Recruiting rankings in 2023 were LSU - 5, FSU - 26. In 2022, LSU - 15, FSU -20. In 2021, LSU was 4, FSU was 27. In 2020, they were LSU was 4, FSU was 20. In 2019, LSU was 3, FSU was 17.
FSU is not more talented than LSU.
Hard hitting Fighting Kelly’s of LSU
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FSU is not more talented than LSU.
There’s no reason to insult my football acumen. We’re just having a friendly conversation.
I didn’t make any statement about which line is better. I said perhaps better. That’s not a declaration either way.
You correct mistakes in between plays by yelling on the field and/or making a substitution. And I’d say there was one particular issue that carried over one series towards the end of the game/
Aside from in-game coaching, what you see on the field is a direct result of years of preparation. If a position is playing poorly, they’re probably not being coached well.
You said “no” to possibly not being prepared to certain formations…well that’s kind of what football is. Showing different formations and plays off of those formations. It happens pretty much every game. There’s no way to know what the other offense will do for certain.
Do you know what an unbalanced formation is?
A couple of quotes from some of the LSU forums. Welcome to the Brian Kelly era, Get used to it! 😂
"What we saw last night is exactly why ND fans wanted his arse gone. BK is nothing but a smooth-talking bullshiteter that lived off of beating shite teams for decades."
"does declaring you and everyone you hired and coach spent all summer coasting into this game make it better? He gets paid too much money to have spent 3 months fishing and on the golf course not knowing what he had with his team."
"What we saw last night is exactly why ND fans wanted his arse gone. BK is nothing but a smooth-talking bullshiteter that lived off of beating shite teams for decades."
"does declaring you and everyone you hired and coach spent all summer coasting into this game make it better? He gets paid too much money to have spent 3 months fishing and on the golf course not knowing what he had with his team."
So, you ignore the first and goal? How convenient of you.
Sorry, a HS JV coach could get in the end zone with that roster and 4 attempts from the one yard line. Your assertion that it’s player execution and has no reflection on the staff, is arrogant and presumptuous.
And when you have multiple 4th down failures, 2 in the first Q, it is clearly the coaching staff not being able to “set up the call”. You played football, right? Back in the leather helmet days?! You have plays reserved for 4th down for just this situation. You might want to research the NCAA average for 4th and 1 to go
BK should have blitzed more, I already stated such. SO YOU UNDERSTAND, THIS IS AN ADJUSTMENT THAT BK SHOULD HAVE EMPLOYED
Also notice you didn’t address my questions…so start
Idk figure out how to stop Coleman? He caught 2 TD in first half. You are the worst part of this board. You sit on your throne and criticize anyone that has a different opinion than you. You’re trash. The only poster that has to post in bold so you can see what you’re posting. Kelly’s 2nd half adjustments have been awful, same as when he coached at ND. Next you’ll say that our QB didn’t regress every year Kelly was head coach.you love Kelly, love Rees and anyone that has a differing opinion you argue with.
Pat, saw you lurking until 7PM CT! Why didn’t you answer? There were some good posts that responded to you.
We demand your answers to our questions!!!
We demand your answers to our questions!!!
I didn’t ignore anything, the fact is that FSU‘s DLine showed their dominance.
According to you, 4th and 2 is an automatic TD.
That proves how little you know about footbal.
Your specialty is Monday morning quarterbacking
Averages are meaningless, specifics are what counts and FSU has a very good DLine.
4th and 1 or 4th and 2 are essentially OLine vs DLine and FSU’s DLine was better than LSU’s OLine.
That’s it, according to you Kelly’s only halftime adjustment should have been to blitz more.
Didn’t FSU only throw the ball 12 times in the second half ?
Many, if not most competent football minds would have made some offensive adjustments but I guess you didn’t see any need to change anything on offense.
Recruiting rankings are subjective,
Kelly only has two years of recruiting at LSU
I apologize, I will try to be more friendly.
Do you really believe that the coach analyzes every players play on every play and then yells in corrective instructions that can be clearly heard over 60,000 screaming fans ?
Kelly only has one prior year at LSU so why are you citing years of preparation.
I know what unbalanced fans are !
Hanging a 45-24 loss on Kelly is more than a stretch, but by your standard Freeman is clearly, if not solely responsible for ND losing to Oklahoma State, Marshall, Stanford and USC.
I‘m far from a Kelly fan, but you have to be unbiased, consistent and objective when analyzing a game.
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You deflected my question about unbalanced formations. Can I assume that you don’t know what that is? I’m not putting you down. I myself kind of have a hard time defining it.
Its an important question as it pertains to this topic.
Why don’t you tell us how you would have stopped Coleman.
Do you think that LSU‘s players weren’t trying ?
LSU only threw the ball 12 times in the second half.
Coleman caught 5 for 60 yards with 41 coming on one play.
So 4 catches for 19 yards would seem pretty good
Ian Book didn’t regress every year, get your facts right before opening your mouth.
I only criticize moronic or semi-moronic posts, such as yours !
What second half adjustments did Kelly make against FSU
If you knew how to read you would have seen that I’ve been very critical of Kelly dating back to 2012 and I’ve been critical in a number of areas.
You and so many others lack the ability to be objective.
Kelly resurrected ND football and took us to three (3) chances to win the NC in ten years.
How was ND football prior to Kelly.
P.S. Stop whining !
I didn’t deflect your question and no, you can’t assume that I don’t know what they are, I deliberately didn’t answer the question because the answer is in the title/description
It’s an insulting question, “unbalanced” is intended to provide a numerical player advantage over the defense.
Yes but there are different types and that’s a very generic description. “A numerical advantage” can be used to describe pretty much any play.
FSU lined up in the same/similar unbalanced formation numerous times and I don’t believe LSU ever picked up that it was unbalanced. Numerous times they were playing coverage on an ineligible receiver. Perhaps that’s not automatically unsound, but it kind of is when the DB doesn’t know that the player is ineligible. FSU just kept running the same plays out of these looks.
Talk about in-between play coaching? People in the booth should be able to see that and communicate that to the sideline. Even the people on the sideline should see it. The players should be able to pick up on it. That’s terrible formation identification.
LSU linebackers were slow playing when they should have been flowing fast over the top numerous times against these looks.
In the ultimate, FSU’s lines outplayed LSU’s lines.
FSU also dominated TOP by an astounding 11 minutes.
Stop trying to blame Kelly, You and others can nit pick all you want, but FSU’s players outplayed LSU’s players and no amount of coaching would have changed that outcome.
When LSU beat Alabama last year did you say it was all thanks to the players, as Kelly simply watched from the sidelines? Or did you say what a great win by BK?
Seems like you give Kelly the wins but don’t blame him for the losses. It’s like Brian Kelly himself is behind your user name!
If you’re not going to credit him for the L, why would you keep touting the W against Bama? That surely must have been the players?! Weird mindset
I like writing in bold and huge font.
lol, a bunch of pivots in this response. AND NO SOUND ANALYSIS FROM YOU
You ignored the 4th down execution percentage of the rest of the NCAA. Somehow LSU, with all that talent, can’t even meet the average. NOR CONVERT A FIRST AND GOAL. Kidding me? What about the first and one, the second and one, the third and one?? lol
You ignored those first quarter failings, when FSU was being dominated by LSU, and converting those 4th downs would have put LSU up big
Not sure what game you watched but FSU couldn't run the ball, were getting beat up front by LSU, and FSU took three personal fouls. Their best WR Wilson dropped two passes as well that gave LSU possession. But couldn’t convert.
FSU was 11-13 in the second half including 2 TDs, so yes, blitzing (even run blitz) is one of a couple adjustments to disrupt FSU’s offense. But BK didn’t and LSU gave up 31 consecutive points. So justify that.
Have a good day Paqui,
And telling others to cite evidence while providing none of her own
Let’s be real here. Last year’s season was propped up w/ the win against bama. That’s it. It was rather unimpressive other than that. Lost 4 times (getting blown out twice) and should’ve lost at least one or two more. The hype was not rooted in sound evidence. They may turn it around since their next several games are winnable, but I never saw the 5th ranked team in the country in this lsu team. I’ll eat crow if that’s the case at the end of the year.
Just another example of you not knowing a damn thing about football. You can’t even figure out the pylons in the end zone. What a dumbass.
He answered all your stupid questions. You just love to move the goalposts so you can keep arguing. Just stop your foolishness.
I disagree. Cincinnati had half the talent ND had in 20
Now we know what iIrishJohn68 looks like! 😂
I think everyone pretty much agrees about Patty except for him and his boyfriend
FSU built this year on transfers as well. If you aren't including those the rankings are pointless
The answer is simple, all of the know nothings were criticizing Kelly for not being able to beat top teams and then he goes and beats Alabama, a top team, ergo he proved you wrong and deserved credit for the win, as do those who were on the field !
Not true, Last year everyone was bashing Kelly for not being able to beat top teams, and then he goes and beats a top team in Alabama, proving all of you critics wrong.
Ergo, I felt it appropriate to rub it in your faces !
I‘m no fan of Kelly, but I have to give the devil his due. He resurrected football at ND and that’s undeniable !
I didn’t ignore a statistic borne of a compilation of unrelated circumstances.
Funny how you didn’t challenge FSU’s coach for going for it on 4th down.
Each decision is situational.
Early in the game and if you don’t make it the other team has to go 98 yards.
Make it and it can change the game.
I didn’t ignore anything and 6 points wasn’t going to change the outcome, but TD’s and TOP could have.
Why would you blitz in the second half if you were winning and dominating in the first half without blitzing ?
Answer that question !
You know nothing about football other than your 20-20 hindsight.
You don’t know if blitzing would have had any impact on FSU’s passing.
You don’t even know what LSU’s blitz packages are and which ones could have been called.
All you know is how to bitch after the plays are called, you’re a great 20-20 hindsight critic.
Now tell us what Dabo should have done in the second half against Duke.
P.S. With me, every day is a great day ! 👍
Then perhaps you can explain how the back side of the pylon, which sits entirely out of bounds, is deemed inbounds.
Go ahead genius, explain that for us !
Once the Transfer Portal opened up recruiting rankings took a hit.
Only a moron like BGI USER would imply that recruiting is responsible for FSU‘s, Colorado’s and other teams’ success this year is due to recruiting !
