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Baldomer

Here Come The Irish
Apr 21, 2015
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is nothing that has occurred with ND's defense the past two seasons that would indicate improvement is on the way. In fact, just the opposite.

Why you may ask?.

The answer is Bryan Van Gorder. He has yet to put the D in a position to even rush the passer consistently without exotic blitzes, with one of his special packages blitzing Joe Schmidt 2X as frequently as all world LB Jaylon Smith.

Only a moron would do that. Oh, I forgot one, putting D-linemen in pass coverage. That really fooled the opposition.

The returning D-linemen for ND are inexperienced, coming off injury or struggled last year. There is no dominant force on the D-line. Lots of numbers yes and even more question marks.

Jones coming off of injury; Tillery's lack of focus; Cage improving; Trumbetti bad at stopping the run; Bonner, who knows; Rochell only consistent performer who needs allies; then a bunch of guys who have never played in an actual game. This doesn't equal success, much less an abundance of talent. Lots of 3 stars after Jones, Tillery, Rochell and Trumbetti, with Jones and Tillery big ? marks, due to injury and focus respectively.

This will be a matter of Gilmour being able to develop some talented and mediocre linemen who then must overcome BVG's moronic scheme. I'm not sure that Gilmour can overcome the moron. boss.

ND will know by the end of week three or four if the D has improved.

This will be BVG's last year, so I guess the D won't improve enuf to make a material difference.
 
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agree about BVG but getting Jones back is big and I think our secondary will be better this year

we shall see... we lost a lot of good players
 
is nothing that has occurred with ND's defense the past two seasons that would indicate improvement is on the way. In fact, just the opposite.

Why you may ask?.

The answer is Bryan Van Gorder. He has yet to put the D in a position to even rush the passer consistently without exotic blitzes, with one of his special packages blitzing Joe Schmidt 2X as frequently as all world LB Jaylon Smith.

Only a moron would do that. Oh, I forgot one, putting D-linemen in pass coverage. That really fooled the opposition.

The returning D-linemen for ND are inexperienced, coming off injury or struggled last year. There is no dominant force on the D-line. Lots of numbers yes and even more question marks.

Jones coming off of injury; Tillery's lack of focus; Cage improving; Trumbetti bad at stopping the run; Bonner, who knows; Rochell only consistent performer who needs allies; then a bunch of guys who have never played in an actual game. This doesn't equal success, much less an abundance of talent. Lots of 3 stars after Jones, Tillery, Rochell and Trumbetti, with Jones and Tillery big ? marks, due to injury and focus respectively.

This will be a matter of Gilmour being able to develop some talented and mediocre linemen who then must overcome BVG's moronic scheme. I'm not sure that Gilmour can overcome the moron. boss.

ND will know by the end of week three or four if the D has improved.

This will be BVG's last year, so I guess the D won't improve enuf to make a material difference.
Lots of good points.
Glad to see not all posters here are clueless enablers....just the vast majority.
 
is nothing that has occurred with ND's defense the past two seasons that would indicate improvement is on the way. In fact, just the opposite.

Why you may ask?.

The answer is Bryan Van Gorder. He has yet to put the D in a position to even rush the passer consistently without exotic blitzes, with one of his special packages blitzing Joe Schmidt 2X as frequently as all world LB Jaylon Smith.

Only a moron would do that. Oh, I forgot one, putting D-linemen in pass coverage. That really fooled the opposition.

The returning D-linemen for ND are inexperienced, coming off injury or struggled last year. There is no dominant force on the D-line. Lots of numbers yes and even more question marks.

Jones coming off of injury; Tillery's lack of focus; Cage improving; Trumbetti bad at stopping the run; Bonner, who knows; Rochell only consistent performer who needs allies; then a bunch of guys who have never played in an actual game. This doesn't equal success, much less an abundance of talent. Lots of 3 stars after Jones, Tillery, Rochell and Trumbetti, with Jones and Tillery big ? marks, due to injury and focus respectively.

This will be a matter of Gilmour being able to develop some talented and mediocre linemen who then must overcome BVG's moronic scheme. I'm not sure that Gilmour can overcome the moron. boss.

ND will know by the end of week three or four if the D has improved.

This will be BVG's last year, so I guess the D won't improve enuf to make a material difference.


maybe BVG could not spell Smith, so he blitzed Schmidt instead (just Joe!)
 
Lots of good points.
Glad to see not all posters here are clueless enablers....just the vast majority.


the stated points the are 'worst fears' possibilities.
There is ample reason coupled with results to at least understand where the poster is coming from.

Additionally, that he BVG, does not seem to resonate with recruiting prospects compounds the fears.
BVG needs more talent; but he so far seems the problem in attracting that talent.
A conundrum!
 
is nothing that has occurred with ND's defense the past two seasons that would indicate improvement is on the way. In fact, just the opposite.

Why you may ask?.

The answer is Bryan Van Gorder. He has yet to put the D in a position to even rush the passer consistently without exotic blitzes, with one of his special packages blitzing Joe Schmidt 2X as frequently as all world LB Jaylon Smith.

Only a moron would do that. Oh, I forgot one, putting D-linemen in pass coverage. That really fooled the opposition.

The returning D-linemen for ND are inexperienced, coming off injury or struggled last year. There is no dominant force on the D-line. Lots of numbers yes and even more question marks.

Jones coming off of injury; Tillery's lack of focus; Cage improving; Trumbetti bad at stopping the run; Bonner, who knows; Rochell only consistent performer who needs allies; then a bunch of guys who have never played in an actual game. This doesn't equal success, much less an abundance of talent. Lots of 3 stars after Jones, Tillery, Rochell and Trumbetti, with Jones and Tillery big ? marks, due to injury and focus respectively.

This will be a matter of Gilmour being able to develop some talented and mediocre linemen who then must overcome BVG's moronic scheme. I'm not sure that Gilmour can overcome the moron. boss.

ND will know by the end of week three or four if the D has improved.

This will be BVG's last year, so I guess the D won't improve enuf to make a material difference.

Some of this is fair, but some is not.

For example, we have a lot of experience on the DL (5 players with multiple previous starts) and lots of physical talent (1 former 5* and 8 former 4*'s)

Additionally, the style of the players in 2016 match the scheme/style run by Van Gorder better than they did in 2015.
For example, while Day was a great player, Van Gorder doesn't really ask his 3-Tech to shoot gaps very often (Day's strength) while he does ask them to dominate the LOS, stuff the run, and collapse the pocket (Tillery's strength)
The difference between Morgan and Schmidt at MLB may be the most obvious and significant example of this.

Given the returning talent and the match to the scheme, there are definitely reasons to believe that the defense could continue to improve under Van Gorder
(it was better in Van Gorder's 2nd Year than in his 1st Year)
 
is nothing that has occurred with ND's defense the past two seasons that would indicate improvement is on the way. In fact, just the opposite.

Why you may ask?.

The answer is Bryan Van Gorder. He has yet to put the D in a position to even rush the passer consistently without exotic blitzes, with one of his special packages blitzing Joe Schmidt 2X as frequently as all world LB Jaylon Smith.

Only a moron would do that. Oh, I forgot one, putting D-linemen in pass coverage. That really fooled the opposition.

The returning D-linemen for ND are inexperienced, coming off injury or struggled last year. There is no dominant force on the D-line. Lots of numbers yes and even more question marks.

Jones coming off of injury; Tillery's lack of focus; Cage improving; Trumbetti bad at stopping the run; Bonner, who knows; Rochell only consistent performer who needs allies; then a bunch of guys who have never played in an actual game. This doesn't equal success, much less an abundance of talent. Lots of 3 stars after Jones, Tillery, Rochell and Trumbetti, with Jones and Tillery big ? marks, due to injury and focus respectively.

This will be a matter of Gilmour being able to develop some talented and mediocre linemen who then must overcome BVG's moronic scheme. I'm not sure that Gilmour can overcome the moron. boss.

ND will know by the end of week three or four if the D has improved.

This will be BVG's last year, so I guess the D won't improve enuf to make a material difference.
yes, because no defense anywhere ever drops a d lineman in coverage. ( eye roll). talk about your low hanging fruit.
 
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