after an exhaustive investigation, concluded just the opposite, that JP did NOT cover up the scandal.

How’s that for “more reading”

What’s your response to that ?

“Not covering up” does not excuse him from doing nothing at the time he was informed by his asst coach to what he witnessed. As a comparison, would be like you ignoring when an employee in your insurance office said he saw another employee watching child porn.


Your reading clearly isn’t helping your reasoning or comprehension. Guess you are part of that moron group you keep referring

 

[BGI User 756]

So you would report an unsubstantiated third party allegation to the police ?

Bullshit, you wouldn’t make that quantum leap and risk the potential negative consequences.

You and the others benefit from 20-20 hindsight, not real time circumstances!

JP reported it to his superior.

Tell us exactly how you would report it to the police

Why are you repeating questions?

The potential negative consequences for me filing a report with the police are extremely low. As I said before (might want to go back and read again), there are no allegations. You are simply sharing with an agency that is better prepared to decide how to approach the situation.

20-20? Paterno demonstrated that he had concerns with Jerry, and some of those have been posted here already. Go back and read again Pat

 

[BGI User 756]

I’m not looking to win a popularity contest.

That you can’t withstand vigorous debate and intelligent challenges to your absurd positions speaks volumes to your intellectual limitations.

I never claimed to be a “somebody”, I merely state facts.

I can’t help it if you’re dumb or jealous or both.

I‘m not here to please you or anyone else.

If you can’t stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen !

The irony of this post is thick

 

[Patrirish]

“Not covering up” does not excuse him from doing nothing at the time he was informed by his asst coach to what he witnessed. As a comparison, would be like you ignoring when an employee in your insurance office said he saw another employee watching child porn.


Your reading clearly isn’t helping your reasoning or comprehension. Guess you are part of that moron group you keep referring

He didn’t do “nothing” as you erroneously stated, he followed PSU protocol and reported it to his superior.

As to your question, since reporting can’t go any higher than me, as I am the ultimate authority, I would call my labor attorney for advice and counsel.

 

[sjb75]

He didn’t do “nothing” as you erroneously stated, he followed PSU protocol and reported it to his superior.

As to your question, since reporting can’t go any higher than me, as I am the ultimate authority, I would call my labor attorney for advice and counsel.

Days with this shit.

Go play golf.

 

[Patrirish]

Stop with your straw man arguments and with all the what-ifs. I’ll say the same thing I already said. Joe should have done more. And at the many times he was told, or heard, or was asked. He was never shy about exerting his influence over any issue he seemed worthy. I listed 4 that made it into the news media.

Joe chose not to do anything meaningful beyond reporting to Curley (though he did take personal actions to limit Sandusky’s access, and he did have Jerry suddenly resign in 1999). Clearly Joe was trying to bury the story rather than fully investigate it. I don’t get confused about simple right/wrong/appropriate for this situation involving kids.

And lastly, you know Jack shit about me and other posters, so stop making un-informed statements about them, especially when you continue to specifically berate others about such

Other issues and JP’s influence on other matters are totally irrelevant to the case at hand.

Reporting it to his superior was meaningful and in accordance with PSU protocol.

Richard Thornburgh, the former Attorney General of the United States, contradicted your statement ! So who had more facts at their disposal, you or Richard Thornburgh.

I know all I need to know about you !

Ouch !

What uninformed statements did I make ?

 

[Patrirish]

Days with this shit.

Go play golf.

Then stop reading and posting !

 

[sjb75]

Then stop reading and posting !

Take your own advice.

Go play golf.

 

[Patrirish]

Take your own advice.

Go play golf.

I’m not the one whining like a little bitch …… YOU ARE !

 

[BGI User 756]

He didn’t do “nothing” as you erroneously stated, he followed PSU protocol and reported it to his superior.

As to your question, since reporting can’t go any higher than me, as I am the ultimate authority, I would call my labor attorney for advice and counsel.

Other issues and JP’s influence on other matters are totally irrelevant to the case at hand.

Reporting it to his superior was meaningful and in accordance with PSU protocol.

Richard Thornburgh, the former Attorney General of the United States, contradicted your statement ! So who had more facts at their disposal, you or Richard Thornburgh.

I know all I need to know about you !

Ouch !

What uninformed statements did I make ?

None of my statements were contradicted at all. You do hallucinate a bit.

He should have done more in his position. Simple as that. His influence is absolutely relevant, what world are you living in? His reporting was so meaningful that Sandusky continued to assault boys for 10 years after his sudden resignation, until 2009. It is one of the most despicable cover-ups in your sorry life.

You repeating that he reported it to Curley over and over doesn't make your flawed argument any stronger. None have disputed that he did such. All except you have agreed it was not nearly enough, and was for the benefit of the program. That sir, is the essence of a coward.

The irony of you telling posters that 'you know them', while stating in the next breath that no one knows you...is quite entertaining. I know a few in your circle and they guffaw at these posts though.

 

[Patrirish]

None of my statements were contradicted at all. You do hallucinate a bit.

He should have done more in his position. Simple as that. His influence is absolutely relevant, what world are you living in? His reporting was so meaningful that Sandusky continued to assault boys for 10 years after his sudden resignation, until 2009. It is one of the most despicable cover-ups in your sorry life.

You repeating that he reported it to Curley over and over doesn't make your flawed argument any stronger. None have disputed that he did such. All except you have agreed it was not nearly enough, and was for the benefit of the program. That sir, is the essence of a coward.

The irony of you telling posters that 'you know them', while stating in the next breath that no one knows you...is quite entertaining. I know a few in your circle and they guffaw at these posts though.

I repeat, what uninformed statements did I make ?
In addition to reporting the incident to his superior, what else should he have done ?
What if his superior said, “I spoke to my superiors and the University will take it from here, you don’t need to get involved any further” ?
Thornburgh’s statement directly contradicts you statement !

Were you privy to all of the conversations between JP and representatives and employees of PSU ?

Do you have more information at your disposal than Richard Thornburgh ?

If you knew how to read, in my prior emails I indicated that JP wasn’t without culpability, the degree of which has yet to have been established by you or anyone else offering their opinion.

You can lie all you want, it doesn’t change the facts !

 

[sjb75]

I’m not the one whining like a little bitch …… YOU ARE !

You're disingenuous. You aren't interested in other's opinions on anything, all you do is discount anything anyone says, and frankly, i am surprised 756 gives you the time of day given your bullshit.

 

[BGI User 1596]

You're disingenuous. You aren't interested in other's opinions on anything, all you do is discount anything anyone says, and frankly, i am surprised 756 gives you the time of day given your bullshit.

Ouch!

 

[Patrirish]

You're disingenuous. You aren't interested in other's opinions on anything, all you do is discount anything anyone says, and frankly, i am surprised 756 gives you the time of day given your bullshit.

You couldn’t be more wrong !

Unlike you I don’t automatically accept other opinions as being factual.

I believe that when one offers an opinion they should be able to “make their case” and be able withstand any challenge to that opinion.

it’s called debate and discourse.

If you don’t possess the intellectual capital or if you can’t withstand the heat, stay out of the kitchen !

Ouch !

 

[BGI User 756]

I repeat, what uninformed statements did I make ?
In addition to reporting the incident to his superior, what else should he have done ?
What if his superior said, “I spoke to my superiors and the University will take it from here, you don’t need to get involved any further” ?
Thornburgh’s statement directly contradicts you statement !

Were you privy to all of the conversations between JP and representatives and employees of PSU ?

Do you have more information at your disposal than Richard Thornburgh ?

If you knew how to read, in my prior emails I indicated that JP wasn’t without culpability, the degree of which has yet to have been established by you or anyone else offering their opinion.

You can lie all you want, it doesn’t change the facts !

Please show us where you were privy to those same conversations. Start there, don’t deflect or change the narrative

 

[Patrirish]

Please show us where you were privy to those same conversations. Start there, don’t deflect or change the narrative

You continue to refuse to answer my question, “what uninformed statements did I make ?”

Answer the question !

 

[Chitown11]

Patty the curmudgeon, never happy unless he yells( bold print) and argues. Everytime this clown yaps reminds me of Clint Eastwood on Grand Torino sitting on his porch drinking beer, miserable to the ****ing world. Since you are old, may I suggest you eat some edibles, maybe this will calm you down a bit and make your mind happy

 

[Irish_inPSU]

I have been quietly reading this post without commenting on it. I went to school there and am now working there for the last 25 years. I lived/worked through the time period this whole scandal took place. I also have been through the fall out, and all of the changes made inside the university to ensure something like this doesn't happen again.

For the record, I am not a Penn State football fan, never have been. I have been an ND fan since I was a little kid because of the neighbors I grew up next to being big time ND fans and they sucked me in (during the good old days with Holtz!).

The fact that there are people, which I'm assuming are full grown adults, still calling a university the derogatory terms being used in this post, is beyond ridiculous and quite frankly sickening. Its actually childish to be honest.
What took place back then and the fallout we all learned as the investigation progressed was beyond horrifying. I for one believed Paterno could have sounded the alarm much more loudly than he did. Here in central PA, he was a god and one of the most powerful and influential people on that campus. He did go through the proper channels however, but leadership above him, failed. Even still, I believe he could have and should have used his clout to raise hell on the issue.

The kids and family this affected was and still is heart wrenching to think about. I couldn't imagine and like many fathers, Id have burned the place down if I learned my child had done to him what some of these kids went through.

But lets get a grip on reality here. All of the actors involved in this scandal are either in jail or dead. The university has went above and beyond to put every mechanism in place possible to ensure this doesnt' happen again and that there are more robust reporting systems in place to handle such allegations in the future. None of which, even at the state level, existed at the time this all took place. It has certainly opened the eyes of just not PSU, but many universities, that by the way, reached out to and worked with PSU to develop their own systems and reporting structure for such horrific crimes.

But to continue to link a university and the people who had zero to do with it is stupid, childish and dangerous. Thank goodness not all people are so narrow minded or lunk headed. Like someone else said, take a look at the catholic preists in the news constantly for child abuse. Should we link the entire catholic church to this or just hang the offenders?

 

[NDblitz]

You're disingenuous. You aren't interested in other's opinions on anything, all you do is discount anything anyone says, and frankly, i am surprised 756 gives you the time of day given your bullshit.

sounds familiar. I can see how you recognize this.

 

[Golson5]

I have been quietly reading this post without commenting on it. I went to school there and am now working there for the last 25 years. I lived/worked through the time period this whole scandal took place. I also have been through the fall out, and all of the changes made inside the university to ensure something like this doesn't happen again.

For the record, I am not a Penn State football fan, never have been. I have been an ND fan since I was a little kid because of the neighbors I grew up next to being big time ND fans and they sucked me in (during the good old days with Holtz!).

The fact that there are people, which I'm assuming are full grown adults, still calling a university the derogatory terms being used in this post, is beyond ridiculous and quite frankly sickening. Its actually childish to be honest.
What took place back then and the fallout we all learned as the investigation progressed was beyond horrifying. I for one believed Paterno could have sounded the alarm much more loudly than he did. Here in central PA, he was a god and one of the most powerful and influential people on that campus. He did go through the proper channels however, but leadership above him, failed. Even still, I believe he could have and should have used his clout to raise hell on the issue.

The kids and family this affected was and still is heart wrenching to think about. I couldn't imagine and like many fathers, Id have burned the place down if I learned my child had done to him what some of these kids went through.

But lets get a grip on reality here. All of the actors involved in this scandal are either in jail or dead. The university has went above and beyond to put every mechanism in place possible to ensure this doesnt' happen again and that there are more robust reporting systems in place to handle such allegations in the future. None of which, even at the state level, existed at the time this all took place. It has certainly opened the eyes of just not PSU, but many universities, that by the way, reached out to and worked with PSU to develop their own systems and reporting structure for such horrific crimes.

But to continue to link a university and the people who had zero to do with it is stupid, childish and dangerous. Thank goodness not all people are so narrow minded or lunk headed. Like someone else said, take a look at the catholic preists in the news constantly for child abuse. Should we link the entire catholic church to this or just hang the offenders?

Ped State... how do you like that?

 

[Patrirish]

I have been quietly reading this post without commenting on it. I went to school there and am now working there for the last 25 years. I lived/worked through the time period this whole scandal took place. I also have been through the fall out, and all of the changes made inside the university to ensure something like this doesn't happen again.

For the record, I am not a Penn State football fan, never have been. I have been an ND fan since I was a little kid because of the neighbors I grew up next to being big time ND fans and they sucked me in (during the good old days with Holtz!).

The fact that there are people, which I'm assuming are full grown adults, still calling a university the derogatory terms being used in this post, is beyond ridiculous and quite frankly sickening. Its actually childish to be honest.
What took place back then and the fallout we all learned as the investigation progressed was beyond horrifying. I for one believed Paterno could have sounded the alarm much more loudly than he did. Here in central PA, he was a god and one of the most powerful and influential people on that campus. He did go through the proper channels however, but leadership above him, failed. Even still, I believe he could have and should have used his clout to raise hell on the issue.

The kids and family this affected was and still is heart wrenching to think about. I couldn't imagine and like many fathers, Id have burned the place down if I learned my child had done to him what some of these kids went through.

But lets get a grip on reality here. All of the actors involved in this scandal are either in jail or dead. The university has went above and beyond to put every mechanism in place possible to ensure this doesnt' happen again and that there are more robust reporting systems in place to handle such allegations in the future. None of which, even at the state level, existed at the time this all took place. It has certainly opened the eyes of just not PSU, but many universities, that by the way, reached out to and worked with PSU to develop their own systems and reporting structure for such horrific crimes.

But to continue to link a university and the people who had zero to do with it is stupid, childish and dangerous. Thank goodness not all people are so narrow minded or lunk headed. Like someone else said, take a look at the catholic preists in the news constantly for child abuse. Should we link the entire catholic church to this or just hang the offenders?

That was the point I was trying to make.

The title of this thread is deplorable, but some morons want to defend it.

The current administration, coaches and players had nothing to do with that incident !

 

[Drinking The Green Koolaid]

I have been quietly reading this post without commenting on it. I went to school there and am now working there for the last 25 years. I lived/worked through the time period this whole scandal took place. I also have been through the fall out, and all of the changes made inside the university to ensure something like this doesn't happen again.

For the record, I am not a Penn State football fan, never have been. I have been an ND fan since I was a little kid because of the neighbors I grew up next to being big time ND fans and they sucked me in (during the good old days with Holtz!).

The fact that there are people, which I'm assuming are full grown adults, still calling a university the derogatory terms being used in this post, is beyond ridiculous and quite frankly sickening. Its actually childish to be honest.
What took place back then and the fallout we all learned as the investigation progressed was beyond horrifying. I for one believed Paterno could have sounded the alarm much more loudly than he did. Here in central PA, he was a god and one of the most powerful and influential people on that campus. He did go through the proper channels however, but leadership above him, failed. Even still, I believe he could have and should have used his clout to raise hell on the issue.

The kids and family this affected was and still is heart wrenching to think about. I couldn't imagine and like many fathers, Id have burned the place down if I learned my child had done to him what some of these kids went through.

But lets get a grip on reality here. All of the actors involved in this scandal are either in jail or dead. The university has went above and beyond to put every mechanism in place possible to ensure this doesnt' happen again and that there are more robust reporting systems in place to handle such allegations in the future. None of which, even at the state level, existed at the time this all took place. It has certainly opened the eyes of just not PSU, but many universities, that by the way, reached out to and worked with PSU to develop their own systems and reporting structure for such horrific crimes.

But to continue to link a university and the people who had zero to do with it is stupid, childish and dangerous. Thank goodness not all people are so narrow minded or lunk headed. Like someone else said, take a look at the catholic preists in the news constantly for child abuse. Should we link the entire catholic church to this or just hang the offenders?

I believe Paterno's actions--or more precisely, his inactions--were shameful, if not despicable. He failed those boys, and he failed his university, a place he unquestionably loved. The scandal will forever taint his name and legacy.

But I agree with you that some of the name calling here is simply childish. Unfortunately, that happens too often here, but is hardly surprising with the anonymity provided by a message board. At the end of the day, that behavior reflects on those posters, not PSU. I am glad to hear that PSU has enacted protocols to make sure this never happens again. That may be a case of acting after the horse is already out of the barn, but sometimes life's lessons are learned with tears and blood.

 

[christophero]

Patty the curmudgeon, never happy unless he yells( bold print) and argues. Everytime this clown yaps reminds me of Clint Eastwood on Grand Torino sitting on his porch drinking beer, miserable to the ****ing world. Since you are old, may I suggest you eat some edibles, maybe this will calm you down a bit and make your mind happy

For all his faults, Clint's character could be funny and charming at times.

 

[sjb75]

That was the point I was trying to make.

The title of this thread is deplorable, but some morons want to defend it.

The current administration, coaches and players had nothing to do with that incident !

If you consider what happened to those young boys on that university's watch, it's deserved.

 

[Tyler James]

Hey @Patrirish, I'd like to go a week without someone reporting you for being obnoxious and toxic. You're heading for a board break.