I wish we would have had the foresight to get Harbaugh

[ivan brunetti]

The notion that Harbaugh was "pushed out at Stanford" is retarded. It is true that the 49er brass forced him out. Thank goodness, because looking at this season's results it is clear Harbaugh was holding San Francisco back.

Harbaugh ~ Michigan is like Lou Holtz ~ ND. He bleeds Michigan football and he isn't going anywhere.

 

[Pazuzu]

Johnny

How many teams in the top 15 are playing with their back up TE, DT , QB . Nickel Back + RB ?

And if not for horrific weather conditions that team would be ranked # 5 in the country maybe #4 ?

If that is not a positive indictment on the status of the ND football program then nothing is .

Also re LSU game last yr check out how they are doing - not a bad win .

I forgot, Clemson did not have to play in those conditions, just ND.LOL.

 

[cgvr]

have you actually compared their college resumes ? Kelly has ONE losing season in 26 years. harbaugh has more in a quarter of that time. Kelly has a lower division national championship, multiple conference championships. conference coach of the year multiple times. National Coach of the Year TWICE. Harbaugh who I personally think is an excellent coach has achieved none of those in his tenure as a college coach. I'm talking college resumes. nfl doesn't pertain.

Would you care to backtrack the major/BCS bowl wins into your 26 years analysis?
Harbaugh did it in 4. Kelly has none in over "26 years".....

Also, Harbaugh won the Woody Hayes College Coach of the year in 2010.
(Lou Holtz won it twice 1977 Arkansas & 1988 ND)

Plus, would you care to share the powerhouse teams that kelly beat in his only undefeated season?
Here is a link to kelly's undefeated 2002 season. Please tell me which win(s) impress you....

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/active/g/grand_valley_state/2000-2004_yearly_results.php

Parsing out Harbaugh's unparalleled success at the highest level of the game makes your comparisons inaccurate/suspect/incomplete. That's called stacking the deck. (PS The Grand Valley State stuff is a yawn).

Harbaugh also established the record for winning versus the highest spread with USC being the favorite by 41 points, it was statistically the greatest upset in college football history.

He inherited a 1-11 team and got them to # 4 in 4 years and won the Orange Bowl.

Harbaugh then became the only coach in NFL history to advance to the NFC title game in each of his first three seasons.....

Also, his QB playing career at both levels was stellar....

Right now he is building the "meat-grinder" I defined.

He uses some "unorthodox" approaches to conditioning among other things. One example is a timed team scavenger hunt through local woods...5+ miles. His teams will always be in as good or better condition than those he faces. His fundamentally sound brand/style of football is exactly what ND once was.....

um has an identity now. ND does not....

It took Harbaugh less than 6 games. We're in year 6....

Please compare there playing experience at the college and professional level. It's a joke.....

Harbaugh's personal and professional football backgrounds and accomplishments dwarf kelly's......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Harbaugh

 

[cgvr]

The notion that Harbaugh was "pushed out at Stanford" is retarded. It is true that the 49er brass forced him out. Thank goodness, because looking at this season's results it is clear Harbaugh was holding San Francisco back.

Harbaugh ~ Michigan is like Lou Holtz ~ ND. He bleeds Michigan football and he isn't going anywhere.

You are correct he was not pushed out of Stanford so whoever posted that made it up.

Plus, he was fed up with the 49er brass and had no desire to stay there. He does not suffer fools lightly and if he thinks you are a jackass he will say so..... Things run deep with him and the altercation with coach schwartz is a classic example of years of festering dislike for the man.

Schwartz tried to chase down Harbaugh in that post game hysterical scene because Harbaugh called him "Schwanz".... Harbaugh was right.....

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[no1e]

JH has proved he is a good, even great coach, but he is not as good as Brian Kelly and he could never live within the rules ND makes sure their coaches abide by.

Brian Kelly is a top three CFB coach and guys like cgvr, Pazuzu and Mo1e dumping on him make it even clearer that he must be good because it is certain how little they know about football.

Too funny.

Find one time I have ever dumped on Kelly without lying. It doesn't exist.

You know nothing about college FB. Calling others out over their knowledge is the height of hypocrisy.

 

[cgvr]

Truth be told. Harbaugh was put in a lot better position at Mich than Kelly had at ND. UM had players, Hoke couldn't develop or coach them. BK was left with an empty cupboard, with the exception of a few players, Kelly had to build depth and speed through recruiting. Harbaugh at least had a good base of players already there.

Once again the uninformed post with impunity and without knowledge.

You are either out of your mind or just lying for the hell of it.

Below is the 2012 roster. Please note the 6 All Americans that were seniors or graduate students....

Check out the names of other Juniors and Seniors...plus I believe that there are a ton of weis recruits that still came to ND despite the coaching change....

Also, that team was known for a stifling defense. # 2 scoring D # 80 Scoring O

kelly's offense sputtered at best and Diaco's D carried the season....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Notre_Dame_Fighting_Irish_football_team

 

[cgvr]

Too funny.

Find one time I have ever dumped on Kelly without lying. It doesn't exist.

You know nothing about college FB. Calling others out over their knowledge is the height of hypocrisy.

"JH has proved he is a good, even great coach, but he is not as good as Brian Kelly and he could never live within the rules ND makes sure their coaches abide by."

His attempted swipe at Stanford is CFB's version of "the phantom punch"..... Yeah, nothing going on academically there.....

 

[no1e]

"JH has proved he is a good, even great coach, but he is not as good as Brian Kelly and he could never live within the rules ND makes sure their coaches abide by."

His attempted swipe at Stanford is CFB's version of "the phantom punch"..... Yeah, nothing going on academically there.....

He just babbles to hear himself. No one could possibly be this dumb and be a high school grad.

 

[BigBlue111]

Michigan plays in the b10. The 2 best teams they played are Utah which was a loss and Northwestern which is always an overacheiver Other than Mich state and Ohio State the b10 is garbage

you should do some homework. Seriously. What is ND's toughest game this year? Clemson? Seriously, Clemson? If not Clemson, then Stanford? The same Stanford that NW beat in Week 1 and the same NW that beat ND in South Bend last season. The same NW that is probably the 5th or 6th best team in the B10 (behind OSU, MSU, UM, Iowa)? Michigan's top opponents in 2015 as compared to ND's:

OSU > Clemson
MSU > Stanford
Utah > USC
NW > G'tech or BC or Texas or anyone else

Get a grip, already. Btw, you could rearrange the order and it still wouldn't make a difference. The ACC is a joke and you don't even play the best teams in the ACC, so get over yourself, sit back, and enjoy the ride with Coach KeLLLLLy.

 

[twalsh]

you should do some homework. Seriously. What is ND's toughest game this year? Clemson? Seriously, Clemson? If not Clemson, then Stanford? The same Stanford that NW beat in Week 1 and the same NW that beat ND in South Bend last season. The same NW that is probably the 5th or 6th best team in the B10 (behind OSU, MSU, UM, Iowa)? Michigan's top opponents in 2015 as compared to ND's:

OSU > Clemson
MSU > Stanford
Utah > USC
NW > G'tech or BC or Texas or anyone else

Get a grip, already. Btw, you could rearrange the order and it still wouldn't make a difference. The ACC is a joke and you don't even play the best teams in the ACC, so get over yourself, sit back, and enjoy the ride with Coach KeLLLLLy.

IMHO, based on the first half of the season Clemson would be a slight favorite over any Big 10 team on a neutral field this weekend.

 

[echowaker]

Would you care to backtrack the major/BCS bowl wins into your 26 years analysis?
Harbaugh did it in 4. Kelly has none in over "26 years".....

Also, Harbaugh won the Woody Hayes College Coach of the year in 2010.
(Lou Holtz won it twice 1977 Arkansas & 1988 ND)

Plus, would you care to share the powerhouse teams that kelly beat in his only undefeated season?
Here is a link to kelly's undefeated 2002 season. Please tell me which win(s) impress you....

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/active/g/grand_valley_state/2000-2004_yearly_results.php

Parsing out Harbaugh's unparalleled success at the highest level of the game makes your comparisons inaccurate/suspect/incomplete. That's called stacking the deck. (PS The Grand Valley State stuff is a yawn).

Harbaugh also established the record for winning versus the highest spread with USC being the favorite by 41 points, it was statistically the greatest upset in college football history.

He inherited a 1-11 team and got them to # 4 in 4 years and won the Orange Bowl.

Harbaugh then became the only coach in NFL history to advance to the NFC title game in each of his first three seasons.....

Also, his QB playing career at both levels was stellar....

Right now he is building the "meat-grinder" I defined.

He uses some "unorthodox" approaches to conditioning among other things. One example is a timed team scavenger hunt through local woods...5+ miles. His teams will always be in as good or better condition than those he faces. His fundamentally sound brand/style of football is exactly what ND once was.....

um has an identity now. ND does not....

It took Harbaugh less than 6 games. We're in year 6....

Please compare there playing experience at the college and professional level. It's a joke.....

Harbaugh's personal and professional football backgrounds and accomplishments dwarf kelly's......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Harbaugh

I was simply comparing the two as COLLEGE coaches. Kelly has CLEARLY achieved much more. I deal in FACTS. I don't have to like a person personally to respect their abilities or achievements. you on the other hand....well. haters are gonna hate. I get it. it's obviously personal for you. I find it funny though as Kelly and harbaugh as coaches are very, very much alike in their approach and organizational skills. funny how personal feelings can close ones mind to reality. both are 5-1 with rosters made up of a lot of players who had offers from both schools. I've always claimed harbaugh is a fine coach. just pointing out that to date as a college coach he has a lot of catching up to do to rival kellys achievements.

 

[kellyirish35]

Echo - correct significant personal issues

Powerhouse teams Kelly beat in 2012 ?

Oklahoma
USC
Mich
Mich St

Guy has some issues - hopefully like Sark he gets some help if not for his sake at least for his pet rabbit

 

[SiberianKnightmare]

Call me when Harbaugh is in year 6 of ANY coaching job. That's why you don't hire him if you want long term success.

 

[ivan brunetti]

Call me when Harbaugh is in year 6 of ANY coaching job. That's why you don't hire him if you want long term success.

That could have been said about Urban Meyer when ND wanted him. Meyer hadn't stayed long at Bowling Green or Utah. I guess that means he isn't built for the long haul...

 

[SiberianKnightmare]

That could have been said about Urban Meyer when ND wanted him. Meyer hadn't stayed long at Bowling Green or Utah. I guess that means he isn't built for the long haul...

Leaving Bowling Green and Utah for better jobs is not like leaving Stanford and the 49'ers because people can't stand to work with you. Harbaugh is so batshizz crazy, he wears out relationships quickly.

 

[echowaker]

That could have been said about Urban Meyer when ND wanted him. Meyer hadn't stayed long at Bowling Green or Utah. I guess that means he isn't built for the long haul...

I agree .it's how you build your resume. I think harbaugh stays at Michigan. I don't think he enjoyed his nfl time. too many egos as big or bigger than his. you don't deal with that nearly as much in college and the money is pretty even now.

 

[cgvr]

I was simply comparing the two as COLLEGE coaches. Kelly has CLEARLY achieved much more. I deal in FACTS. I don't have to like a person personally to respect their abilities or achievements. you on the other hand....well. haters are goona hate. I get it. it's obviously personal for you. I find it funny though as Kelly and harbaugh as coaches are very, very much alike in their approach and organizational skills. funny how personal feelings can close ones mind to reality.

Well, what's the biggest win in kelly's college coaching career? Harbaugh's Orange Bowl versus what.....?

Case closed.

Hate is an overused word. There are plenty of folks that attempt to use personalized attacks on this board and inaccurately attribute emotions to others.

kelly is often a vulgar purple faced little gnome. He also is growing Colin Montgomerie type breasts.... That's irrefutable. He's underachieving by ND's historic standards. That's also irrefutable....

Do you really think I am upset, angry, hate filled,.... when I write stuff like that? I assure you that I am regularly laughing as what I write is true and again irrefutable.

I knew you wouldn't deal with, "would you care to share the powerhouse teams that kelly beat in his only undefeated season"?

The fact that you avoided that question seems to mean that you can't substantiate a major portion of kelly's career/resume which renders it useless. Aren't you proud of it? It's a f'ing joke. CW Post? aka CW Roast....

Look at the collection of world beaters.

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/active/g/grand_valley_state/2000-2004_yearly_results.php

Seriously? That's like telling a Wall Street Investment firm that you used to run a lemonade stand as a kid.

In 1991 kelly took over Grand Valley State D II team. Over the next ten years he went 9-3, 8-3, 6-3-2, 8-4, 8-3, 8-3, 9-2, 9-5, 5-5, 7-4….

In 2004 Harbaugh took over San Diego D 1 AA and went 7-4, 11-1, 11-1

kelly’s first 3 years 23-9-2 versus Harbaugh’s first 3 years at San Diego 29-6

Take any 3 of the best seasons out of kelly’s first 10 years and he wouldn’t come close to beating Harbaugh’s first 3. Plus, kelly was in a lower division….

Harbaugh's resume is replete with big game wins at every level.

kelly has yet to win one.....

Harbaugh is superior to kelly in every way at every level....

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but that doesn't mean it's correct....

Orange Bowl win versus.....

 

[cgvr]

Leaving Bowling Green and Utah for better jobs is not like leaving Stanford and the 49'ers because people can't stand to work with you. Harbaugh is so batshizz crazy, he wears out relationships quickly.

Yep, let's make stuff up about Harbaugh now. Please tell me what happened at Stanford. Do tell.....

49ers too.... What happened?

Your implying something is a disgrace.....

Harbaugh marches to his own beat. Yes, he is crazy...like a fox....

He's building a war machine right now. We have a dink and dunk pop gun....

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...rbaugh-san-francisco-49ers-mutually-part-ways

Harbaugh was given the game ball and a Gatorade bath at the end of his team's victory over Arizona on Sunday. It felt like a celebration, but the 49ers knew it was the end.

"I had the time of my life. It's like that song," Harbaugh said with a smile after the game. "I had the time of my life; I really did."

The Niners missed the playoffs in eight consecutive seasons before Harbaugh took the reins in 2011. He instantly turned San Francisco into a perennial contender, leading the team to three straight postseason berths, including a Super Bowl appearance and two other trips to the NFC Championship Game. However, his final season roaming the 49ers' sideline was a disappointment: The team trudged its way to an 8-8 record.

"Jim and I have come to the conclusion that it is in our mutual best interest to move in different directions," owner Jed York said in a statement. "We thank Jim for bringing a tremendous competitive nature and a great passion for the game to the 49ers. He and his staff restored a winning culture that has been the standard for our franchise throughout its history."

The mutual breakup between the San Francisco 49ers and Jim Harbaugh wasn't so mutual after all, at least not according to the team's former coach.

Harbaugh said Friday on "The TK Show," a San Jose Mercury News podcast, that the end of his tenure with the 49ers came at their behest.

"I was told I wouldn't be the coach anymore," Harbaugh said. "And then ... you can call it 'mutual,' I mean, I wasn't going to put the 49ers in the position to have a coach that they didn't want anymore.

"But that's the truth of it. I didn't leave the 49ers. I felt like the 49er hierarchy left me."

"Jim and I have come to the conclusion that it is in our mutual best interest to move in different directions," San Francisco owner Jed York said in the statement. "We thank Jim for bringing a tremendous competitive nature and a great passion for the game to the 49ers. He and his staff restored a winning culture that has been the standard for our franchise throughout its history. Their commitment and hard work resulted in a period of success that should be looked back on proudly by our organization and our fans. We wish Jim and his family all the best."

According to Harbaugh, the final weeks in San Francisco were a bit awkward as rumors swirled that defensive line coach Jim Tomsula would be his eventual replacement.

"I wasn't reading anything that was on the Internet, I was really focused on doing my job, but definitely walk down the halls and people look away or they look at you and you know something's going on," Harbaugh said on the podcast.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...rbaugh-san-francisco-49ers-mutually-part-ways

 

[echowaker]

Well, what's the biggest win in kelly's college coaching career? Harbaugh's Orange Bowl versus what.....?

Case closed.

Hate is an overused word. There are plenty of folks that attempt to use personalized attacks on this board and inaccurately attribute emotions to others.
if you are going to cherry pick a bowl win i'll cherry pick the fact that Kelly won a national championship at a lower level. something harbaugh was unable to do. look at the body of work over their entire college coaching careers. the name calling and now breast references ? are you a grown man ? you're worse than some of my students. some maturity is certainly in order. I guess that's what happens when you don't have the facts to back up your position.
kelly is often a vulgar purple faced little gnome. He also is growing Colin Montgomerie type breasts.... That's irrefutable. He's underachieving by ND's historic standards. That's also irrefutable....

Do you really think I am upset, angry, hate filled,.... when I write stuff like that? I assure you that I am regularly what I write is true and again irrefutable.

I knew you wouldn't deal with, "would you care to share the powerhouse teams that kelly beat in his only undefeated season"?

The fact that you avoided that question seems to mean that you can't substantiate a major portion of kelly's career/resume which renders it useless. Aren't you proud of it? It's a f'ing joke. CW Post? aka CW Roast....

Look at the collection of world beaters.

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/active/g/grand_valley_state/2000-2004_yearly_results.php

Seriously? That's like telling a Wall Street Investment firm that you used to run a lemonade stand as a kid.

In 1991 kelly took over Grand Valley State D II team. Over the next ten years he went 9-3, 8-3, 6-3-2, 8-4, 8-3, 8-3, 9-2, 9-5, 5-5, 7-4….

In 2004 Harbaugh took over San Diego D 1 AA and went 7-4, 11-1, 11-1

kelly’s first 3 years 23-9-2 versus Harbaugh’s first 3 years at San Diego 29-6

Take any 3 of the best seasons out of kelly’s first 10 years and he wouldn’t come close to beating Harbaugh’s first 3. Plus, kelly was in a lower division….

Harbaugh's resume is replete with big game wins at every level.

kelly has yet to win one.....

Harbaugh is superior to kelly in every way at every level....

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but that doesn't mean it's correct....

Orange Bowl win versus.....

 

[cgvr]

I agree .it's how you build your resume. I think harbaugh stays at Michigan. I don't think he enjoyed his nfl time. too many egos as big or bigger than his. you don't deal with that nearly as much in college and the money is pretty even now.

Yeah, 3 NFC conference championship games, a Super Bowl appearance.... & he states he "had the time of his life...." just stop....

Harbaugh was given the game ball and a Gatorade bath at the end of his team's victory over Arizona on Sunday. It felt like a celebration, but the 49ers knew it was the end.

"I had the time of my life. It's like that song," Harbaugh said with a smile after the game. "I had the time of my life; I really did."

 

[echowaker]

Well, what's the biggest win in kelly's college coaching career? Harbaugh's Orange Bowl versus what.....?

Case closed.

Hate is an overused word. There are plenty of folks that attempt to use personalized attacks on this board and inaccurately attribute emotions to others.

kelly is often a vulgar purple faced little gnome. He also is growing Colin Montgomerie type breasts.... That's irrefutable. He's underachieving by ND's historic standards. That's also irrefutable....

Do you really think I am upset, angry, hate filled,.... when I write stuff like that? I assure you that I am regularly what I write is true and again irrefutable.

I knew you wouldn't deal with, "would you care to share the powerhouse teams that kelly beat in his only undefeated season"?

The fact that you avoided that question seems to mean that you can't substantiate a major portion of kelly's career/resume which renders it useless. Aren't you proud of it? It's a f'ing joke. CW Post? aka CW Roast....

Look at the collection of world beaters.

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/active/g/grand_valley_state/2000-2004_yearly_results.php

Seriously? That's like telling a Wall Street Investment firm that you used to run a lemonade stand as a kid.

In 1991 kelly took over Grand Valley State D II team. Over the next ten years he went 9-3, 8-3, 6-3-2, 8-4, 8-3, 8-3, 9-2, 9-5, 5-5, 7-4….

In 2004 Harbaugh took over San Diego D 1 AA and went 7-4, 11-1, 11-1

kelly’s first 3 years 23-9-2 versus Harbaugh’s first 3 years at San Diego 29-6

Take any 3 of the best seasons out of kelly’s first 10 years and he wouldn’t come close to beating Harbaugh’s first 3. Plus, kelly was in a lower division….

Harbaugh's resume is replete with big game wins at every level.

kelly has yet to win one.....

Harbaugh is superior to kelly in every way at every level....

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but that doesn't mean it's correct....

Orange Bowl win versus.....

so you're going to use ONE game as your trump card. I can be silly too. Kelly won a national championship at a lower level. harbaugh ? nah. I see along with the name calling you've lowered yourself to insults based on body type. you always did that with weis too. very mature. you're way worse than some of my students. I guess that's what you do when the facts don't support your position.

 

[echowaker]

Yeah, 3 NFC conference championship games, a Super Bowl appearance.... & he states he "had the time of his life...." just stop....

Harbaugh was given the game ball and a Gatorade bath at the end of his team's victory over Arizona on Sunday. It felt like a celebration, but the 49ers knew it was the end.

"I had the time of my life. It's like that song," Harbaugh said with a smile after the game. "I had the time of my life; I really did."

yep and he still left. yeah, yeah I know he was forced out. didn't hear too many players lamenting his departure. aren't you tired of fellating him yet ?

 

[cgvr]

"if you are going to cherry pick a bowl win i'll cherry pick the fact that Kelly won a national championship at a lower level. something harbaugh was unable to do. look at the body of work over their entire college coaching careers. the name calling and now breast references ? are you a grown man ? you're worse than some of my students. some maturity is certainly in order. I guess that's what happens when you don't have the facts to back up your position."

This is hysterical and sad at the same time. What teams did kelly beat to win his NC? Let's hear them.... Comical.

Why not reference HS state championships too....

As I have accurately stated. It's not name calling if it's true.

Is kelly often vulgar. That would be yes.

Is kelly often purple faced? That would be yes.

Is kelly growing breasts like colin montgomerie's? That would be yes.

Is kelly's "Division crap" NC on par with an Orange Bowl win. hahahaha....

Beating Valdosta State is on par with beating VA Tech in the Orange Bowl.....

You should remove your tin foil hat.... Plus, it took kelly a decade to accomplish it....

Whoopdee darn do....

 

[cgvr]

yep and he still left. yeah, yeah I know he was forced out. didn't hear too many players lamenting his departure. aren't you tired of fellating him yet ?

Nice! Did you hear any SF players blasting him?

I know guys that played for him, love him and are still in contact with him....

Oh btw would you like to discuss the Cinci players reaction to the purple faced gnome's departure?

Now that was grand theater.

It takes a special breed to ditch an undefeated team heading to a BCS game....

So, while there is no evidence of a 49er badmouthing Harbaugh the same can't be said for coach potty mouth.

Harbaugh is a superior coach to kelly in every facet of the game and always will be....

 

[echowaker]

Nice! Did you hear any SF players blasting him?

I know guys that played for him, love him and are still in contact with him....

Oh btw would you like to discuss the Cinci players reaction to the purple faced gnome's departure?

Now that was grand theater.

It takes a special breed to ditch an undefeated team heading to a BCS game....

So, while there is no evidence of a 49er badmouthing Harbaugh the same can't be said for coach potty mouth.

Harbaugh is a superior coach to kelly in every facet of the game and always will be....

nice revisionist history you got going on. Kelly didn't ditch his team. the timing is never good when jobs open up late in the year. cinci didn't want him to coach the game and I've been told nd didn't want him too either. it's how it works. do you swallow or spit ?

 

[cgvr]

nice revisionist history you got going on. Kelly didn't ditch his team. the timing is never good when jobs open up late in the year. cinci didn't want him to coach the game and I've been told nd didn't want him too either. it's how it works. do you swallow or spit ?

It's not surprising that you are as vulgar as the purple one. "birds of a feather...." You do seem to have some expertise in the area though. I'm sure a family member taught you....

It's nice when your former team accurately calls you a liar.

"Brian Kelly takes Notre Dame coaching job, leaves angry Cincinnati team behind"

The team held its annual football banquet at a downtown hotel on Thursday night.

One minute into the meeting, the door opened and Gilyard walked out angry and alone, save his MVP trophy. His teammates soon followed, some with teary eyes. They had a difficult time accepting that Kelly was leaving one of the nation's top teams before its biggest bowl game.

"I don't like it," Gilyard said. "I feel like there's a little lying going on there. I felt he'd known this the whole time. Everybody knows Notre Dame's got the money. I kind of had a gut feeling he was going to stay because he told me he was going to be here."

"We already knew what he was going to say. We weren't giving him a round of applause or anything," tight end Ben Guidugli said. "It's like somebody turned their back on us. We brought this whole thing this far. We've come this far. To have someone walk out now is disappointing."

"The Tuesday before we played Pitt, he was telling us how much he loves it here, how he loves this team, how he loves coaching here and how much his family loves it here," quarterback Tony Pike said.

PS (kelly continued his lying ways at the saturday PC before our game vs 'bama... he denounced the NFL at the presser and was interviewing on Tuesday.....)

Revisionist hahahahah. You aren't as smart as you think you are....

That's very much like the vulgar purple faced gnome....

 

[echowaker]

It's nice when your former team accurately calls you a liar.

"Brian Kelly takes Notre Dame coaching job, leaves angry Cincinnati team behind"

The team held its annual football banquet at a downtown hotel on Thursday night.

One minute into the meeting, the door opened and Gilyard walked out angry and alone, save his MVP trophy. His teammates soon followed, some with teary eyes. They had a difficult time accepting that Kelly was leaving one of the nation's top teams before its biggest bowl game.

"I don't like it," Gilyard said. "I feel like there's a little lying going on there. I felt he'd known this the whole time. Everybody knows Notre Dame's got the money. I kind of had a gut feeling he was going to stay because he told me he was going to be here."

"We already knew what he was going to say. We weren't giving him a round of applause or anything," tight end Ben Guidugli said. "It's like somebody turned their back on us. We brought this whole thing this far. We've come this far. To have someone walk out now is disappointing."

"The Tuesday before we played Pitt, he was telling us how much he loves it here, how he loves this team, how he loves coaching here and how much his family loves it here," quarterback Tony Pike said.

PS (kelly continued his lying ways at the saturday PC before our game vs 'bama... he denounced the NFL at the presser and was interviewing on Tuesday.....)

Revisionist hahahahah. You aren't as smart as you think you are....

That's very much like the vulgar purple faced gnome.... [/QUOTE]
nothing new there. everybody knew that. cinci administration didn't want him coaching the game nor did nd's behind the scenes. you can't serve two masters.no coach is going to tell a player he's leaving until its done. cinci is a stepping stone job. players know that. if you want to call it ditching his team feel free. I got vulgar to stoop down to your level. not pretty is it ? remember that when you post.

 

[cgvr]

It's nice when your former team accurately calls you a liar.

"Brian Kelly takes Notre Dame coaching job, leaves angry Cincinnati team behind"

The team held its annual football banquet at a downtown hotel on Thursday night.

One minute into the meeting, the door opened and Gilyard walked out angry and alone, save his MVP trophy. His teammates soon followed, some with teary eyes. They had a difficult time accepting that Kelly was leaving one of the nation's top teams before its biggest bowl game.

"I don't like it," Gilyard said. "I feel like there's a little lying going on there. I felt he'd known this the whole time. Everybody knows Notre Dame's got the money. I kind of had a gut feeling he was going to stay because he told me he was going to be here."

"We already knew what he was going to say. We weren't giving him a round of applause or anything," tight end Ben Guidugli said. "It's like somebody turned their back on us. We brought this whole thing this far. We've come this far. To have someone walk out now is disappointing."

"The Tuesday before we played Pitt, he was telling us how much he loves it here, how he loves this team, how he loves coaching here and how much his family loves it here," quarterback Tony Pike said.

PS (kelly continued his lying ways at the saturday PC before our game vs 'bama... he denounced the NFL at the presser and was interviewing on Tuesday.....)

Revisionist hahahahah. You aren't as smart as you think you are....

That's very much like the vulgar purple faced gnome....

nothing new there. everybody knew that. cinci administration didn't want him coaching the game nor did nd's behind the scenes. you can't serve two masters.no coach is going to tell a player he's leaving until its done. cinci is a stepping stone job. players know that. if you want to call it ditching his team feel free. I got vulgar to stoop down to your level. not pretty is it ? remember that when you post.[/QUOTE]

Your excuse is pretty funny. Point out anything I've ever written that comes close to your vulgar remarks. You and others on this board are fairly disgusting...harmless, but disgusting... Good for you.

Writing that kelly has "breasts" akin to colin montgomerie's is an accurate observation and hardly "vulgar".

When Mickelson got caught in the rain at Bethpage Black and the fans on the 8th tee were chanting, "nice ti** Phil...." that was interesting and I guess that word may be considered vulgar in that context. Interestingly, Jeff Maggert had to turn away as he was about to explode in laughter....

Now back to the point, I proved that players laid into kelly for his departure...

Gilyard accurately called him a liar.

Apparently you can't find similar examples for any of Harbaugh's job changes....

PS kelly should have signed an NDA with ND and coached the BCS game. It's simple.

"I'll be ND's head coach after my business with Cinci is done... This agreement is not to be disclosed....blah blah blah" Swarbrick/others may not have liked it, but tough sh** on him/them.....

kelly's departure was among the most outrageously crass things I have ever seen a coach do at the major CFB level.....

I can't think of any other coach that has left an undefeated/other team heading into a major BCS game.....

kelly is a lying mercenary and can never be trusted......