Has Prosise announced what he's doing?
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Jaylon is projected as the #1 LB in the class by just about everyone... his only direction is down. I would love for him to come back. Considering what a roll of the dice an NFL career is I think it's completely stupid for kids NOT to get their degree but from a pure financial decision leaving now give's him an extra year in the NFL.
Thought Jaylon is on track to get his degree this Spring. Would love him to decide there is unfinished business and return for a run at a NC, but assume he will turn his sights to the NFL this year. Great talent, and the Stanford game may have been his best.
huh ? how would it be smart for jaylon smith to return ? his nfl stock can't go much higher.
If has his degree then he really needs to go to the NFL. Too much of a risk to get injured.
his degree will always be there for him to achieve. go now .
He'll have his degree and there is no guarantee that his stock will rise. Who knows what happens he could end up 3rd behind Folston and Adams (not saying he will but it's possible), he could get injured, he could not play as well.
Assuming Folston returns 100% healthy, there will be a logjam at RB, and I look for Kelly to get Prosise some touches as a receiver as well as RB. Been a real fan of Adams since the day he committed, and even if he doesn't start, I expect he'll average more touches than any other RB. He looks to be a special talent with good vision and strong leg drive through the hole and a nice extra gear.
Not taking anything away from Folston or Prosise, just think Adams is special; and as a result, I don't think Prosise puts up the numbers next year that he did this year before his injury because he won't be called upon to be such a workhorse. My first reaction to the thread subject was to think of course Prosise should return, but not so sure this isn't his best year to go pro. A fourth round pick this year may be better than his prospects next year, largely because of the emergence of Adams.
Not taking anything away from Folston or Prosise, just think Adams is special; and as a result, I don't think Prosise puts up the numbers next year that he did this year before his injury because he won't be called upon to be such a workhorse. My first reaction to the thread subject was to think of course Prosise should return, but not so sure this isn't his best year to go pro. A fourth round pick this year may be better than his prospects next year, largely because of the emergence of Adams.
Prosise should go. I would love for him to stay but going pro after this year is the best thing for him.
Yea, Adams looks to be very special. It's funny because when Folston went down I was worried but after a few games I thought, "damn, CJ might be better than TF." Then CJ gets hurt and its the same thing.
Either way next year having TF, Adams, Williams and the FR we should be set at RB.
Right now there is an embarrassment of riches at QB, WR, and RB. Can Martin and Stanley be replaced without skipping a beat? If the answer is yes, I will go on record as saying this offense will be a living breathing night terror to every DC across this great nation.
Exactly but Jaylon's always been a breathe of fresh air, right? I'd be surprised but not shocked. His brother was at OSU, remember and he decided to forge his own path. Maybe he does the same thing with this decision? I'd leave the choice up to my son but I'd also make sure he knew what kind of money he was postponing!
certainly a talent like stanley will be missed. you don't just "replace" that kind of skill set as it's very rare. i don't see martin as a loss at all. nowhere near the player his brother was. good leader for sure but an average player. i think the young guys behind him this year have better physical skills. harry will have whoever steps in ready. elmer is the one that frustrates me. so inconsistent but i thought he was cleaner late in the year. three plays in a row he looks like former cowboy great larry allen and then the next couple he looks like larry fine.
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I like Adams A LOT for the future, but there is a reason that Prosise out-touched him every single time both were available....even after Adams started to break out.
He played GREAT against Stanford, but their defense is uncharacteristically questionable this year.
Adams struggle against Wake and Boston College (outside of 1 great run)
It will be interesting to see how everything shakes out at RB next year, if all these guys come back. My best guess is
Folston - RB1 (Starting RB, and the primary RB in short yardage, redzone, and end-of-game situations)
Prosise - RB2-A (Complementary RB, especially on early downs & between the 20's. Also split time as a Slot/RB Hybrid, especially on 3rd Down)
Adams - RB2-B (Complementary RB, will play more of a "pure RB" role, as a significant "handcuff back" to Folston)
Barring injuries, my guess on average touches per game:
Folston - 15-17 Touches (14-16 rushes, 1-2 catches)
Prosise - 12-15 Touches (10-12 rushes, 2-3 catches)
Adams - 8-10 Touches (7-9 rushes, 0-1 catches)
That's assuming they all stay relatively healthy for the entire year
That kind of spread would let us get out best players on the field frequently, get the ball in their hands, and put them in positions that lean towards their strengths.........plus it would keep them all relatively fresh for late-game and late-season scenarios
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Just for fun (because I'm really bored at work today)......taking those numbers and my guesses at what average yards would look like
Guesses on average yards per touch
Folston - 5.5 Yards/Rush , 11.0 Yards/Catch
Prosise - 8.0 Yards/Rush , 15.0 Yards/Catch
Adams - 7.5 yards/Rush , 8 Yards/Catch
Guesses on Season Totals
Folston - 1,300 Total Yards (1,100 Rushing, 200 Receiving)
Prosise - 1,500 Total Yards (1,000 Rushing, 500 Receiving)
Adams - 850 Total Yards (800 Rushing, 50 Receiving)
~3,500 total yards from the RB position on ~500 touches (~7.0 Yards/Play).............that would be pretty amazing!!
Guesses on average yards per touch
Folston - 5.5 Yards/Rush , 11.0 Yards/Catch
Prosise - 8.0 Yards/Rush , 15.0 Yards/Catch
Adams - 7.5 yards/Rush , 8 Yards/Catch
Guesses on Season Totals
Folston - 1,300 Total Yards (1,100 Rushing, 200 Receiving)
Prosise - 1,500 Total Yards (1,000 Rushing, 500 Receiving)
Adams - 850 Total Yards (800 Rushing, 50 Receiving)
~3,500 total yards from the RB position on ~500 touches (~7.0 Yards/Play).............that would be pretty amazing!!
I think that is perfectly said... surprised but not shocked. As you point out Jaylon does march to his own tune.
Bodizephax
I've posted how many times?
Josh Adams is a better running back then CJ because he does not dance around. But CJ is a better pass receiver and a damn good RB too.
Remember CJ also got shut down in a couple of games running the ball.
Remember CJ also got shut down in a couple of games running the ball.
Bodizephax
I've posted how many times?
If on the small chance Jaylon does return, the insurance policies are much better than in the past. He will not be broke if he gets injured. The policies now pay quite a bit if he drops down in the draft because of injury. So there is a slight chance he could come back.
Very few Notre Dame NFL players come back to get their degree. I know Jimmy C, did but I was surprised when I found out that seldom do.
But if Jaylon is due to get his degree in the spring anyway that shouldn't be a problem in less that takes away from his combine and NFL training.
Very few Notre Dame NFL players come back to get their degree. I know Jimmy C, did but I was surprised when I found out that seldom do.
But if Jaylon is due to get his degree in the spring anyway that shouldn't be a problem in less that takes away from his combine and NFL training.
The Lord is also happy you did away with that reference to Cecil the sea sick serpent.
I was in South Dining Hall Notre Dame. I saw CJ Prosise there. My friends asked him about stay or leave for NFL. CJ say Wait till after Bowl game. CJ say by next year ND going have top 4 RBS. Hard for CJ to decide leave or stay for 2016. He going to fight for RB starter job in 2016 if he decide to stay.
Lack of carries for one. I say CJ goes pro. Look at Thomas Rawls on the Seahawks. He wasn't even drafted and is trending towards stardom.
Running backs automatically don't get drafted until Rd 2. He'd get drafted well before Rd 4 is over. CJ showed enough to make some quality $. He'd be stupid to stay.
I wish I could believe in this jack. I just don't trust Kelly to lead the way. They'd have to dominate like USC did in 2004 in order to cover up Kelly's moronic decisions in-game.
He doesn't have a ton of carries over the course of his career as it is. Based on where he is being placed in the various draft rankings for his position and looking at the last 5 drafts, RBs in his range (5-10) go from rounds 3-5. Not saying he isn't gone but I don't think its a clean cut decision.
Yes. Today he said he was hiding from lunatics in the south dining hall.
thank you -- its nice to know at least some of the fan base actually cares what is in the best interest of the kid/athlete
So Julian Okwara tweeted this and I thought it was appropriate for this discussion.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVPwHQGWcAAWrkf.jpg
I know some coaches like to play the race card against ND (it's a white school). Show them this and ask them how many D1 schools have an AA grad rate that high and how many actually have a AA grad rate higher than their overall grad rate?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVPwHQGWcAAWrkf.jpg
I know some coaches like to play the race card against ND (it's a white school). Show them this and ask them how many D1 schools have an AA grad rate that high and how many actually have a AA grad rate higher than their overall grad rate?
actually his first deal won't be that much anyway with the new rookie slotting system. agents take on 20 mil is 600k. taxes around half with all local taxes. it's crazy, players pay tax in every municipality they play in.
Well next year Nd is going to be loaded at running back, but he is still the most explosive and versatile on the team. But more importantly there will be more NFL caliber running prospects coming out. If I'm not mistaken Fournette, Chubb, Perine, Hood, MCCaffrey, and the FSU back will all be draft eligible next year. That maybe in his consideration right now.
Most mock drafts have him in the Top10 right now, at least that I've seen
But mock drafts are pretty worthless at this point
That said, I'd expect him to go in the 1st Round....similar to Gordon from last year
