It is required by law when it involves a minor. Look up Mandatory Reporting. You're dead wrong on this, but you do you.
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SMU has never recovered from something that is legal now. Raping kids illegal in 85 & still in 2023 Penn St got off easy
Well, I have to sit through interviews with children and forensic interviewers and listen to some of the horribly evil things. I have to maintain my professionalism to ensure prosecution/conviction but death should be mandatory for lives these monsters have destroyed.
Read the report. Joe Paterno took JS’s keys away from him. ( access to locker room). If you were told a kid was being raped in the locker rooms & that’s your response. No more locker room? How about Sanduskys wive. Kids in the basement & she thinks that’s normal?
I went to Beaver stadium as a kid. Those fans were vicious towards me & my brother. I’ll never forget that. Not shocked by the repulsive behavior over in State college.
I’ve been advocating for that for decades !
At one time independent crews officiated home games
Why ND doesn’t return to that arrangement is beyond me
Paterno was one of the most powerful men in the state, so hiding behind the "I told my boss and then did nothing else" excuse is lame at best. He put the football program ahead of kids, which is inexcusable.
Since you’re experiencing in these matters do you feel that some offenders are mentally ill, or predisposed like alcoholics ?
That’s what makes me pause at the death penalty
You’re operating under the assumption that Paterno had full and complete knowledge of all of Sandusky’s actions and that wasn’t the case
Both, I’ll say porn addiction is a common problem with many Pedos, they start in regular pornography and over time want more explicit imagery.
Some are just sociopaths and in all honesty, I see so many recidivist it’s insane. I’d bet less than 5% are actually rehabilitated. I would send them all to an island to live after castrating them, and repeat offenders should be executed.
Agree about the recidivism, that’s why I favor castration.
I also think that you have to be very, very careful about classifying sex offenders.
I worry about the college student who gets accused by an ex-girlfriend of sexually assaulting her when the sex was consensual and the accusation was made because he left her in favor of another girl. I also worry because many colleges eliminated the accused’s right of Due Process.
It’s the same problem I have when accusations are made against JFK, LBJ, FDR,or any decedent who isn’t here to defend themselves.
It’s doubtful that we’ll ever know the complete stories.
Read the report. All there in Paterno’s words. He took Sanduskys locker room keys away.
You don’t know what he was instructed or prohibited from doing by his superiors.
Paterno died in January of 2012, before the Thornburgh investigation was concluded
What are you talking about? In the report Joe Paterno says he took JS’s keys to the locker room. Btw I’m not just blaming Paterno. Lotta educators turned their backs on those kids.
Academia is interesting.
PSU was guilty of an institutional cover up and Duke was guilty of an illegal institutional prosecution/persecution.
But we’ve gotten far afield from the fact that the title of this thread is despicable and classless
The current PSU administration, coaches and players had nothing to do with events occurring a dozen or more years ago
Because if I was told to stand down I would say no. This is a most egregious offense. And it needs to be documented by police. Disregarding a felony is not in anyone’s job description
Additionally, Paterno knew about Gerry’s kids. He didn’t have to see it. He was told. That’s why paterno’s rep took such a hit. He knew. It was documented he knew and he allowed Jerry’s kids telethon to continue
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HE knew things were bad and refused to take any real action
As has been mentioned his influence in PA was HUGE.
HE was a coward in the end
Live with it
Not the same. Not at all
The names you cite all lived in a time of the media covering up n being complicit so any bad behaviour only surfaced long after they were dead. So yes, they can’t defend themselves. But the facts are obvious. In the case of the Kennedy - I’ll bet they are glad they don’t have to face todays level of scrutiny n answer for things like Maralyn’s death.
Then paterno - the Ped thing happened while he was alive n he had the opportunity to clear his name. He could not. He was complicit. It’s in reports he’s a scumbag like his Ped coach
His old school upbringing over rode the sensibilities of the new era he was in. He was anachronism and did not step up n do the right thing He’s a little tiny man both in physical size and moral measurement
You continue to make the same mistake ….. again and again
Contemporaneously, it was third party hearsay.
You’re viewing the incident with the benefit of 20-20 hindsight.
At the time JP had the allegation relayed to him, none of the facts had been discovered and disclosed. The incident hadn’t been investigated and adjudicated.
Your statement that he disregarded a felony is beyond ignorant.
At the time the incident was relayed to him it was an allegation, which he in turn reported to his superior.
Question for you: Is every allegation a felony ?
Did the Duke rape case teach you nothing ?
At some point there needs to be a minimum IQ test for posting
Not true, since he never witnessed an incident, the only thing he knew was that a third party had relayed an incident to him, and as a result he reported what was relayed to him to his superior.
Question, what would you have done at that moment, in a vacuum of information, with the exception of the conversation with the assistant ?
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Innocent need to be protected. Those boys were innocent. And paterno deserved innocence until proven guilty
He was proven guilty of knowing and not acting properly not based on hearsay like Duke.
I’m gonna morph into patirish mode now
Do they let any moron post on this board? I mean a maggot could understand this. You keep making the same mistakes - posting
Ugh, why do we have to put up with such morons. 🥱
What are you talking about ?
How did he know prior to an assistant talking to him ?
That’s absolutely not true.
JP Immediately reported what he had been told to his superior, the AD
Get your facts right before you post
It was hearsay, JP had never witnessed any incidents and the allegation came to him via an assistant
Get your facts right moron !
Where is the IQ test when you need it.
So now, according to you, JFK was involved in MM’s death.
How could he clear his name when he was dead ?
Exactly what reports are you referring to.
Be precisely specific !
Everyone is a moron. I’ll join all my fellow posters as being in your moron club. But the only person with dyslexia and zero reading comprehension is you
It’s good to see the name caller and smarter than thou pat Irish brought to his knees n exposed as a paterno apologist and misconstrued facts. No where to hide. Exposed. “Paterno failed to report the abuse to police or child welfare agencies”. And paterno continued to protect n conceal Sandusky Ped state is a joke of an institution they continue to honor that scumbag
Penn State administrators hid the crimes in order to protect the institution’s reputation. However, the victims would eventually come forward and Sandusky was convicted on 52 counts of child molestation. Joe Paterno, Graham Spanier and other university officials who failed to report the abuse to police or state child welfare agencies were ousted. Former FBI director Louis Freeh investigated the matter and concluded that Paterno “concealed Sandusky’s activities from the Board of Trustees, the University community and authorities.”
If I heard aboy had been abused I take action. A lot more than your deity did.
I would have PERSONALLY investigated it. PERSONALLY.
AND I AM NOT GOING TO HIDE BEHIND the worry about lawsuits.
You would of course
you would use any excuse at all to do nothing
I think everyone on this board can agree that Patty is insufferable to talk with
I really wish he would learn to multiquote, so we don't have to read post after post of him calling everyone a moron.
This. Pedo overrated because of their recruited talent. Franklin is average at best
You’re really beyond stupid.
How could he report an incident that he never witnessed, an incident that was strictly hearsay, relayed to him by a third party, to the police or any agency ?
The Freeh report was found to be conspiratorial in nature, between the NCAA and Freeh.
It was subsequently overturned after the former Attorney General of the United States conducted an investigation that concluded that the Freeh report was deeply flawed !
Former Attorney General Richard Thornburgh conducted a review of the Freeh report, which concluded that the Freeh report constituted a "rush to injustice" that could not be relied upon and that Freeh's evidence fell "far short" of showing that Joe Paterno attempted to conceal the scandal, but rather that "the contrary is true".
Repeat, “BUT RATHER, THAT THE CONTRARY WAS TRUE”. !
Let thank sink into your moronic brain !
In January 2013, State Senator Jake Corman and state treasurer Rob McCord sued the NCAA, seeking to overturn the Penn State sanctions on the basis that Freeh had been actively collaborating with the NCAA and that DUE PROCESS had not been followed.
In November 2014, Corman released emails showing "regular and substantive" contact between Freeh's investigators and the NCAA, suggesting THAT FREEH’S CONCLUSIONS WERE ORCHESTRATED !
As part of a settlement, the NCAA restored the 111 wins to Paterno's record on January 16, 2015.
According to the former Attorney General of the United States, Paterno did NOT attempt to cover up the scandal, BUT RATHER, THAT THE CONTRARY WAS TRUE”. !
And the subsequent lawsuit results confirms that conclusion !
You are 100% wrong. You can contact, talk to, or file a report to the police about ANYTHING. They can then decide to refer it to further police involvement or detectives.
And if you knew Paterno, he would follow a student on campus that ran a stop sign; or talk to a professor about his players; or talk to the mayor about his opinion on traffic flow; and would run down a ref on the field after the game…..if he thought it would help.
But he couldn’t go beyond reporting to his superior, an allegation about a witnessed assault on a 10 year old (not an adult in one of your whataboutisms), that was confirmed to be reported by an obviously distressed asst coach he knew for 10 years?
Stop with the excuses
So you aren’t the kind of man that would risk any negative pushback for sharing with the police what you were told about a defenseless child? Figures..
Joe would have been reporting not accusing, a big difference
No, no, no, don’t try to pre-qualify and predispose your statement by implying that the allegation had actually occurred. At the time it was relayed to JP it was nothing more than third party hearsay.
At that point in time there was no evidence that the incident had taken place or that it had been corroborated.
How would YOU have investigated it ?
Please provide detailed specificity.
You’re all talk and no brains.
So let’s say you go public with the allegation and you contact the police and government agencies, and the allegation turns out to be false. Now you’ve ruined a man’s life, his reputation, his family and his career.
And now you get sued for everything you own AND you run up enormous legal fees.
What then big shot ?
Stop using the argument about vacated wins as a justification for saying Joe was not responsible. The restoring of vacated games does nothing to change the fact that Joe knew of it and did nothing beyond reporting to Curley. Joe was first told about this possibility in the 80’s. Do more reading
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